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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:06 am 
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Hi all,

So after browsing through the forums, I rolled down to my local guitar center and ended up picking up a Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer and a Peavey PR15N powered speaker.  Turns out my Oppo 971H DVD player plays cd+g, so I'm  holding out on getting a karaoke player for now.  Here's the problem I'm having.  The Oppo is connected to the LCD via HDMI and the audio via RCA from the Oppo to the Xenyx.  Then I have the speaker connected to the main out.  However, when I try to play the 1 cd+g karaoke disc I bought, I noticed that the sound is very high pitched.  There's almost no base.  Is this a function of the disc being a cheapo disc I bought on clearance to test out my Oppo, or a technical issue?  When plugged back into my tv, the sound seems fine.  I've tried turning down the mixer's main out volume and the speaker's volume up, and that sort of helps, but the mic's volume will be down.  If anyone can help, that'd be great!  Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Set up help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:11 am 
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What disc did you buy - ie manufacturer.  Some manus do suck & HAVE no bass.
Try plugging the player into the channels of the mixer instead of the RCA tape/cd in.  This will allow you to adjust the individual eq for the player as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Set up help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:35 am 
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I don't even recognize the name (as seen on the cd+g brand topic).  I'm hoping to have a friend bring over his discs (mostly SGB and Chartbusters I think) tonight and I can try again.  In the meantime, I will take your advice about the RCA to 1/4"


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:38 pm 
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Hi Lonman,

So I tried hooking up a CD player to it to see if I have the same problems.  It does.  Absolutely no bass (I haven't gone out to get the RCA to 1/4" yet).  I figured that this method eliminates the disc as the source of the problem.  For powered speakers, do you have to crank it up a certain level before the woofers "kick in?"  Or should there be bass even when the volume is low?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:46 pm 
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are you going mono or stereo out? Sounds like you're only outputing treble and midrange to your single speaker...


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Thanks for the reply knight.  I'm thinking mono (pardon my ignorance on sound equipment).  The salesperson at guitar center said I only needed one cable.  So going into the mixer is L/R from the cd player, but from the mixer to the speaker is only the L channel (arbitrary, I could do R instead).  Do you think if I got another speaker cable and say plugged the L into channel 1 and the R into channel 2, that would fix my problem, or is getting an RCA to 1/4" for the CD player to the mixer going to fix this problem?


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if it's coming out mono, then yeah, you're only getting one output, and chances are if you move the cable to the other one, you'll get all bass!

Lon, what does this gentleman need to get to use the single speaker and use it like a PA system? I'm unfamiliar with this particular mixer or speaker.


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Ok, so I got an RCA to 1/4" for the CD to mixer.  I am able to control the music and vocals independently now, but the sound still sounds "hollow" as my fiancee put it (the system is for her).  I tried switching the mono output to the R and didn't get all bass (same thing).  I tried turning down the treble with the mixer and the bass up, but no change.  I'm just not getting that "boom" that I would expect.  So does anyone know if I were to get another speaker cable and have a setup where the L/R from the mixer goes into channel 1 and ch 2 in the speaker, if that would get the sound that I should get?  Or did I get "had" at guitar center by being told that one speaker would suffice for my karaoke application?


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Okay, so I think I've determined the speakers were DOA.  I just called the guitar center and they had me do a couple of tests (wish I had thought of this, but my ignorance hindered my troubleshooting skills) and the cd player directly to the speaker test failed to even produce sound from the woofers.  Unfortunately, no karaoke tonight for the lady's birthday because my local center just sold their last 2 today.  Anyway, I live in the sacramento area, so if you ever had to shop at that guitar center, their prices are great and customer service even better.  Unfortunately, bad luck struck and I have to drive down to the bay area to exchange the speaker.  Thank you all for you help thus far.  I have the supercore 2007 and SGB 66 disc set from acekaraoke.com's ebay store on the way.  Hopefully this time next week, I'll have a functional system.  Too bad b/c this weekend is probably going to be in the 100's and staying indoors w/ a/c and karaoke would've been a nice relief.  Everyone have a great and safe holiday weekend!


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Test your sound system out with a known regular music CD. THe music tracks are the same as the CD+G system and are not of unknown quality (unless you have a favorite karaoke CD). . Even the best karaoke makers have some bad songs.

Play a song you know well from a standard cd to check your sound system, you will know what to expect and be able to optimize for more minor differences. Once you get it working, then buy some good Karaoke CDs. Use your tester cd just to get the video working.


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