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I suggest:

Mains - QSC HPR152i
Sub - QSCHPR18i

$3200 for the 3 speakers.

Why I suggest these speakers over others. 6 Year Warrenty. I work 6 days a week. That means these speakers would cost $1.71 a day over the warrenty
5 Days a Week would be $2.05. 4 days a beek would be $2.57.

How could you afford to not buy these speakers?

The sound fantastic, are very well priced and have the best warrenty in the industry!

My next setup will be:

2 x Turbosound NuQ-15DP
1 x Turbosound NuQ-B-18DP Just under $10,000 for the 3 speakers

Just a little less Than $6 a day for a completly insanne sound system.

Karaoke Host need to stop being so cheap and put some investment in their equipment. I won't go to karaoke anymore (Not that I have the time) But I dont want to sing on a cheap $40 wired mic, and a pair of Yamaha club 115's or some cheap comparable Peavey 15's

KJs are spending upwards of $30 ea for their CDs and then only $800 on each speaker. The amount of money I have been burying in these CDs would be nullified by running them through muddy speakers. I know quite a few people who skip karaoke bars because the sound sucks. I don't think I would want to be the one who gets skipped.

Nice setup.

Actually Yorkville has the best warranty.  A 2 year unlimited and a 10 year limited.  Within the first two years, run over them, throw them out an airplane and they're covered.

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QSC is 6 year no fault.

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I'm sure your system sounds good and I know how you like to mention how much you spend for your equipment.   I have been to many good Karaoke Shows were I know the sound system was not that expensive.  I believe you should buy quality equipment but come on $10,000 for 3 speakers. It seems a little overkill NO?
I know you say you are working 6 days a week is that all KJ work or DJ ?

The majority of KJ's around  this site do not work that often or make that kind of revenue to justify that investment.   I guess if I was a DJ working  making $600-$1000 per night I could justify the equipment.  BUt as a KJ making $125-$175 per night ....AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN !!!!

Absolutely no reason to spend $10K on speakers alone.  I am all for better equipment for karaoke, proper power behind speakers, good mixers, subs, etc...but the key to any system & a good engineer can make crap sound halfway decent & a decent system sound very good.  KNOW YOUR EQUIPMENT!
You do not have to spend tons to get a very good sound, but there are certain things that should not be skimped on & speakers & amp power are the major fallbacks on most karaoke i've seen - 10"-12" mains, no subs, amps that barely push the continuous speaker capacity.

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What does the price of a cdg have to do with anything?  Almost all karaoke discs ran between 20-30 each when they first came out, Music Maestro discs used to cost $30 per, NuTech discs used to run 25-30 per, Backstage cost $20-25 when they first came out.  Cost don't have anything to do with quality.  There aren't many discs today that cost more than $20, including Sound Choice contrary to popular belief from those that claim they are still the most expensive.
Again, $800 per speaker is pretty darn good for a non-powered cabinet, especially if they are properly powered - which most karaoke clubs don't have & pretty normal for a powered cab.

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Someone making $175 a night 5 days a week over 6 years would have $273,000 over a period of 6 years. $10,000 for very top of the line speakers, seems like a very small investment to me. Even so the QSC system I metioned is less than $2 a show.

Bottom line KJ's need to stop segrating themselves from DJ's. If you buy crap step up to the plate and admit you are cheap and you do not care about quality.

General business model is 25% profit is fantastic. This should be the same for dj's and karaoke, it's not.

QSC HPR152i at 100 pounds each x2
Sub - QSCHPR18i at 127 pounds

Sure I am going to want to load that back into my truck when my gig ends after 2AM!!!

Sounds like the best way to have burnout as a KJ

1 x Turbosound NuQ-B-18DP = Just about 150 pounds.

While it may be nice to have a permenent setup, many KJs are mobile. Even 60 pounds is a lot to move every night for a single component.

When I was going through my gear to set up my gig, I owned a great 23" computer monitor. I thought of using it as a secondary screen for the crowd. However at a bit over 60 pounds it clearly was a not a realistic option to move it every night after the show. I bought a flatscreen instead, even though I owned the other one.

Sure if you own the bar or are doing the same bar 5 nights a week maybe, but otherwise NO.

At those weights for a mobile show the initial price is not the true price. Main cost will be the back surgury.

