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I just wonder how many of the KJ's out there with "30,000+" bought those pre-loaded hard drives from the woman on E-BAY who got busted by the FBI for selling them on EBAY. Then of course one can only wonder what the paper trail and sales records she had for the above mentioned KJ's who purchased from her on EBAY. Those kinds of investigations ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY to its source!

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I HAVE ABOUT 80,000 SONGS AND GOT THEM LEGALLY, i PAY FOR A SERVICE THAT i can download as much as I want and as many songs that I want for a set price.

Which 'service'?  i have yet to hear of any manufacturer allowing their stuff for this kind of service.  All (or at least the couple) of legal sites that do have karaoke downloads are on a pay per download basis only.

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Maybe in other languages, but there is no such site for English language karaoke.

From what I have seen it might be possible for Chinese/Japanese karaoke, but the laws are different.

You may be paying for them legally but I seriously doubt the person selling is doing it legally.

Some sites allow streaming karaoke, but that probably wont work well  in a venue setting. Even so the best streaming karaoke sites have 1/4th that many songs.

Is the vasectomy where you give me an m-80, and then tell me to count to ten....

Do you do the Camel breeding yourself....or do you just ride, the one tied up around back, into town,,,,,,

And is that castration with no brisque(I'm not Jewish so the spelling might be wrong... )....or no bricks....

And the goats?,,,,how do you know when they're comming......

trust me it is in english and it is legal and all of the downloads are in zip form.....honestly.......

Then pray tell us the website.  Are Sound Choice songs available?

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Then chances are, however good the website looks & appears, that it isn't legal.  Again, unless they are overseas manus (or out of business), there isn't any US manu that allows downloads through a service like that.

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If it were real and legal, and the songs were high quality major manufacturers  I know more than a few KJs that would pay $3000 or more for the service. Even for a single month of busy downloading.

More likely though the company could not do it legally though for less than about $10,000 a month because songs cost 1-2$ or more each and many of those who would subscirbe legally would download everything in a month for that cost and then let their membership end. The company would have to pay royalties of about that much a song to keep it legal.

I just dont believe it otherwise.

Is it one of those peer shareing sites that advises "dont name your files with exact artists names or correct song titles....". Or it a website hosted in Iran or North Korea intending to destroy the capitalist economy?

HINT Napster was not legal when it was "free".

Once again many people have the misconception that since you bought something at a store/website, that it is all legit...
Fact is, they may have the right for a service but if you read carefully on any disclaimer, it will have you acknowledge the service is only for private use and that "NO COPYRIGHT LAWS OR INFRINGEMENTS" are to be circumvented.
Yes many people beilieve that they are well in their rights to download or burn copies but in fact it is NOT.
Funny how people don't read the laws fully or that they interpet them to best suit themselves.
I remember when this issue first came up, someone had the hairbrained idea that if you printed something like "BACK UP COPY" or something to that effect, that you were covered, when in fact you're not.
People often ask me why I don't copy cd's or don't go computerized, my one and only answer is:
"even if I'm the only person in this world you believes in morality or ethics, so beit, at least I can say I'm taking the right path".
Most answer back with comments like this:
"well you're in business and your competitors all do it, so why don't you"?
Why?
Cause someone needs to stand up for decency in America.
After all, how can we as Americans, profess to the world that we righteous or morally correct when our own citizens can't do the right thing?
I don't need to display a flag nor sing a patriotic song to profess my participation in what I still believe is a the greatest place to call home, so if they rest don't believe in what I believe thats fine, I just want to set the right example as the entire world looks at us for leadership and morally righteous people...
A little overboard maybe but I know I'm right and my 17 years doing steady karaoke shows proves it..
Respectfully
Rodney

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I believe in having a diverse library. However I ask the following: How many songs can actually get sung in a 4 hour time frame ? 60 - 70 ?  

