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Thanks for all the inputs. I have one more question.

I noticed the cable that comes with the microphone wouldn't plug right into the sound mixer. The connector is different, is there a adapter that I can use to solve this problem?

I probably go with the 58, tired of buying cheap microphones. Just want to get a microphone that would last for many many years. A little extra money definitely worth it.

Discusman,

The SM58 IS a very dependable mic. You should be very pleased with it's sound and longevity. As far as adaptors, you never mentioned which connector your mixer needs, but it really makes no difference. There are adaptors available at almost any GOOD electronics store for just about any combination you may need, or, as lonman said, just go to GC ( Guitar Center ) and get the cable that will plug into your mixer and have the option of a free replacement if "something" goes wrong with the cable. Probably a little more for the "lifetime cables", but worth it in the long run. Again, good luck, and keep us posted on how everything works out regarding your purchase/s.



OH...jd...I had to double check MY mics..they are the PG58's. I believe I paid $36.00 each ( got 3 ) about 5 - 6 years ago. I believe they're closer to $45 - $60 now. Still going stong with no problems at all. ( including a couple of "swing & drop" scenarios ) Hmmm..that $129 for the 3 pack, with free shipping, is tempting

Donny "B"

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I'm not sure what exactly the name of the adapter that my sound mixer needs.

All my other cheap microphones came with the cable with correct plugin head at the end of the cable. They go right into the mixer.

They look alike the guitar cable that go right into a AMP. The big straight pin like head piece.

Do u guys know what am I talking about? if so, what's the name of it?

The guy selling the SM58 on ebay told me the microphone doesn't come with a cable, so I need to tell him what cable/adapter I need for my mixer.

It's a brand new SM58 and doesn't come with a cable, is this sound right?

It is probably less trouble to just buy a cable for the mic, with a 1/4" male connector on it. I have several of them, but I prefer the regular xlr connector.

They make the cables both ways. The correct cable is less bulky than using an adapter

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Would type of cable determines the quality of the sound from the microphone?

My sound mixer has a 1/4" female connector, so it won't take the xlr connector.

No, not really. Not unless it is really bad, or the wrong cable. It is best to buy a good cable, though, as it will last forever. Cheap cables go bad and cause problems, and should not be used unless you sing three times a year or something.


You can find balanced/low-impedance cables like that, but they are nowhere near as easy to find as the XLR. Eventually you might want to get a better mixer, so you should try to find XLR female to 1/4" TRS cables of a high quality. I think I bought one once at Sam Ash, but it was a long time ago. I don't use those any more.

Discusman,

Well, from what you've described, you'll need the cable with the FEMALE XLR on one end ( to plug into the microphone ) and the 1/4" MALE phono jack on the other end. ( to plug into your mixer ) As far as the cable itself, you can go on-line and order a "lifetime" cable from Guitar Center, ( or if there's one nearby just go get it ) with the exact requirements noted above, in any length you'll need, and never have to worry about cables again because replacement is free. OR, you can "shop around" a little more and find a seller who'll supply the SM58 mic AND the EXACT cable you require. You have to look, but they're out there. Seeing this is for home use, granted, you'll want a "good" cable, just don't see the need to go "overboard" price wise regarding "the best available".

Donny "B"

BTW: Actually, I'm sure lonnie can give a more "schooled" answer concerning "cable types" than I.

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You should go on the shure web sight and in the Q & A it will explain about a low z mic (Sm58) going into a hi z (1 /4 inch) input.

A little insider's moneysaving tip: If you go back to Radio Shack and can find an RS-130 mic, it IS a Shure PG48. If you're even luckier, the RS230 IS a Shure PG58. For awhile, Shure private labeled for Radio Shack. These are the exact same mics as Shure puts out under it's own lable at about 60% of the price.

Shure has since discontinued this, but there may be some leftover stock.

Hint#2 Never ask a Radio Shack clerk about ANYTHING technical- they know nothing. Gain the knowledge before you go, and buy intelligently.

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Is PG58 the same as SM58?

No the pg58 isn't the same as a sm58. The shure web sight could maybe clear up some questions for you.

I noticed in an earlier post of yours it sounded like you had a mixer with only high-z (1/4 inch inputs). This may be a problem, the shure mics and all pro vocal mics are low-z (xlr inputs). The shure web sight has a (find an answer) section look for the keyword search box, type in low volume sm58. But none of this matters if you have low impedance (xlr) inputs.

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No it is not. It is not as durable, has a lot more handling noise, and I have never seen one without a switch. For the $30.00-40.00 difference, I wouldn't even consider purchasing one over an SM-58.