As for a basic business model, the KJs and DJs are not the same. IT IS DIFFERENT.
A DJ can handle crowds of 500+ and it is the more the better, space permitting.
A great DJ that can fill a 500 capacity club may be worth $1000-2000+ a night including cover. Many clubs are even larger than 500 person capacity.

The optimal KJ gig will only have 60 singers a night and maybe 100 in the whole crowd. The economics are totally different. For a niche karaoke for singers that want to sing multiple songs the crowd size is down to under 30. No way a $10,000 speaker system could ever be paid for by the bar with such crowds. At a reasonable 1 night a week, (few places are karaoke 5 nights a week) it would take over a year to pay for the speakers alone.

If you are a DJ that moonlights Karaoke, and does big DJ shows that require big sound systems, go ahead and use them for Karaoke as well, but to imply that the Karaoke only KJs are "cheap" is wrong.

Disagree.  
The more expensive speakers are not going to get a kj more money & a bar is not going to care whether your speakers cost 8K more than your competition, they are going to look at whether you are going to bring a crowd in or not.  Most karaoke shows anymore don't pay more than 100-125 if you're lucky - at least in this area.  Look at some of the posts, many here don't work more than 3 nights average.  Some are burnt out on that (which is another topic completely but).  I will agree that speakers are important, but a $10K speaker system is ridiculous for a basic karaoke show & it will NOT be a drawing factor for people, a properly powered speaker that costs $400-500 each with a sub will sound good-great in most karaoke situations.  A host that knows how to run a fair rotation, good quality selection & decent sound - which can be achieved for about $5k complete speakers, amps, mixer, mics & still sound great provided they learn the system, again, learn the system.  More often than not hosts don't have a clue how to run sound, they just leave their knobs alone no matter what the singer sounds like & how the disc is recorded & they don't care!

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I went with Cerwin Vega PSX-153.  I like Cerwin Vega (being as that's what I rocked to when I was growing up).  I also like the fact that these speakers are 3 way without a sub they get great bass action.  I do gigs in a relatively small venue and these are more than I need.  I even did a gig in a larger place not to long ago and rocked there too.

The PSX line is out of production, but you can still find a pair around if you look.  There's a place not too far from me that services them.  Cerwin Vega has great service.

I use Behringer's top passive as my backups.

I still like my Yamaha SV115 Club Series speakers . matched with a quality Crown amp........  They do a great job for a reasonable cost.


I suppose you're hauling your equipment in a $60k Cadillac Escalade too?

WELL PUT....... Justa a struggling Newbie with used gear but a few compliments on my show so far.

This thread apparently became a debate on price and quality, and "my gear cost 10 times more than your gear so it must sound 10 times better". I think that it would sound better, but perhaps not, and certainly not 10 times better. I think it should be more about knowing what you need and what it takes to fill your needs. I personally will only mention price when I feel I got a real good deal, I certainly don't brag that I just opened my check book and paid the man because they were the latest greatest critter ever made. I use JBL SP225-6's because thats what I had not because they are bigger than my competitions speakers. They are essentially the same as the SRX series but they are flyable. In any case I got a outrageously good deal, they were from a church in Atlanta, and I had them trucked to Michigan and still paid less than 20 cents on the dollar. Does that make me cheap? No it makes me smart. I never get in a hurry when I'm looking for something, I just do my homework and keep my eyes and ears open.


I've never actually lifted my speakers, I tip them on a hand truck, wheel them out to the mini van, tip them and slide them in. To unload I reverse the procedure. No lifting required, no speaker stands required. So even though my speakers weigh 118 pound each, I actually lift far less than you have to to put your 50 pound speaker on a stand. I also don't have to carry a sub as they will more than shake any club on their own. I wheel in 2 speakers, grab my 1000 watt Yamaha EMX5000, which I also paid far under retail for and is a perfect match for the 4 ohm load the JBL's present. Two speakon's, poof, I'm up and running and I only lifted about 20 lbs.(the weight of the Yamaha). Great sound that didn't cost me an arm and a leg, and can be set up in less than 5 minutes. I got a little long winded but I just had to point out that quality doesn't have to be real expensive if you do your homework and look around. I didn't even know what SP225-6 was until I dug around the JBL site, when I found out that they were the same as the SRX component wise, I grabbed them, and we lived happily ever after .

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