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 Post subject: Re: Pesky Hangers-around
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:49 pm 
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Matt Great Post !

The 2 same people can say the same words, but it can be interpreted differently.
It's all in how you say it.

Kappy hit the nail on the head too about dealing with drunks. Sometimes I find myself biting my tongue and playing nice just not to set them off. Other times being harsh just goes over their heads. Knowing the crowd helps a lot.

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Babs, I also think ALL females that work in bar type environments, or have jobs in cities where they might find themselves alone in certain garage parking lots SHOULD seriously consider taking safety courses such as what Matt was mentioning.

Just a side note.. I get scared when my Mom and Sister go anyplace close to a downtown city and need to park in one of the multilevel enclosed parking garages where they have NO real protection from some sicko stalker, or individual who can hide and wait..

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Never allow yourself to become as vulnerable as this poor elderly defenseless woman !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elb9GoPFurI

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Steven Kaplan @ Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:24 pm wrote:

It doesn't have to be overtly "confrontational" at all. To a person you say this to it VERY easily might be perceived as personal rejection, ESPECIALLY if the individual has seen those you like close to you, and others up close to you.  Wouldn't you perceive it as such given this scenerio ? "Please don't stand there" ?  What are you saying to the person ?  Regardless of reason you ARE rejecting them.  Would you say that if a supermodel was close to you (assuming the supermodel was the opposite gender and you didn't have a spouse who'd chastise you for this?)

Fact is, Others have feelings, and often a person is around you for a reason. They might be gravitating towards you and your setup because they don't feel comfortable in other locations, and wish to be away from rowdy kids in a very crowded small area.  They might truly be interested in what you do, and unless you have little concern regarding what to some might come across as blatant rudeness, a message construed as "get lost buddy" is how this easily will be interpretted.



And that is one of the biggest problems with society today.  So many people are afraid to say ANYTHING that could be perceived as negative because it might hurt somebody's feelings or offend their sensibilities.   And look where that has led us.  Kids aren't held back in school because it might hurt their self esteem.  That being an illiterate adult is going to hurt the rest of their lives doesn't matter, it's only their feelings that matter!   Or we've got a Senate trying to find a way to allow 20 million illegal aliens to become citizens because it's now too mean and racist to enforce our current immigration laws the way virtually every other country in the world enforces theirs.  We're a nation of feelings mongering wusses.

There is a big difference between "get the f*** away from my equipment" and "excuse me, please keep this area clear because I need it to work".   If somebody is going to interpret them as equal, that's their issue, not mine. If you're old enough to drink, you're old enough to be able to handle being politely asked to move out of the way without being affected emotionally by it.


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Never allow yourself to become as vulnerable as this poor elderly defenseless woman !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elb9GoPFurI
saw THAT one coming a mile away Kappy! LOL!

Kinda reminds me of this REAL vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQDxSwEcMCM


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LMAO

Never saw that one.  Funny !

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knightshow @ Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:01 pm wrote:
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Never allow yourself to become as vulnerable as this poor elderly defenseless woman !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elb9GoPFurI
saw THAT one coming a mile away Kappy! LOL!

Kinda reminds me of this REAL vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQDxSwEcMCM


Oh man, that is freaking hilarious.  Gotta love seeing karma in action.


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Seems that there are many of those "granny" movies over in You Tube.  I need to watch those.. Pretty cute !  The Parking garage video I specifically searched for having seen it over two years ago thinking it was hilarious !  The others I'm not familiar with !  But it looks as though Matt's womens safety course works !  LMAO

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Those movies were hillarious.  LMAO

I'm as careful as I guess I can be in public parking lots. I always have someone watch me walk to my care from the bar when I leave and I won't go to the mall at night by myself. You can't be to careful now a days.

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I'm as careful as I guess I can be in public parking lots. I always have someone watch me walk to my care from the bar when I leave and I won't go to the mall at night by myself. You can't be to careful now a days.


Unfortuneately I agree with you.  Not just for females but ALL people.  The world has changed since the days we'd hitch-hike 4 miles home from school in 4th grade. People trusted each other (within reasonable boundaries of course)

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