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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:48 am 
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Time to do some reading about what's out these days in synths;  Also a great time to see what labor day specials (hopefully free S&H ) online music stores are running for a smaller minimun purchase than usual

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Since I'm a multinstrumentalist and write arrangements this isn't tough, but remembering lyrics to simple songs such as Behind Blue Eyes takes me a month.. I cant recall lyrics, just melodic flow, and complex polyphony.
You and me both then. I use an old ultimate support type A frame keyboard stand on stage, and one of the main reasons for using this type of stand is so I have lots of places to stick lyrics sheets to, you should see this thing, little pieces of left over duct tape everywhere from all the years of sticking things to it. I just don't trust myself when it comes to remembering the lyrics. I'm always telling the light man to make sure I have enough light to see when I'm singing the lead. I'm still working on the Head East tune, went pretty well at practice last night, but i need to be speeding up these old fingers of mine.

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You and me both then. I use an old ultimate support type A frame keyboard stand on stage,


Same here.  Wasn't it great when Ultimate Support had their "Thinker Toys" section, and all sorts of support to build on the A-frame stands ? You could build sky-scrapers, computer stations, you name it..   U.S. is great in-so-far as they really did acknowledge the life-time free replacement policy on the joints, and parts of the A frame stands as I cracked then having to turn the nobs way too tight (OCD).   I have two A frame systems..  One 48 inch two tier (with an added top tier for the korg, and one 60 inch with three tiers (in storage)..  I don't know why they discontinued the A-frame stands,  the Deltex, and few other designs (to my knowledge) are as stable.  I use the black 48 inch A-frame (was it the Apache?) as a home stationary unit and I have my Yamaha CP-25 Piano on the bottom, beneath which I have a JBL sub, Trace Elliot bass cab, and some pedals.. Actually I added a tier because I have my ARP Omni-2 above the CP-25, and the Korg X-3 on top, to get the support for the CP I used the back 48 inch horizontal pipe, a front, and a cut piece of plywood, the arms wouldn't support a piano over 100 lbs... I was hoping U.S. still supplied tubing, 90 degree coupling joints and parts for the A-frame stands because I wanted to build on all sorts of arms and supports LOL get it really gawdy looking. But I can have anodized aluminum pipe cut anywhere to fit the same diameter. The 60 inch A frame which is currently downstair was going to go over the hammond but I have no need to do that..

Glad practice went well.. My fingers are rusty and shot too these days.  While I can pick out parts,  It'd take me longer to apply them by memory. That stuff has to get into the memory banks, and muscle memory, and unfortuneately there are too many bad bits in bad sectors causing the harddrive to drag up in my belfry tower .. Just because I can pick intricate parts out, doesn't mean I can recall more than a measure when it comes time to apply them at a faster speed by memory LMAO, I'd be able to if I seriously sat down and tried playing it to backing, but the memory is shot...

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Time to do some reading about what's out these days in synths;  Also a great time to see what labor day specials (hopefully free S&H ) online music stores are running for a smaller minimun purchase than usual
If you don't need sampling, Yamaha has what they call a MO6 which is packed with lots of good features at a price that isn't to harmful to your health, like layering and such, It comes in handy when you can't find a patch that isn't exactly what your looking for. You can layer them up, split the board, you know all the good things.It even has USB which I use a lot in conjuction with my puter and sonar.
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I was hoping U.S. still supplied tubing, 90 degree coupling joints and parts for the A-frame stands because I wanted to build on all sorts of arms and supports  get it really gawdy looking.
I know what you mean here to, I'm always cruising EBay looking for parts so I can keep adding to my creation, I've even considered buying another stand just to get the connecters. It already sorta looks like the lunar lander now, but with a few more parts hard telling what I can do.

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Just because I can pick intricate parts out, doesn't mean I can recall more than a measure when it comes time to apply them at a faster speed by memory


I just reread this,  and realized while I perpetually love to make myself the butt of self-deprecating humor this was overboard and not quite true.  I do tend to pull a lot of blanks, and choke at times but my memory is actually quite good if I'm not my commonly lazy procrastinating self.

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If you don't need sampling, Yamaha has what they call a MO6 which is packed with lots of good features at a price that isn't to harmful to your health, like layering and such, It comes in handy when you can't find a patch that isn't exactly what your looking for.


