Karaoke Forums

Aha! THERE'S my like button!

A very BIG APPLAUSE for diafel.

Hey Thunder you never did answer my post:

[quote="Thunder"]
And now I am through with the pirates and will no longer respond to any of their post on this or any other subject![/quote]

Thunder, is that a promise? And who are the pirates? Just how informed are you?

Mrmarog

PS. Will he respond? It could be very telling.

Hey nice collection! Guess what, I could have taken a picture with 10 times the amount of CDGs you are showing there, when I was in Charlotte for my audit, but they wouldn't all have belonged to me!

Are you willing to bring them in for an audit and have each one marked?

You wouldn't be from the Rockville Maryland or Northern Virginia area would you?

let's give him a chance, don't jump to conclusions.
how many songs do you have there Mrmarog?
it is an impressive collection. i have a little over 13,00 songs with only 4 binders of discs so he may be the one to have that 30 or 40,000 song library and be legit.

_________________
Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Thunder, You aren't very informed! Those pictures were taken in my home, not Charlotte. The 7/31/09 picture was taken with most of the discs in their cases and, the 3/2/11 picture was taken with all the discs removed from their cases except for the Pocket Songs. The storage space was too great in the cases. I still have the empty cases in my attic. If someone wants to see my collection it will have to be on their nickel. Please bring lunch and SPATEN MAXIMATOR beer with you, and oh, cash for my time you used. You can mark them all, as long as you/they will give me, and future owners, a written guarantee that there will "zero" loss in value.

Do you "Mr Hall Pass" have all your discs marked? Why would any one subject themselves to such a process without some sort of compensation or huge benefit? So you can be on a "list"????? Fear is a horrible thing to live with, and I don't have that.

Paradigm, your guess is close enough. Thank you for giving me a chance.

Mrmarog

One last thing......Thunder answered my post. What does that tell you?

First things first, I answered your post because I do not think you are a pirate! If you look around you will see that I am indeed not answering any post by those who I considered to be pirates and pirate supporters, however the rhetoric of anti manu in their fight to reduce/affect a return/eliminate piracy, tends to make me lean in the direction.

All of my disc were already distinctly marked with my own sequencial alpha-numeric labeling system would be real hard add to or take away from it except for adding them on to the end of the sequence.

You misunderstood what I said about Charlotte, what I said was "I" could have had a picture done with 10X the amount of CDGs you have in your picture, but it wouldn't mean they are all mine. You see there are pirates who are trying to get audits done by sharing their collections (which is the purpose of now marking the disc) You certainly have a much larger collection of disc than I have, mine are all in 6 300 disc and 2 200 disc binders around 14,000 well picked non repeated songs, but I have more than enough for my shows.

As for the benefit of having an audit, the biggest benefit is the knowledge that the industry knows you are legal and the future benefits that the public knowledge of that will bring to your business.

And as for the "hall pass" comment you seem to be taking the word of people who were not there as fact, while discounting the word of the people who were actually there, pretty poor judgement on your part!

Chip,
I gotta call you out on this one.
He did not get "booted" for good, he was banned like you and several others but he chose to stay away on his own. He asked to have his account on the other forum deleated. Not trying to pick a fight or start a verbal (keyboard battle). Let's at least get that correct information out since we are all about get to the truth, right.

_________________
No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

Thunder said to Mrmaog: And as for the "hall pass" comment you seem to be taking the word of people who were not there as fact, while discounting the word of the people who were actually there, pretty poor judgement on your part!

Let me start by saying that "fair" has so many meanings that saying "everyone given their get out out a potential lawsuit card has been treated fairly" is a joke. I believe that you (whatever your name is today) have a very rocky past, and probably dodged the the big one. In return you find yourself eternally greatful having done so. My question is: eternally greatful to who? Your quest to fight pirates is so over the top you look like an absolute lunitic.

Passion is a wonderful thing to have in ones life. It gives a person spirit and a purpose to proudly move forward.
Your pirate passion has lost it's lusture here, in this forum, and probably every forum you participate in. I'm certain that someone out there is happy to see you continue with your twisted facts (two brothers in particular), but I am not one of them

Your alpha numeric labelling system that is so unique that even GOD would have no problem with seeing its credibility is what......a sticky label! Come on, is it so permanent that the cd would be damage if removed?

I have a problem with you because your "cause" produces problems for every "legal karaoke host" or non-pirate out there. Simply giving in to an audit erodes my freedom, and privacy, to which I take great offense to, and so should you. That is if you weren't so eternally greatful.

I have shown you mine, to which you accused me of staging a photo (you really have a problem in your head),
now, show me yours, and its "alpha numeric" numbering system. I promise I will be nice (like you).

Mrmarog

In fact, Yes! I damaged two disc trying to removed them, again ask those that were there!

I seems the pots continue to call the kettles black, doesn't it! Here you are "insinuating that I am a pirate and you are continuing to call the audits hall passes, without ever having been through one, I think if you ever do your tune will change.

Apologies in advance for using your text for this, Rum. I just didn't see his original post.


TO THUNDER:


1) I don't understand your surprise or point of view, since Debi herself posted a "thank you" to me for my civility in regard to CB. She understood perfectly that I have no grudge against CB, but wanted questions answered simply because I'm hearing that the music owners/publishers may jump in. If Debi has no issue with my statements and questions, why should you?

