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"if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters."
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That still doesn't explain why you would hypothesize what potential techniques could or couldn't fly to cheat. It just seems like a pointless conversation for honest people to have.

Birdofsong

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Birdofsong

Well, you are the one who says it was hypothesized, on the other hand I haven't seen a peep on the boards from those who were involved!

Funny how all that rhetoric suddenly goes silent isn't it? Haven't seen any of the "my attorney is filing a damage claim" or "I will see them in court" and other such nonsense claims, from those who were filed against lately. Makes me wonder why

guess it depends on which side of the fence you are on.
cheerleader side) people trying to figure out the ways it could be cheated to head it off with the manus and keep the thieves accountable.

non cheerleader side) trying to figure out how it can be cheated to show the faults in the manus process.

then again.......depending on which information manus use and follow up on, both sides could get their desired results.

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What a huge troll Thunder...Of course it was hypothesized BY YOU... how many times did you say the word "COULD?"

This is YOU making the hypothesis here.... Birdofsong simply pointed that out.... and you're trying to spin it on her? Give me a break....


Rhetoric from WHO?.... name who suddenly went silent.... Was it LoneAvenger?, Skid Rowe, Jennifer Price?.... who? There has to be rhetoric first in order for it to go silent so where did it come from? (other than you)

However I have seen some "voluntary dismissal WITH prejudice" going on with no explanation...
Hypothesize on that one for a while...

I've seen some talk of price fixing as well and of cheating the audits.... but that of course is coming only from the "certified, legal, legit, vetted and authorized" cheerleaders....

I guess it would help you to look up hypothesis to fully understand what it is!


There is no rhetoric once it goes silent, so those that were putting it forward have ceased the rhetoric.

Personally, I don't think you are very high up on the totem pole for the manus to give you an explaination. And it isn't my place to ask them for you, but there can be any one of many reasons for it.

Every song in my entire library is encrypted on my hard drive and has been from the time I ripped them. The reason for this is so they would be useless if someone stole them from me. So my efforts to keep my library from being pirated are going to cause me to lose by default? That doesn't seem right at all.

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Only if you don't allow access during discovery!

BTW what player are you using that will play encrypted files?

Yeah, I was confused for a second there too... encrypted DURING discovery, meaning after you've been named and not dropped from the lawsuit you encrypted the files to prohibit investigation.

And I have to ask as well... what form of encryption allows a karaoke player to access encrypted files?

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Never the same show twice!

Thanks, don't mind if I do....

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

I think you are missing the point. SC will never go forward ( into court ) with a lawsuit, so the rest is noise, air, and coercion....

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Apparently, you are confused as to it's meaning:



So when you say, "Could it be this" 3 or four times followed by your conjecture, YOU are the one forming a hypothesis.... is this too difficult to comprehend for you? Apparently so.

Who is "those that were?" The question to YOU was "WHO is putting forth this rhetoric that has suddenly gone silent? You can't name a single person because there aren't any. Again you attempt to deflect the original question or ignore it because your statement are (as usual) baseless.

I wasn't addressing or questioning any manufacturer, I was addressing YOU.... but you can't answer any direct questions because you haven't a clue what you are talking about. So the easiest thing for you to do is simply push the responsibility off to someone else.

Man up Thunder and stop playing these little schoolyard games.

Boatloads. There are plenty of TSR's (terminate-and-stay-resident programs) to handle such encryption. The user has no idea that they are running.... encrypting and decrypting data as it is shuffled and streamed through various data busses. They are transparent to your karaoke hosting program. The best are written in assembler. Think of these programs as "software dongles" that do take away some resources to run, but not so much as to be noticable.

These TSR's can also be "locked" to operate only on a single computer (and not by looking at a NIC card ID or processor ID) - and a similar (sort of) scheme was offered to manufacturers (including SC) almost 10 years ago and they refused, opting instead to simply place a data track ahead of the cdg tracks to foil CDRwin and later to use Media Cloq on discs... and we all know where that went and how effective it has been.

who offered it?

any idea why the mfr's opted not to go that route?

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Never the same show twice!

I use DigitalKJ and the built-in ripper encrypts everything automatically while ripping and decrypts it on playback.

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Now you are being a tool..........

I downloaded and spent most of the day trying out the Digital KJ and it's ripper.

You are right it encrypts everything perfectly, so well in fact that those encrypted files play on Siglos, Sax & Dotty, and Karma just as any other un-encrypted file will play on all of them.

Just a question though, with all the available players out today why in the world would you pick Digital KJ to work with?

I tested DigitalKJ thoroghly before going with it. The purpose of encrypting is so the file will be useless on any other computer or any other license of DigitalKJ. I came across the same thing in testing and asked the same thing! Then I found that winamp could only play the encrypted files if the DigitalKJ plug-ins were still loaded and only on the same computer that my DigitalKJ license resides. But If I close DigitalKJ and try another player it wouldn't play the encrypted file because the DigitalKJ plug-in was no longer active (aparently they wrote their own plug-in for winamp to achieve this). That qwerk doesn't bother me though because I just want to know it won't play on any other computer but mine. If you move that file to another computer or uninstall your DigitalKJ you'll find that file will be useless.

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Karma does not use a winamp base but the files still work regardless, and Digital KJ is not running, although it is still loaded!

Make sure you are using the actual file created by DigitalKJ and try it on a different computer.

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I went with DigitalKJ because I was at a show years ago where the KJ was using it and I was impressed by the things he was doing with it. He was doing things with his audience screen I had never seen, a morphing scroll announcing upcoming singers, background visualizations, a dancing scooby doo and more. When I asked him about it he showed me the singer repertoire, the history reporting, the contest manager, and the rotation management. I was floored by it. Some of these features are old-hat these days, but back then I knew of no one that offered anything like it. I had to have it because I knew my show would be like nobody else's. And since then, when a DJ or KJ pops into my show for the first time I usually get the same response from them.

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