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No, not last time, no "next time", never. Feel free to work for SC and CB free all you want. You apparently have nothing else important enough in your life to do.
But, again, Thanks for coming clean and admitting that you are only really here to troll for Sound Choice, but you better be careful Thunder, we wouldn't want you to hurt yourself on the ski slopes!

At your age -since you stated you can't do physical comedy because you're too old - you need to take it easy.

You know what's funniest about all this?

The biggest cheerleader is an admitted liar, a fake, and a phony at this point. Hiding behind false identities. How do we know that he didn't bring a clean PC to the convention, but has 100's of 1000's of tracks on his machine at home?

You guys crying "audits are the only way to know if someone's honest" surely must see the flaw here. You shirly can't expect me to trust the validity of his words, his intentions, or the authenticity of his audit.

This process is broken. Time to ask the government to intervene.

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Living my life as Robert Cortese, 162 E. Jackson St, San Jose CA.

It's like the difference between high and low budget toilet paper, it really doesn't matter in the end. -exweedfarmer

Which is smarter? Just sticking to making/selling karaoke, while people all over the world create software FOR FREE that helps you sell it, or trying to compete with them and keeping it a closed loop while you blow your money into an industry (software) that you(the karaoke manu) knows nothing about?
-me

Well, C. posted Kurt's statement, so you can say what you will. If you are disputing Kurt, then you are calling him a liar. If you aren't, then you name yourself as one. which is it?

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Name any competition that pops up that might provide an income for SC- whether pirate or not-, and you're good to go. Sad, because I thought you were a better host than that. I wipe out the competition - incliuding pirates- with my skills. Too bad you don't have the confidence to do the same.

No worries though. My understanding is that he's got other folks like you out there. Free pass for names.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Correct. Copy to a second drive, clean out any tracks for which there is no disc, and print a book-done. Worthless audit.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Wow- you're an easy buy......

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Or I could claim to be disc based all the while running on a pirated hard drive.

Or I could be running 6 or 7 systems while claiming to be running only one.

Or I could be claiming to only running a special "jukebox karaoke system" with one set of disc all the while I could actually be running three.

The audit is only worthless to those that fear it and the only ones that fear it are the ones with no disc to back it up. This can be seen all the time with those who have suits filed against them running to purchase thousands of dollars worth of disc after they are filed against, in hopes of getting an audit after the fact. So far in just a few short post on a couple of threads I have been called a pirate multiple times (no matter how veiled) but the truth is I don't have any problem letting anyone look into my hard drive at any show I run.

Joe,

Just for your information the books that I had with me during my audit were almost a year old (I print new books in Janurary) and three update books that are done every three months. I waited until Feburary to print new books this year because of all the "new" additions I added to my system. No one at the audit in Charlotte had any brand new books with them all were at least 3 months old or older. But your supposition has merit it is something that could be done if someone is dishonest enough to think of it! But thank you for trying!

i have 1 registered gun, maybe i have 3 more i keep in the closet and did not register.
there will always be people to skirt the laws, should i assume that, for example, Joe has burned and printed discs he is using in his show? it could happen just as easily. and i am welcome to come see his discs laid out in front of him at any show, but to look deeper than a quick glance, which would not separate a real disc form a burned printed one, i would have to pay for the privalage. that would make using discs not even safe anymore. i do not think that is the case at all, Joe was just the first luddite name that came to mind.
no, there is no way to completely stop dishonest people, that why we still have locks on our doors, but that does not mean that anybody needs to roll over and give up.
following the microsoft line of thought, even they have a tip line and give rewards for turning in pirates, and have stickers that prove the authenticity of the copy of windows.
SC and CB have offered me no reward if i give up any pirates names, that puts Microsoft as a step worse in my book, bribery.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

See you are making assumptions that one of the manus had me "spying for them and have given me a free Ski trip for my effort but as with everything else you come up with you are once again incorrect. The ski trip has nothing to do with karaoke and what I was looking for and found had nothing to do with them either. But I will let you in on a little secret ...... naw it is more fun this way.

sorry, gotta back Joe on this one. you were asked about your commission for snitching and you said you got no commission, just a free ski trip. if you did not mean it to be taken as your payment, you made it sound that way.
thats how i took it as well. means nothing to me, but that seems pretty crappy to play those games. don't we have enough drama at the moment?

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

(standing ovation) Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!

You can make your own logic if you want. My logic is my logic and I really don't care if you see or understand it. I never "sold-out" anything and my "pride" is fully intack, thank you. This discussion is about karaoke and audits.

You have the right to express you own opinion about the audits but keep in mind, and it is only your opinion and stop passing your opinion off as fact especially since I never saw you in the building, huh funny I never even saw you in the parking lot trolling around.

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No venue to big or too small. From your den to the local club or event, we have the music most requested. Great sounding system!

You are correct I was asked about my my commission for snitching and I gave them the answer they wanted to hear (It is called sarcasm!), it isn't about the truth with Joe and Chip it is about the spin that they can put on it, but that is the "GAME" they are playing. No one is being compensated for doing what is right that I am aware of, although there are 1 or 2 here who are hoping to gain monetarily or get a pass on the audit (and still make the certified list) from it, I just don't happen to be one of them. I know for a fact that none of those that were with me at the November audit session even made a suggestion that they be paid for doing what was right in fact many of the suggestions to educating the venues came from those KJs and not from the manus.

Please if you can find anywhere that I said a manu was compensating me in any manner quote it here, as far as I know the only thing I said was, that what I was doing worked out well and I got a free ski trip out of it, I also said it had nothing to do with any karaoke manu. I don't think it is that hard to understand but maybe I am giving too much credit to some.

You went through an audit did Kurt or anyone else suggest to you that they would compensate you for doing what was right? If not why would you believe that he did with anyone else?

sorry, i was taking you at what you said at face value. i was hoping i would not have to read deeper and try to decypher your posts. looking deeper than face value and seeing hidden meanings in posts has started enough arguments here and i did not want to add to the fire. Like Athenas sig, say what you mean, mean what you say, just don't say it mean.

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I wouldn't trust what he says to save face now. He tells so many untruths he forgets where he left off. Remember, he's the one who came here under a false name, with an old picture attempting to trick whoever he could. He is the master of the unverifiable lie. He was booted from OKJT in December - a victim of his own offered up banning schedule but not until after he repeatedly called people "pirates" with no proof whatsoever.

After taking his ball and going home, he simply sprung up here under fake name and rubber nose hoping no one would recognize him while he kept up the uncalled for name calling wherever he could. Remember, he took a hike from the other forum in December:



But that's never enough for Thunder... He really is like the character in the Twilight Zone named Frisbee... spinning one whopper after another so fast they run together and he's an expert in everything he knows or does.



It's amazing how he invents this crap... of course it's a "post from years ago" that even he can't prove, you're simply supposed to "trust his word." Right. Are you trusting Thunder, Steve Miller, Michael Handy or Mick today?

I'm not sure even he knows.

You are right Chip, I must be making it all up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj_ch5WW ... ure=fvwrel

It is not a matter of reading "deeper" into the post it is a matter of reading what the post is in response to. If you understand the lunacy that it is in response to then you understand the concept of the post.

Now, that's the truth! (Did it hurt to type that?)

My poor paranoid friend, my statements regarding worthless audits were not aimed at you. Through all these debates I have never called you a pirate ( though I recall you speaking of 6 systems on Sid's board, but you now have only 2 worth of tracks- now that you bring it up.....) My point was simply that the audits could be manipulated easily.

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."