Therefore , I don't see the need for having over 20,00 songs. If you do regular weekly venues, most of the people sing the same songs every week. Sure, you may get the ocassional out of towner, or maybe even a "regular" requesting some new tune they heard on the radio. (Ultimately, they go back to singing the same old stuff)

There's nothing wrong with updating with some  new material, I just don't see the need for getting everything that comes down the pike.

I don't think anybody denied that a successful show coul be run with around 1-2k songs, the point is bar owner & customer perception that a big book is better than a small.

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I have a pretty good library for an amateur, but there are some gaps, especially in quality. I recently removed some manus from my catalog (Backstage, Nutech, a lot of SGB, Country Karaoke Classics covered by a better manufacturer). But it would be nice if we could maintain a list on this site of essential karaoke songs.

I looked at SoundChoice Foundation, which I own, and I suppose that is pretty good. But there are definite clinkers there. For instance, has anyone (besides me) ever sung George Strait's "You Look So Good In Love"? I bet barely a one of you has seen it used. Yet Foundation doesn't have "I Love Rock 'N Roll", certainly a karaoke standby. (Luckily for me, DK and SuperCore have that one.) So it really doesn't appear to be definitive.

It would be an almost impossible list.  What is truly essential to one show, another show may never hear those songs.  It's like the threads that talk about over done songs, many of the songs listed, I haven't heard for years or never heard yet they get done nightly elsewhere, same with my list, no one else has heard many of our over done songs, but they are done regularly at our show.  Different genres, crowds, bar requirements - some bars won't allow certain songs/genres will determine what is truly an essential disc/song to have.

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Lonnie does MTU keep a record and number of times a song had been sang? I think Compuhost does which is one reason I might buy it.. With Roxbox I could log them nightly but would have to tabulate every week for a running count.

Even on a hard drive a file access counter would give a good idea.

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For DJs that have software that keep track of songs that are performed at their venue, it would be nice to have a link that they can update on their profile that shows the statistics.

Not only will it help us find the missed "essential" songs that no-one has requested, but it would also help us get the feel about what sort of show each person hosts and the tastes of their audience.

No not at this time - there has been talk about it, but never really thought it would be crucial.  I guess I could see the reason for it.  It would take a little extra work, but I could achieve the same thing through Explorer at the end of the night looking at last accessed column & see which files were accessed for that night - if there was a way to easily save the a datalist from Explorer where I just copy the text & past it into a database of some sort for print.  Not sure if there is a way to do this or not.

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You are probably right. But with computers nowadays, it wouldn't be too hard to come up with something for each KJ. If the song has been sung at more than one venue, it probably should go on the list.

I am pretty sure you don't see multiple people doing "455 Rocket" at your place, but it is a staple here in country country.

This is one reason I am switching to Compuhost when I set up my next laptop for karaoke. It has the ability to save song counts, and to save singer's songs for use on subsequent nights.

I am a programmer, and I tried to open up a dialog with MTU about writing Perl tools to work with their stuff. For example, I wrote a tool which allows you to create a spreadsheet from the KMA files, and then edit the titles in the spreadsheet and batch update all of the KMA files. I tried to get them to tell me the format of their .lst files so that I could write a tool to create them based on as web form (for a user-input kiosk), but they didn't respond. Basically, I was offering to write tools to make their stuff better and they were not at all receptive. That is their right, but the lack of progress on their software is clear to me. To a programmer, the way their user interface is all over the map makes it obvious that they don't have a software library they are building on, they just stitch together new pieces of code every time.

The completeness of Compuhost is outstanding compared to Hoster. I like the basic screen in Hoster a lot, and I like their key changer and sound. But Compuhost sounds good too, and it has so much more than Hoster. I believe they will very soon have a web-based kiosk capability, and if I start using their stuff I suspect they might be receptive to working with me to create web-based tools that allow hosts to have singers search and input songs prior to arriving for the show.

I'm still waiting for that website and if they have Sound Choice.

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