Donny I so agree with you...I have seen it so often, people using a question someone asks as an opportunity to spew forth their own equipment list...it's not being helpful in those situations, it is simply an ego trip. "I am", "I have" Once or twice is forgivable but every freakin post is a bit of a yawn

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excuse my digression...my 2c worth...my husband bought 2 x 2nd hand shure sm58s from the NZ Army Band when we first started gigging. They were dented and had no paint left on the handle. They had been worked really really hard in their lifetime with the band cos they travel a lot (3 months of the year spent away) But they have still done us proud for at least 12 years.
SM58 is a forgiving mic...by that I mean it tends to hide small imperfections in a performance. When I tried a sennheiser for the first time it scared the hell outta me cos it was so much clearer and crisper and accentuated every single mistake I made.

if you were interested I could perhaps do a recording and sing one verse with the sm58 and another verse with sennheiser freeport so as you could see the difference...pm me if that would be of benefit

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I'm still in the market for a SM58 meanwhile I was playing with my old radio shack microphone and it has a model number of "33-3044 radio shack microphone".

I think it has a big connection problem, in addition to handling noise, it also disconnects my voice (so it would be like I am singing without a microphone).

I have to using one hand to press the cable to the micophone and hold in order to for it to work properly. Is there a way I can fix this problem? Maybe change the cable/connector?

Also, what's the high z and low z issue? I dont understand, so SM58 wont work with my mixer because my mixer only accepts 1/4" male jack?

Thanks for all the info and advices. This website is awesome.

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Please note that I have written once before and the question is not showing up in my "my stuff / questions" area, so I am rewriting it. If both are recieved, please use this one instead, being that it contains additional information.

I recently purchased a SM58 microphone from AXE Music in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. So far, I have not been able to achieve noticable volume levels when using the mic with my Peavy Mixer amp.

When I was sold this mic, I was assured that I would be able to properly use it straight into the mixer amp, without a mic preamp or transformer. If this is not the case, please let me know.

When I max out ALL the values on the mixer amp, I can barely, but just barely, hear my voice from the monitors/speakers. When I plug one of my old $50 mics into the same input jack, it nearly blows my monitors. I have also tried using different input jacks, and different cables, yet nothing so far has worked past the point described above. Any help on the subject would be GREATLY appreciated. I am very dissapointed, and would like to resolve this problem as soon as possible.

Also, if the problem IS that I need a transformer or preamp, can you please let me know of a microphone in the same price range that will not require a transformer / preamp, or a microphone that is near to the quality of the SM58 and a transformer/preamp that would add up approximately to the same price as the SM58. I'm sure you understand what I am suggesting, basically that I want to fix the problem without altering the quality of sound and changing the price TOO much.

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At 09/21/2001 07:41 AM we wrote - The input on your Peavey likely requires a high impedance microphone. Is the input connector a 1/4" female phone jack? If so, it is very likely a high impedance input.

The SM58 is a low impedance microphone. All professional mics are low impedance.

Placing a low impedance to high impedance transformer at the equipment end of the mic cable is the best solution. The transformer steps up the SM58 signal output to satisfy the high impedance input of the Peavey. Consider the Shure A85F or A95UF transformer.

We do not recommend exchanging the SM58 for a high impedance mic. In general, high impedance mics are of lesser quality than low impedance mics. Keep the SM58 and add a transformer.

This is off the shure web sight I've mentioned to you, I'm not an audio pro but this could apply to you if your mixer is hi-z only.

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This sounds wrong to me. A Peavey mixer is unlikely to require a "Hi-Z" mic. If you gave a model number for that mixer/amp, someone could probably tell you authoritatively.

Three possibilities come to mind.

1) You are trying to hook it to one of the stereo channels, i.e. one that doesn't have a mic preamp.

2) You have the PAD switch engaged on the mono/mic channel you are using.

The above two might be a bit nlikely considering your cheap mic gives a good signal.

3) The third possibility is cable. If you are running a certain type of three-wire cable into a two-wire connector, it could be a problem. I would get another different cable and try that.

The SM58 is not a "hot" mic in general, and you will have to boost the preamp on most mixers. But it should work with any Peavey mixer, given the right cable.

[quote="Discusman @ Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:55 am"]Thanks for all the inputs. I have one more question.

I noticed the cable that comes with the microphone wouldn't plug right into the sound mixer. The connector is different, is there a adapter that I can use to solve this problem?
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This is why I posted the article from the shure web sight, it sounds to me like discusman has a vintage mixer with only hi-z inputs.

The mic cable for a sm58 are male xlr at one end and a female xlr at the other which are low-z.If the xlr dosen't plug into his mixer I'm asuming he has all 1/4inch
hi-z inputs on his mixer.So the problem stated in the article could acure.

I'm not an audio pro and could not say one way or another with authority.

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It sounds very like a cable problem. the shures we bought 2nd hand came with xlr to jack cords that gave us the same problem. the home theatre system I was trying to plug in to practise with (we are talking long before I had my own pa system and was hiring one for the few gigs we got at the beginning)
A musician came one day and said it was due to the cord being either balanced or unbalanced...whichever way it went, (cant recall which it was now) he did a bit of rewiring and bingo we had a beautiful volume level.

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Just a little note that my mixer is

Audio 2000- model: Karaoke Echo & Key Mixer AKM-7017. It has two microphone inputs, both of them accept 1/4" male only.

So now my question would be would it work with SM-58?