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Was Disco dancing a derivation of jitterbug, which is swing, or rumba dancing?  and what is the lindi hop.. these folks are impressive to watch !!!  I guess Seattle and the West Coast have competitions..  I never knew about this stuff,  I saw stuff like it during the vaudeville period but thought it was just vaudeville show dancing... This jitterbug, camp lindi Hop competition dancing, and rumba dancing swing-style is really amazing ! I called it "ballroom" dancing but thought this was considered free-form jazz dance... Never knew what Jitterbug was, and I still don't know what Lindi Hop means

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Hmmmm, I'm a little surprised Kappy, especially seeing we are close in age. I'll have to assume you don't watch a lot of old movies. Well at least the Lindy Hop was about twenty years before our time. Now I shall go back to listening to Tobacco Road by Rare Earth. By the way, "Time" went exceptionally well last weekend, the club we were playing at is divided into three area's and when I started the intro with the alarm clocks and such people appeared from every opening in the place to see what was going on, we got a standing ovation, kinda makes the 12 hours of sequencing worth it. I hope it works that well this weekend.
http://www.mcn.org/a/lindyhop/history.html

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you started a topic on disco dancing...im sorry kappy, we are gonna have to ask you to turn in your avatar and leave.....we do not tolerate troublemakers here  :no:

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I don't watch old movies correct, and,  I suppose now would be an even more foolish time to admit I was the bassist in the Teddy Wilson trio for 6 months in 1985. I heard the term "jitterbug", but figured it was something boring like "The Twist", or one of those other "fad" dance styles that was goofy... I wasn't aware that this form of dancing was so sophisticated and rooted in duple meter swing and jazz improv..But around here people don't dance to swing, bop, or that type thing, they sit and listen, no dancing to the jazzbands, I never knew what "Jitterbug" was, or meant.. I didn't put a name to the style I thought was ballroom, jazz, or swing.. and in 1976 while watching the Waldorf on TV New Years eve with "The Trammps" I was trying to figure out what the amazing sophisticated a form of couples dancing I noticed was, it was like couples "swing break dancing", friggin AMAZING... this stuff was acrobatics.. But last night after talking to Billy (Ok What Now) about St Louis Swing/blues style that a friend who's a horn player sent me... I was doing keyword searches, and ended up seeing short films of Lindy Hop Competitions.. and Jitterbug..so this was the first time I put a name to this stuff... I'm thinking that A LOT of the duple meter rumba, and shuffle dancing that was so amazing in the 1970's (disco ballroom couples dancing) which I thought was essentially ballroom jazz... has it's roots in Jitterbug..  Does it not ?   How does Swing dancing really differ from Disco partner dancing ?  Isn't it all considered Jazz free form improv if not heavily choreographed (which kills much of the beauty IMHO),  too processed.


Yes, I know Mikey,  Anything with the word Disco in it is often stigmatized but if you saw some of these professional Couples doing back flips, and appearing to spend more time airborn than on the dance floor while keeping meticulous rhythm you'd have a tougher time not envying these athletes, it was basically floor acrobatics choreographed to duple meter shuffle... I Never saw such an amazing dance display as what I was watching at the NY Waldorf Astoria NY even 1976 with couples dancing to "The NIght the Lights Went Out",  "Where the Happy People go", and some of the other Trammps music... btw the trammps were an amazing band !  Rhythmically they were incredible...
Now having a mom that taught ballet, and modern I was turned off to dancing.. My first appreciation of dancing was jazz type acrobatic dancing during the 70's disco era..  (btw, I don't think Donna Summers and Anita Ward when I think Disco), I think more along the lines of the funk-disco transition of Earth Wind and Fire, Trammps, Ohio Players, Funkadelic/parliament (which was actually when "Soul", and funk become something even we white folks enjoyed playing around with) Funkadelics were amazing on stage George clinton wearing diapers, with a big bone in his hair... Bootsey collins with his star rhinestone sunglasses and some of their attire was so goofy how could I not get a kick out've smoking refer, getting xitfaced and watching them with my jaw hung open..  I thought they were martians.

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btw.. Was the song "God gave rock and roll" Kiss or Argent ?

