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I'm trying to find the logic with some peoples posts but just can't seem to find it. Posters have said they are going to delete all of SC music because of their tactics even though they will probably never get visited (I don't think they will come to Canada).

Posters who say they don't have the time to get their discs together because they are scattered all over the place. What kind of company does that? If I can't lay my hands on something that is asked of me within and hour I don't have it anymore and therefore shouldn't have it on my HD. I'll bet if the IRS came knocking (don't know what they call it in Canada) I bet you could produce the paperwork or anything else they wanted very quickly.

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Again, please send all of your unwanted SCs to me. I'm willing to take the risk.

Good thinking.

Chip...
Remember they are not worth as much now.
Would you like to sell some...

You don't THINK? What if they do? I didn't think they would go around suing people withe the sole criteria of having played a song off a computer, but they do!
Besides, It's the principle.

As I stated, my things, including past tax records, should Revenue Canada come looking for them, are IN STORAGE because of renovations and now the pending sale of the house, a house which is much smaller than our previous one.
Well, aren't you lucky to have such a perfect organized life with room for everything in your house!
Some of us have lives, you know, and full lives at that. I have wonderful friends and family that keep me very busy when I'm not working.
I'd much rather spend time with them than go digging around looking for discs I haven't needed in quite some time just to satisfy the likes of someone like you!
Before you judge others on the way they do things, perhaps you should walk a mile in their shoes. You don't know me, you know nothing about me, yet you see fit to judge me and how I live me life? How dare you!

You tell him girl.

Lone Wolf. Bad Man

No. But thanks for asking. I understand that they will sell you some at greatly reduced rates.

Can you make us all a poster that replaces the Sound Choice name with Chartbuster & Pop Hits Monthly (Sing It Now)?

We might as well be prepared not to get caught up in their lawsuit net as they come to town.

That would be a terrific idea and I don't see why anyone would not want to do exactly that..... except for one little teensy problem;

You see, as loyal customers of SC, we're simply "adding value" to their disc collections by removing these from "the street" as it were. (Even those old pesky out-of-print discs that you can't replace with a shiny CDR anyhow.)

This way, there are less of them around and therefore, they should be able to boost their pricing now because of the rarity.... and that will increase their profitability which in turn will allow them to go back into the production business.

AND, think of all those KJ's that are probably just swamped now with all the extra premium-paying business that SC has been able to scare up (pun intended) for them. Why, I know of a KIAA member that has TWO SYSTEMS! And right now, only enough business for one (according to the schedule on their website). Think of all the business they will get when word gets out that they are the only ones in town with SC in their library. They will be booked with 2 systems all seven days a week! (Cha-ching!)

Once these KJ's are swamped with all this high-paying work, they'll just have to go out and BUY MORE SC just to make more and more systems....

It's a gold mine!

It CAN'T LOSE and everybody wins!

Meanwhile, the rest of us will just quietly wither away.... knowing we've done our part to make the world a better place for the KIAA and more profitable for SC and those devoted convenant-signing groupies.....

Now that's got to make you feel are warm and pink inside!

I suppose I could, but first you'll be required to blindly enter into a covenant, stating that I, and every manufacturer you ever purchased any product from, have a right to go nosing around your house and inspect not only their products, but those you purchased from any other manufacturers...just to make sure you are using them as they were intended.

I couldn't possibly understand why you might have any problem whatsoever doing this...after all...you think it's swell and peachy keen to let Sound Choice violate everyone else.


birdofsong

Mr. Beale is rolling in his ficticious grave with his Oscar.....

Wall, AKA InsaneKJ - previously booted from this forum for trolling- My statement, as you KNOW, was from info given on another forum where you troll.

I have posted this statement on that forum, Kurt was there to read it, I questioned him about it- several times. The thing about Kurt is that while he will, on occasion, answer questions or clarify issues, if you corner him, he skips out. Won't answer. He waits for people like you ( a kid playing spy, getting jollies on an internal power trip, talking about how "connected" you are to SC. Remember how you recently posted how you weren't going to tip YOUR hand on SC actions? ) to jump in the mud. You're a tool, or as described in the other forum, nothing but an SC shill.

If he refuses negate the statement ( he can't, because someone might save,print,
file, and use the reply), then it must be true.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Will do, and thank you.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

If you are trying to quote Kurt, then why not copy verbatim whatever it was that he wrote - and do not take anything out of context, either. Instead you are trying to mislead people by writing "it SEEMS that what they do is" and then you misleadingly paraphrase in your twisted slant "They scope out ANY PC based show. If their logo appears on the screen, they call it counterfeit ( due to media shift) and use it as enough evidence of wrong doing to hassle ANY PC based host."

The reality is that I have never seen them post everything they do in an investigation, even though I have been involved with the P.I.s around the Reno/Carson area. (and that certainly makes sense - why tip your hand when it's not necessary?). However I have read where he has stated repeatedly that they do a much more thorough investigation than simply citing someone for playing their tracks from a computer based system.

Also, he has stated many times that over 90% of hosts (by KIAA and Sound Choice estimates) are running some level of counterfeit tracks. If that is the case, they don't need to try to "dupe" KJs into buying their disks legally in the hopes they can entrap them as you seem to be implying when you state that they "specifically" wouldn't press the 1:1 conversion. Why would they want to waste their time doing audits on legal hosts? They have plenty of pirates to go after, even if no one never bought a disc again. Oh, wait, that's what you, and it appears many others, are afraid of, isn't it? Are you really trying to drum up a lot of disagreement over the audits for fear that they will audit you and find you "guilty"?

