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Just to set the record "straighter"... you have never answered the direct question that I (not Athena) have asked you several times since last summer, before she mentioned anything about people contacting her regarding your status as a working KJ. I won't ask now, because I know you won't answer and that Athena's posts have apparently provided you with a flimsy smokescreen with which to avoid being forthright and factual.




Nah, the pdf's were generated by OpenOffice Writer. That is a free, open-source application. The filenames that were compiled by the free software that you provided were in fact, edited and renamed entirely by Music Book Deluxe. Yes, they are in the game (of songbook creation) as far as I can tell. I can speak to them directly and I receive regular listing updates from them. I never said I was proud to use anyone's software. I am proud of my accomplishment when it comes to using several different pieces of software to produce what I believe to be an incredibly accurate and concise presentation of my song list. You're welcome to a copy, just download and save the pdf from my website or send me $29.95 plus s&h and I'll print/bind/mail you a copy.

BTW: I wouldn't bet against Ditka and ANYBODY. --- I just said I wouldn't bet on Da Bears. Of course, if I could get Ditka on a mountain bike in Colorado, I'd bet against him on my cell phone while riding away.




Be patient. I am in the midst of a site redesign. If you've been on my site lately, you may have noticed the difference in the photo galleries. They are no longer flash galleries so that people may copy and post the photos (with attribution preferable, but not required). When I'm finished you'll see "my pride". Also, may I link to your free software on my site?



No indeed, let's not twist it around. No one is saying that anyone "deserved it". I am saying that the "victim mentality" often skews the perspective when one is not comfortable with reality. There is no inherent threat in saying "I know who you are. I know your name." However, someone who is hiding, or sees themselves as a target may not want someone to know their name. This doesn't automatically make possession of and informing someone of that knowledge a threat, or bullying. Specifically when the communication was private. Thunder's actions are his and are not subject to my justification. The same can be said for Diafel.

Just before I posted this, I saw Birdofsong's last post in reply. Diafel brought up gender. I did not mention borderline personality disorder to "win" an argument. I brought it up to attempt to illustrate that my understanding of the subject applies to transgressors and victims of BOTH sexes. Now that we've cleared that up, what did you have to say about Florida? Perhaps you missed my mention of the guy in "south Florida". His eBay profile said South Palm Beach. This would be a guy who is not calling himself a KJ, doesn't seem to be affiliated with any venue and is still being shut down. Doesn't fit in with your theory does it?

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Big Joe, Mrmarog, Paradigm, and especially KJ Sandman-I have no words to thank you not only for your support, but for how it made me feel. Thank you.


I added "especially" for KJ Sandman, because I am aware that - on this issue- we disagree more often than not. Having the respect of someone in an adversarial position means a lot, and I most certainly return that respect. We often disagree, but KJ Sandman's posts cover legitimate points in an intelligent manner. No flaming, just the points. I'm glad you're here....

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" Disc based and loving it..."

OH BOY THIS TREAD IS WAY OFF TRACK AND GETTING STINKY.......AND PEOPLE THOUGHT IS GOT BAD WHEN THUNDER CAME BACK......DIAFEL YOU EARNED THE TROLL CROWN HANDS DOWN

PS if you really think you are being stalked...or are hiding from legal action for that matter I wouldnt advise internet activity on a public board

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It can also happen to men. I reacted very much the same way before I got help. There are still buttons but I continue to learn how not to have them effect me when pushed.

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You're kidding me, right? Insinuating I'm a pirate? What EVIDENCE do you have?
Now is the time to put up or shut up, Athena. I'm tired of your garbage.
Either PROVE (since you live to prove things) that I'm a pirate or knock it off. Enough is enough.
WHAT ON EARTH would make you think that I am "hiding" from anything , or from anyone, for that matter, much less legal action?
As I've stated previously, I don't use SC any longer and never had much to begin with, anyway.
All of my very limited CB discs are covered by Debi Stovall herself, no less, since I was one of the ones who unwittingly purchased the SCDG's. And no, you are NOT privy to all of the Stovall's dealings, because it was worked out quietly between Debi and myself quite some time ago when this issue was brought to light. I didn't mention it before now, because it was NOBODY'S business, but mine and Debi's, and really, it still isn't.
Now you tell me why, if I'm a pirate, would I bother to go and work things out with Debi in this way? If I was a pirate, I would think I would do quite the opposite, wouldn't you?
Seems to me YOU are the one who is looking to start something with your thinly veiled accusations.
As I said Athena. the time has come to put up or shut up.
I'm looking forward to the latter since you can't PROVE the former.
PS: I'm handing you back your crown. It doesn't fit me at all, and I'm quite sure it's more your size anyway.