I'm basically a cover musician, and nothing more. If it was done in the past and I liked it, I'll likely wish to attempt to recreate it  (by past meaning classic rock genre for the most part) but to be honest besides a Mellotron, or sophisticated analog workstation with onboard recording capabilities for multitracking, I'm not really sure what a sampler is these days, I never made it into the digital realm much, Well the Korg I suppose is digital, but I've still yet to get into computer for music, meaning I've never even done cakewalk.  Can't most MIDI keyboards and a computer do sampling fairly inexpensively ??  I guess I was under the impression that patches like Rhodes, Wurlitizer EP, Yamaha DX-7, ARP sounds, Tone Wheel, BX-3, and even decent analog presets could do "classic rock" keys and synths... Meaning, I guess I don't yet know what I can't do that I'd wish to do that's pre-90's rock on the Korg X, ARP-Omni,  Yamaha CP.... BUT,  I really don't even know what's out there in the way of synths that I'm missing.  I don't consider myself creative,  just a cover technician from pre-mid 1980's.. but I don't even know what I'm missing in the way of these better synths because I haven't been into a keyboard room in over a decade to hear the sounds, I have however heard patches online...  I suppose in my head that's kind've stuck in the classic rock era of music  I figure if it was done before these fancy synths existed, it could be done with what was used in those days, and that's pretty much what I have (or so I thought)... Perhaps I'm not looking at this accurately however...
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I know what you mean here to, I'm always cruising EBay looking for parts so I can keep adding to my creation, I've even considered buying another stand just to get the connecters. It already sorta looks like the lunar lander now, but with a few more parts hard telling what I can do.


Yep, I just LOVE doing this type thing too !  So I suppose I can be creative in certain ways after-all.. Have you seen some of the projects done with the A-frame as the basic unit... and the skyscraper just added on given time ?? :shock:
Heres someone on Ebay selling what's left of the thinker toy principle.  I'm looking for A frame towers to show you in case you haven't already seen some of these Structural engineering feats.  But in the meantime
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-Support-Th ... dZViewItem

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I posted a photo of the US A frame stand I have three keyboards on behind the BG piano over in the Musica and Musicians thread in the main forum.. This was a cam-site I set up prior to redoing this whole room a couple of months back

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I posted a photo of the US A frame stand I have three keyboards on behind the BG piano over in the Musica and Musicians thread in the main forum.. This was a cam-site I set up prior to redoing this whole room a couple of months back

Am I missing something, I don't see a pic. By the way, thanx for pointing out the part on Ebay, I went over and grabbed it, I'm going to use it for a side bar extension. I have to go set up PA now, I'm renting out some PA to another band this weekend( I have to pay for that part you know LOL )., but when I get a little time I'll come back and try and explain some of the reasons I updated in the keyboard department. I doubt anything out there can do everything your Arps can though.

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Also go to the guy Ebays store.  He has another part.

There's a Music and Musician thread I have
http://www.karaoke-forum.com/viewtopic. ... &start=650

I wouldn't know.  The ARP Omni-2 is what I have.  I had an Odyssey but no longer do.  That was a foolish move to part with it..  But I looked at it as more of a physics lab project, or was it the 2600 ??  I don't recall.. LOL

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Ok Kappy, I'm back from a couple of fun day's of doing sound for, um....well, we'll just say a band that really only requires a lot of volume to help hide the imperfections. On the subject of keyboards. I just have one question up front. Do you now, or possibly in the future have any desire to create or recreate entire songs with just your keyboard and a computer? Ok I lied, two questions, have you done any composing using computer software like Sonar? well there we have it two whole questions. I spend hours and hours building sequences, I find it rather fulfilling. For example a band I work with is doing Time by Pink Floyd and I spent countless hours just building and perfecting the intro. Maybe it's the challenge, not sure, but it sure feels good when it's done and the first time you use it on stage people just look in amazement at what they just heard in their local bar.