Already on the forum that Kurt posts on where you gained your so called "info", a number of KJs, myself included, have stated it would be worth going through an audit and being found innocent if it meant that the other 90% were caught. Also a KJ who posts on the same forum, just went through an audit who was named in the Florida lawsuit & has nothing but high regard for SCs efforts. She also wants to join The KIAA. She also just posted that she just bought a new SC disc for a song that she needs for a special event coming up. But you see Joe, you fail to mention any of this.

And you also forgot to mention when you stated "In other words" that you were not really summarizing what Kurt Slep actually wrote (which you conveniently forgot to include here), but your twisted version of what you HOPE people will think they are doing. Also, the 1:1 media shifting "issue" is a stance that the other major manufacturers (Chartbuster and Stellar Records) have also taken, so do you think this is a major conspiracy among the manus to "dupe" all KJs so they can do audits?

I would normally post links to back up these claims but I'm not sure this forum would allow links to another forum. If the mods will allow it, they can PM me....

WOS, you're an idiot. You just fried Joe for not posting direct links. Perhaps he doesn't think it's right to do so either, but you never bothered to give him the benefit of the doubt did you? You're nothing but a hypocritical troll who thinks you have some sort of power in these lawsuits. Why not go find yourself a life instead of trying to egg on the good people here and making wild accusations about them?

Misleading seems to be your forte.... You spent enough time and energy trying to make it appear as though I was some "new illegal digital multi-rigger" did you not?



And how's that working out for you? All the pirates in your area been taken out of the picture? You have 2 systems but only enough jobs for 1... Now that's a huge waste of time, equipment and discs isn't it? You'd think by now you'd have so much work from pirates going underground that you'd be too busy to "be involveld" with anything else. Apparently, you haven't figured out that the pirates in your area will not disappear, they'll just become "Sound Choice Compliant" for much LESS money than you spent on discs and continue with their gigs. You're just helping them get a discount.




Right... Like McLeod's.... or any KJ that is dismissed "with prejudice."



Why are you so gung-ho on the audits? They are an admission of guilt in the first place (I'm sure you agreed to it) and it's ridiculous to believe that any "vendor" has any right to "audit" your use of something you've purchased. Besides, it is my opinion that I can easily prove that with a simple "audit" of my own that you are playing Sound Choice pirated music so you can get off your high horse anytime. However, I'm sure that your buddies at SC would NEVER agree to this type of audit.... They can dish it out, but they can't take it.



Nothing more than cheerleading... Who cares about a single KJ who "bought ONE new SC disc" or "WANTS to join" anything, but apparently has not? It's all fluff...



I don't believe that Joe said anything about "summarizing" anything and when it comes to "twisting" we have to give that top award to you. And you are twisting now when you speak of "audits" as though they are some type of "authoritative entity."



So you'll just get on your soapbox and criticize Joe for not doing what YOU wouldn't do without permission? What a double-standard. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you waiting for some moderator to "allow you" to post links. Kurt Slep is a big boy and he doesn't need you to "protect him." If he wants to post anythiing here he's got an account he can do it himself. No need to get your cheerleading panties in a bunch.

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Well I'm joining the band wagon - I have removed all (which are not many) sound choice karaoke tracks and have printed the poster for my books. I will not use a company who uses the tatics that SC chooses to use no matter who they are going after.

As far as Wall of Sound is concerned - he is a troll here and some other forums that I belong to and needs to be banned for being a troll.

Joe and the rest of you that have voiced your disagreement about what SC is doing- I applaud you!!!!

many people on here are guilty of fear mongering based on hear-say, or things they have read on the internet. Much is just their opinion, and nothing based on actual experience. Many of you are running from somethings that will never cross your path, and probably doesn't even exist.......some people on here, just want to see if they can cause some type of reaction in people......this seems to amuse them........just my take on all this.......

No, that is not "all they are asking to see".
You just don't get it, do you?
What's the problem? Let me explain it once again for you.
As stated previously on other posts in other threads ad naseum, the problem is that they don't want to just see the discs in question. They want you to first sign a paper admitting guilt, allow them to install software on your computer, allow them to check for other manufacturers (which they DON'T have a right to do!), and allow them to walk back in at any time they choose and check again, among other things. And they require you to sign this BEFORE they will look audit your system in order to drop you from the lawsuit. All of this on your time and expense. This is NOT OK with me! It may be with you, but I see MAJOR flaws in both the document they want you to sign and in the way they are going about it.
First, I am NOT OK with sign ANY document admitting guilt to ANYTHING, much less something like this.
Second, I am NOT OK with ANYONE installing software on my computer. Period.
Third, I am NOT OK with them looking for other manufacturers to which they have no legal claim. It's not their right to do so. Let the other manufacturers stake their own claim and do their own "dirty work" if need be. SC has no right to see what else I have in my hard drive. Indeed, unless they take it to court, and get an order from the court, they have no right to see ANYTHING at all in my hard drive!
And lastly, I have a MAJOR problem with signing something that gives away my right to privacy, which is what signing that document will effectively do, because you will be allowing them to waltz in anytime they like and look inside. They won't even need a reason at that point. They can do it because you sign away your right to tell them no.
So no, that is NOT "all they are asking to see". If you can't understand why someone would have problems with this, then you obviously can't see the forest for the tree and would freeze to death for lack of firewood.