Wow now we are getting warnings for prior PRIVATE messages.

Well hold on son, You may want to ban me before I post a bunch of PMs!

since you are asking it,.. yes

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OK GUYS we need some comedy to lighten this tread NOW

Have a good laugh guys before you post again...we dont want bans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAGHkoVj ... re=related

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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
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What did I miss?

How can Athena's post be construed as insinuating piracy?

Diafel, you haven't been contributing to this discussion in over a month.

You return and the first thing you do is go on the attack. Not one single post on topic.

The fact that you are being allowed free reign to accuse, challenge, bait and troll speaks volumes about the moderation of this board.

Why come back and spew? What do you expect to gain from engaging in this behavior?

If you don't have anything constructive to contribute, why did you bother to come back?

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"Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain."
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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

Sandman,
Why are you brow-beating Diafel? It's Thunder's actions that caused this... You aren't privy to all the "behind the scenes" creepiness, stalk-talk and bullying... If you were, I think you'd not jump so quickly to defend Thunder, or Michael Handy... Or "Mick" or whomever he wants to hide behind today.


Apparently, you won't need an answer from me as long as you have Athena on the case do you? Besides, any answer you would receive from me would be suspect and you'd only trust Athena's trustworthy snoop-work as being credible. So, I suggest you tell her to get on with it. I'm sort of interested myself. While she's at it, why not tell her to verify that I've not got any outstanding parking tickets or overdue library books. I'm still waiting and it's been weeks.....


If you knew what Thunder has been doing "behind the scenes" you'd realize that this has a LOT more to do with threatening and bullying than simply knowing a name.

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"Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain."
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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey

Let me help you out a little here.

If that isn't insinuating that I'm a pirate, then please, by all means, explain to me just what it DOES mean.
I'm ever so interested to find out. Just how much spin can be put on that and how much back paddling can be done to try and explain it away WITHOUT saying I'm a pirate will be quite interesting, I'm sure. I'll be waiting... (for a long time, I expect).....
To be clear:
Nowhere have I EVER said I was hiding from anyone or anything, particularly legal action. There is, quite simply, no legal action that can be taken on me since I don't use SC. Period.

Thank you, Chip. Truer words haven't been spoken in a long time.
I would like to know though, why Sandman seems to think that somehow I am to blame for Thunder's attack against me?
Blame the victim? Is that it? Good one!
And yes, I AM a victim in this, but it doesn't mean I will sit back and allow it and that I won't fight back. I'm not what you would like to characterize as a borderline personality disorder (you might want to do a little more research on that one, BTW, you're WAY off on what it means as well as the symptoms of it) and domestic abuse victim (where the hell did you come up with that one, anyway?). FAR from it.
Seems to me that you like to make up a lot of completely unfounded crap about me and others and just run with it. All conjecture with absolutely NO basis in fact. Just where is YOUR credibility headed now?
But go ahead, I won't distract you from your little fantasy any longer. Have fun with that.

Don't you find it ironic that Athena posts "Don't Feed The Trolls" and all the while she is busy trolling....

Apparently the "certified" Florida hosts just don't have enough to do.... which is surprising considering they claim they're getting all kinds of extra work from SC's lawsuits....

Must not be that much extra business in Florida.

Insane isn't it?

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Boy, I'll say.... you guys better knock it off..

Hey Wall, since business is really crackin' in Florida, How's biz in your neck of the woods?

Have you found any increase in business where you are?

I don't know squat about what's been going on behind the scenes, but I will stand squarely behind Diafel's credibility anytime, anywhere- period.

While I'm used to Thunder, I have to admit that I'm surprised as hell at Athena, someone I know to be a normally good hearted person- what am I missing?

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Thanks, Joe. It really means a lot to me.
As for what you're missing, your guess is as good as mine.
I really have no idea where that level of animosity and venom have come from. The only thing I can think of is that we are on opposite sides of the camp, as it were. However, that shouldn't be a reason for making completely unfounded and libelous accusations.

You were the one who said you were a victim of stalking....people who are so afraid of being found are usually afraid of someone finding them or legal action....I dont think you are hiding From SC...Just something on the home front....this is based on a little research and your own words

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"Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain."
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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
Lee McGuffey