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I've never used a computer for my music as of yet.  Don't even know how.  Still back in the analog age.  I'm not a composer.  Just a cover multiinstrumentalist. Playing the instruments is what I do I suppose... Never done much with my synths.  Have with Hammond and Electric pianos live, electric guitars, bass, piano and organ, sax, flute, vibes, trumpet. Written glee arrangements, and directed college and HS Jazz ensembles, sit in conductor for band and orchestra. (studied conducting too) but got somewhat out've classical scores, in fact I forgot all about that stuff, actually I was pushed so hard in classical that I'm now a rebel. If it was done in the classic rock genre..  I've probably done it on something. If it was done much after early 80's Dire Straits,  unless it was something I really liked.. Haven't touched it. Except for female piano accompaniment with Kate Bush, and a few Manilow arrangements, and jazz stuff later on.  Mainly cocktail jazz style in the 80's. Lounge stuff

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I posted a few of the guitars in my photo album.  About 1/3 of the collection

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A few guitars? Geez what don't you have, wait a minute, I don't know if I seen A Rickenbacker on there LOL . You certainly have one nice collection there. I'm down to just two guitars these days, which I guess isn't to bad seeing how I primarily play keyboards. Do you ever sell any of those  or do you just keep adding. A buddy of mine is really down on his luck these days and is feeling pretty sick because he's debating on if he's going to have to sell an ES335 that he's had since he was a kid, I think it's a 1964 if i'm not mistaken. Is there anyway for me to get you an MP3, I'd like you to hear a couple of things that were done with Sonar and a Yamaha MO6. I think even the guitars are believable. Somebody like you would have a ball using your puter to sequence music, I can get lost for hours trying to perfect things. Well, for now I must go back and work on a Headeast tune a friend of mine was kind enough to give me a few pointers on.

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   It's me, Kappy (the big jewish kid with the gentile nose) again.   This year please send me a Rick 360, a 12 string Rick 360, and a 4001 bass.  My concern is that in all the catalogues it states "No returns on Rickenbacker guitars" and that they are being clearanced or something.  Why is this ?  Oh yeah,  Regarding the Steinberger, and Park Fly guitars, and the Line 6 Clearanced basses, those can wait until my birthday in January.  


PS..   Thanks for last years coal btw,  I sold it on Ebay as Onyx and made a profit !

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See, this is the problem,  I can't, it's like a disease,  in the guitarist circuit it's even named after a condition  GAS  (Guitar Aquisition Syndrome) .  What's worse, is that some of the cases haven't been opened in close to two decades (I have in the vacinity of 36 electrics).  While a few have supposedly appreciated,  try selling them without headache buyers for their actual value.  As with so many things, you get calls, no shows, people trying to haggle, So much depends on location..  Here in CT it's not like a larger city or university area where there are more artsy people that know the value of Art, musical stuff, etc....  There are a few in the past I sold,  but what I currently have I pretty much want, or feel I'm likely stuck with... I made a few wise-buys,  but bought a few dogs too in my day... Just the nature of the beast.  Amp collection is big too.  Now in THAT area I have serious regrets about what I've sold vs what is now valuable in the tube realm..  Also audio tube stuff I gave away I now regret..  You have any tube shortwave radios you want to sell, Nothing elaborate,  I'll settle for a Japan Radio brand, Hammarlund,etc.     LOL    N scale electric trains ?  [strike]Voluptuous middle-aged experienced women[/strike] Nah, bad investment, At one point they want me to part with my toys, "How many of those do you need"?  they exclaim... while continuing with, "I need room in the closet for my 300 pair of fall shoes, and I need to do more exercisorizing so I sold your red guitar with the two pointy things for 100 bucks, in order to do some accessorizing"... :no:  !

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A buddy of mine is really down on his luck these days and is feeling pretty sick because he's debating on if he's going to have to sell an ES335 that he's had since he was a kid, I think it's a 1964 if i'm not mistaken.


NO !  He must NOT ever do this !!!!  NEVER !!!


When he isn't looking, take it from him and hide it in a location until he's of healthier mindset,  he'll thank you for it !  Not sure what you mean "down on his luck", but assuming he had that guitar since he was young, it's become a big part of him.. A friend, During down and depressed moments people MUST NOT sell musical instruments that they've had that long worth that kind of money.. It's a great investment and something a person can do all but take with them at the end HOWEVER, now is NOT the time to sell that guitar..  He just can't... Let the creditors come after him but DO NOT sell that guitar, selling a guitar like that when down on luck is the worst time to sell..  :shock:  

(Of course if he really wants to part with it how much ???? :drool: )

Nah, seriously, I wouldn't have the heart to take a guys guitar when he's down on his luck, BUT just so you, and he know,  the bluebook average market selling price on a decent condition to excellent condition TD 335 (as long as it's not a 330, 345, or 355) was over $5500-$6000 6 years ago.  Now it's of course higher.. If it's a twelve string model they never really appreciated that much however.

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