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When this happens go grab their arm & point the mic at their mouth!  If they don't get the hint, don't turn their vocals up, turn the music down to compensate.  I'd rather have a lower volume than a possibility of feedback.  Then when they ask why they were turned down so low, then you explain you don't sing into the mic & we have to turn the music down to compensate as your mic volume was turned up as loud as we could before feedback!
Often times they will take the hint.

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! Im really gonna do that ! I'll let you know if Im out of a job next week !! Nah JK ! Actually I could prolly do just that & people would get it so I will try it on a few people & see how they react...

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[shadow=black][scroll]You have to respect your audience. Without them, you're essentially standing alone, singing to yourself....KD Lang[/scroll][/shadow]

I love the SM-58 -- it is my favorite mic. But when I need more gain before feedback, I turn to an Audix OM-3 or Sennheiser 945.

this is exaclty what we do at our shows.  don't grab them forcefully, but act like a stage hand and act like you're trying not to be seen.  i usually make a big joke out of it, too.  sometimes, if the crowd is right and the singer is right i make the comment "hey, hold that thing closed to your mouth.  it only looks like a Pen!s, it's not a real one!"  when done correctly the crowd will ERUPT in laughter.  when done wrong, you may get punched by the boyfriend!

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Kelley
Star Sounds Karaoke & Mobile Recording Studio


[shadow=black][scroll]You have to respect your audience. Without them, you're essentially standing alone, singing to yourself....KD Lang[/scroll][/shadow]

getting those speakers up in the air helps alot. I use sm58s a mackie 808s and EV sx500 speakers. I used to have a regurlar show where I had to put the speaker about 6 feet right and 5 feet behind the singer. i still rarely got feedback.  everything has a limit  I did have to use the turn down music theory sometimes.

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the voices arent real, but they have some good ideas

So we took the FB destroyer back & decided to get a monitior & TRY to get the speakers in front of the singer instead of behind, we'll be trying all this out tonight I'll let you know how it goes BTW the monitor isnt a Hot Spot but simalar..its a Mackie SRM150 http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACSRM150 & from what I have heard (at home anyways) it sounds good ! Hope it helps

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Star Sounds Karaoke & Mobile Recording Studio


[shadow=black][scroll]You have to respect your audience. Without them, you're essentially standing alone, singing to yourself....KD Lang[/scroll][/shadow]

That's the Mackie equivalent.  Just remember with a monitor you are going to be doing 2 individual mixes & you generally do not want to send a ton of effects to the monitor - another feedback cause.

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As a singer, I don't want a *ton* of effects on the monitor, but I want something that makes it less than totally dry.

I have two methods. Either use the minimal "small room" of my mixer on the monitor (setting it's level to 0 for the mains), or route the Lexicon to the monitor at a lower level.

I would like to expand on this 'feedback in a small venue' idea.  My current consitant weekly gig, is a very small bar, even though it was just remodeled and is about 1-1/2 times what it was before that.  I've always had issues here, with bass (low) feedback, no matter how I set up...I have to constantly play with the bass setting to (1) get 'some' thump & (2) fights re-verb feedback.  The only reason I bring this up is because this past weekend at a new 'smaller' bar, 1/2 the size of the other place at best.  I really had to do some creative placement to get my equipment even in there.  I figured I would basically have to not use my subs at all, just have them for looks.  Boy, was I wrong.  I was stunned/still am.  What apparently seems to be the MAJOR part of my issuse at the 1st bar, is the wall make up.  It's all open concrete, the other place has pine wood over top of the walls.  I litterally 'shook' the place and it sounded wonderful!  I knew about sound absorbing and such, but never would've thought that it would be such a huge difference.  What a learning expierence...MrD

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Wood is some of the best walls you can have.  Look at recording studios  ;c)

Concrete & glass will make the best sound engineer WORK for their money.

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I just visited the hottest studio in Nashville, and they have concrete walls. The only thing is that they also cover the concrete with tons (literally) of hard acoustic foam...and one room had thousands of variable-length wood projections as well.