2) I could reply that your calling me a liar with your current credibility level is kind of a waste. However, I will ask you two questions instead:

A) When was the last time you were in Northern NJ checking out the venue situation here?

B) Being mfrs. disc based, what other possible business reason would I have for my stance in regard to SC- my ethical reasons aside?

I'm sorry Steve. I think you are a great contributor to the tech forums, and other threads relating to the running of karaoke shows. However, when it comes to SC, you have been continually caught out- as have they. Why do you continue to do so?

I can only speculate to myself as to why you do it. SC isn't in a fight against piracy. Kurt had stated this sometime ago. They are out to make money- supposedly to recoup losses. You know this, whether you admit it or not. SC has become unpopular - even on their own forum! Why do you continue to hitch your wagon to a falling star?

_________________
"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Well let's then state ALL of the facts.
Thunder was Banned on MANY occasions, and I daresay he probably held the record for most bans.
On the last ban, it appears that he had a temper tantrum because of it. That, and I'll put money on it that he was embarrassed about being caught out in his lies regarding the SC meeting. THAT is why he asked to be removed.
I am also willing to bet that he wanted to try and start fresh by hiding behind yet another identity, but the other forum pretty much folded before he could get started over there.
He also knew that a permanent ban was probably forthcoming since he couldn't resist constant trolling, baiting and calling people pirates with no basis in fact.
And THAT, my friends, is what happened.

Diafel, FACTS are not subjective. I certainly understand your disapproval of Thunder and his tactics. What you are presenting here is your negative opinion about the situation. You seem a bit confused about the difference.

Have a nice day.

_________________
Never the same show twice!

Diafel,

I was temporarily banned 3 times on OKJT the last one was for asking a question and putting a smiley face on it, in fact exactly the same question that Joe C asked me (with a smiley face on it), a simple copy and paste, Dan took that post as a personal attack on Joe, I decided at that point and for that reason to terminate my membership at OKJT, nothing more nothing less.

As for putting money on me leaving because of "lies" told about the SC meeting you would lose for two reasons 1. I am not embarrassed and 2. because I told no lies about what went on at that meeting, that is Joe C's pipe dream. Here is the perfect opportunity for him to prove me wrong, and if he does so I will voluntarily leave this forum. Let him get anyone who was at that meeting to post here that his name was not brought up at the SC discussion, all he needs is one and I am gone!

I will tell you there are some who are here that know exactly why it was done and they know exactly why I came to this site under the name Virgin and they all know you are wrong, in your assumptions.

I wasn't aware that OKJT no longer exist, sorry to hear that!

Now do you want to discuss the issues and leave the personal things out of it or not, weren't you the one who said that is all you wanted?

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?
I'm not confused at all.
I meant what I said EXACTLY the way I said it. If you don't like it, then that's your right, but please don't pretend to "fix" my posts. I'm quite happy with them the way they are.


We've all heard this boatload of crap numerous times before, and you didn't leave then, so it's a complete waste of time. You like to try and pull this card out when you think you will win (or at least when you think no one else will remember the truth), but the problem is, you're so mired down in the lies that you can't remember the truth, even when you trip on it. We all know what you are Thunder, as do you. I'm quite sure that we don't need to "prove" it to you, since you already know.

Really?
Well, you should be!
Apparently your mother was lacking in her teaching skills.

To answer your snide question (personal attack), no, I don't have Asperger's Syndrome. I am however, extremely knowledgeable on the subject. I spent 6 summers during my late teens and early twenties as a camp counselor for special needs children (my girlfriend's brother actually was diagnosed with AS) including those who suffer from AS, Autism, ADD and other developmental/cognitive disorders. That was a low blow, even for you.

I never questioned whether you meant what you said. I stated that you have confused FACT for OPINION.

Discerning fact from opinion is often difficult, and for centuries philosophers have been trying to discover what can actually qualify as a fact rather than an opinion. This branch of philosophy is called epistemology, the study of the limits of what human beings can know for fact. Additionally, all of the modern sciences rest on the foundation of discerning fact from opinion and methodically aim to find true knowledge or fact.

Your post implied that you were going to reveal the FACTS, however; you submitted your opinion. It is apparent that you don't know the difference. I've been considering what circumstances would lead one to express themselves in this seemingly contradictory manner and I came across something that you may find helpful:

"As your hormone levels change, your brain function may show signs of faltering. This can be a frustrating and unsettling side effect of the menopausal process, and sometimes it's best to relax and realize it can also be normal." - Kate Bracy Kalb, R.N., M.S., A.R.N.P.

Have a nice day.

_________________
Never the same show twice!

So are you trying to say that Thunder is going through menopause?

Actually, it wasn't a snide question at all. I meant to ask it just the way it is. My question was quite serious.
Your continual picking apart of my posts to point out the correct definitions of things led me to believe that perhaps your insistence on the precision of my posts was a symptom.
Eerily, you just can't bring yourself to let it go, and you seem somehow compelled to post about it, which led me to think perhaps this was another symptom.
What I was trying to understand was why you seem to insist on picking apart and "fixing" my posts. If you had Asperger's it would have explained it. The other options could be obsessive compulsion or perhaps just a desire to stir the pot?
Incidentally, I have a close family member with it, so it wasn't a low blow at all and was not meant as an insult (unlike your post). Again, I was serious. I happen to think there's nothing wrong with having Asperger's, and in fact, it can be a real benefit to some.
Sorry you feel otherwise.