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I love having a monitor speaker. But one thing I notice -- sometimes the monitor feed doesn't have any reverb on it. If you know what is going on, it is OK I guess -- you realize that all those small imperfections in your tone are taken away in the main mix.

But it gives the singer a lot more confidence when they hear some reverb in the monitor feed.

What say you all?

Mickey this is a problem Im trying to solve now. I have a system that applies 3 different FX to the vocals. I have singers saying turn down my mic etc

I cant convince them they are sounding as good as the others.. As a singer I prefer the vocal on the monitor hot no FX so I can hear what I actually sound like if I am having troubles.  A good stage setup always has a sweet spot where you can hear the monitor and the mains A song that I have sang many times I walk to an area where I just hear the mains. A novice singer freezes in one spot.

I recently gave up and put full Fx on the monitor (JBL Eon10 G2) I too would like comments on this subject.

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For me it causes too many feedback problems, especially when some singers drop the mic down towards the monitor during non-singing intervals....I usually put some efx on it, not as much as to the mains, though......maybe I just got cheap sh!t....dunnO.......

a "Correctly" tuned system will NEVER feed back. Reverb or any effect, should "Compliment" your system, not interfere with it. The only time you should be aware of your effects...is when you shut them off. But to answer your question, yes reverb on the monitors gives the singer, a better sound quality. However at times a faults sence of professionalism, they actually do not process. But i put a touch of reverb on the monitors..it just sounds better to the singers and to me.  :worship:

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So I suck.... ...actually...feedback is one of my special effects...kinda like the start of a Beetle's song..... ....dat, George.....he so silly......

The feedback caused by Fx is usually caused by  hitting the FX unit with too much level or unity  thus destroying the overall system gain. Not only does it cause feedback it causes distortion and clipping. This is one reason I dont like putting procs between the mixer and amps.

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Yes, I don't want huge amounts of effects on the monitor vocal. Just enough that you remove those small imperfections that are in most any singer's voice -- the same ones which you don't hear in a room.

My favorite reverb effect is the "small room". That sounds most natural to me.

Another comment...  I have over the years boosted a singers confidence with Fx and after relaxing and using the system they have improved immensely.. It really depends upon the singers ability.. So what is the balance?

Edit:  I am a professional when it deals with improving singers quality. This is a subject   that all KJ'S should take very seriously

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I think it does depend on the singer. But I believe even good singers sing better with just enough reverb to remove the little hiccups. While they may consciously know that those flaws are not audible in the mains, subconsciously I believe it is distracting.


I think that is the aim for most hosts, but not all. Sat. night I had a host who for whatever reason decided to remove effects from the mains when I sang (starting on my second song), and not when he or his friend sang. I don't know if he didn't think I knew or what, but I left after my third song, when it was obvious that was what was happening.

I also think there is another host I have run across is who actually tries to encourage bad singers and discourage good ones. He has a large following, and they are uniformly bad. But they love it, and who is to say he is wrong?

Mickey, you better put it on "Cathedral" setting to git rid of all my imperfections!

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I don't use reverb on a monitor, but I have been known to use a bit of slapback. Seeing how a monitor is suppose to be for the performer to hear their voice, if a little slapback echo is applied ( depending on the situation 50 to 150 ms) will allow the singer to hear their own voice for a few ms in a more precise manor than coloring it with reverb. The effect will give the performer a thicker more powerful sounding voice in the monitor, perhaps giving them a little more confidence. As Lonman will probably attest to( I hope ), slapback is often used in a live band situation when a singer insists that they need more volume on the monitor because they just can't hear themselves. Sometimes you just don't have anymore head room, so stick a little slapback in and poof the singer perceives loudness when in fact the voice is just thicker. I personally want to know if I'm singing flat so I can correct it.

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For me vol is more important than efx for monitoring. I just need to hear myself AND the music. Effect such as reverb or slapback is a bonus when feed in the right amount. When used too much it distract me.

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Actually when I run bands, there is NO effect in the monitor as per 99% request.  They want a dry sound as to be able to hear themselves as they actually come out.
Which is how I adjust my karaoke singers - IF they want something else, i'll give it to them, but rarely do I get asked to change it & get complimented on the monitor sound.

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for me I want to hear what is going foh so I always have my monitor reflecting that. I use more reverb than most of you here I dare say...mainly cos I cant stand my voice dry. On the rare time I do karaoke I lose interest after a song if I have nothing but dry vocals coming back to me, or worse, no monitor at all and foh so damned muddy that its impossible to hear

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With my own band I do run the monitors dry, but I do get asked rather frequently to add effect to the monitors on other bands, just this last weekend to be exact. I didn't say I agreed with them, but hey, they pay me so I give them what they ask for . I personally run my monitor dry and more often then not I can still hear the effects from  the frontals anyway. As far as using delay to gain perceived volume, that comes straight from the Yamaha Soundmans bible, if memory serves me.( I am getting pretty old though)

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I have found my customers enjoy a taste of reverb. And as for myself. I have refused to sing at many of my friends kj shows, because either their FOH or monitors were dry...yuk   JMOHO

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The monitor spread is about 90 degrees. Walk over where you hear the mains

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I don't run effects through my monitors either. It is a bit of a double edged sword though. People assume what they hear through the monitor is what the crowd hears. So then they' complain about not having enough reverb.

Even though I don't run effects through the monitor I swear I still hear some at times. It may be the mains I'm picking it up from though.

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Ever try to out run a blasting over driven monitor feed? i know you...you can't run that far.  

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We tilt the monitor to one side To the side of the monitor and closer to the mains you can t hear it.  It is hard sometimes to achieve a balance with all singers.

First song of the night I drift out in front of the mains for a sound check. The difference is like between night and day. It is awesome.

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