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Kiss

What I was watching was a dancefloor full of pro couples dancing in this style to a much faster tempo of music.. and it WAS impressive but I never knew this was considered jitterbug.. or is this a derivation of jitterbug that's more jazz and modern influenced ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xCjymu8S9w


Can you understand why I always assumed this to be "break" "Disco" dancing ? I never knew this as "Jitterbug".  These moves were done in the 1940's ?

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OK, Well here's my confusion.  I recall having to clone a hammond organ part to that song... and something about Argent, so this is why I'm confused...

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oh ok man, thats different....im still going to have to ask you to leave for calling Bootsy Collins disco....sorry dude, rules are rules "Pull down your socks brotha and let da fungus be among us....."

no i totally see your point steven and its a very interesting observation..and Argent wrote  God Gave Rock And Roll To You and KISS redid it for the Bill and Ted movie..by the way, on a sad note, that was the last video or performance Eric Carr the drummer ever did with KISS and he would die in less than a month from cancer of the heart....i think he was like 30 or somethin....its hard to believe when you see the video that Eric was so weak he could hardly sit on his drum stool...

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Yeah,  Bootsy of the mothuhship representating the E Plurbis Funkified peoples

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Absolutely correct, It was on the "All Together Now" album, thats the one that contained "Hold Your Head Up". I had to dig out the vinyl just to give it another listen. Way more sophisticated version than what Kiss did with it. Along that line has anyone ever listened to the original version of "Ready For Love" as recorded by Mott The Hoople vs the  Bad Company version. Mick Ralphs wrote and released the tune while he was with Mott and released it again after he had formed Bad Company. I personally prefer the less commercial version recorded with Mott.

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I haven't, however that's where I'm headed now.. to dig up the Mott version !

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I believe its on "All The Young Dudes"  Kappy.

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Was it Mick Ralphs or was it Mick Ronson ?

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Argent - God Gave Rock 'n' Roll To You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InH_9fbfma8

It was Mick Ralphs, Ronson only worked with Mott for a little while and spent most of the early seventy's working with Bowie. Ronson in fact was a primary co-writer of most of the tunes on "The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust" with Bowie. Ziggy is one of my all time favorite albums. I particularly like "Five Years". As a matter of fact, I believe I shall listen to it now as I type.

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Thanx for the link, great stuff. Sure was nice back when bands could be themselves.

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Thanks.  I really know very little about the history of Bowies bandmates.  All I recall hearing was something (and I haven't a clue about this) regarding SRV being devastated when Bowie rejected him..  Does he play on "Let's Dance" ?  Or something... Dunno..  I wasn't a huge Bowie fan until I actually heard him sing "Little Drummer Boy" as the duet...,  It's true,  I NEVER liked his signature style of singing..  Too raunchy for my tastes.. The guy was amazingly talented and I didn't enjoy his direction (Not saying he lost much sleep over what I felt) but I enjoyed reading about his island home in Architectural Digest much more than most of his songs.. I liked "Win", always did, but the "Young American" stuff wasn't my cup of tea.. Of course I liked "Space Oddity"  that's about it. I liked his "Prettier" stuff, I don't like his Punk stuff.

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I think it would have been hard for anybody trying to keep up with all the personnel changes Bowie had. Yes SRV did play on the Album"Lets Dance" and possibly "tonight". Then Bowie went back on a deal with him about SRV's band Double Trouble, opening for Bowie so he kinda left. Something about he wasn't going to do the Lindy Hop for anyone . Back in the seventies I'd listen to almost anything that couldn't be found on the radio. It always strikes me kind of funny when I hear that the seventy's was the "Disco Era". It sure wasn't for me. I was listening to Bowie, Mott, Uriah Heep (who I had the opportunity to open for once) Alice Cooper, Moody Blues  and pretty much any of the non commercial types. I just listened to "Lets Dance" just because you mentioned it, and noticed that he is kinda using his "Little Drummer Boy" voice on that cut. Maybe thats why you like it  LOL Anyway, I sent you a little present, one of my favorites off the Ziggy album, I think you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Not to brag,  but I knew that !!!

Yep Uriah Heep, and Wishbone Ash were pretty tough to cover !

Blowing free was a tricky guitar part for a three piece band when I was 17.  The wizard was tricky.

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