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I  dont know how many people here have been at sea When you have an open wound sea water hurts,,Now you have a mother whale and her calf convelessing in a fresh water river..They were cut by a 30,foot screw of an ocean vessel. Now you have a bunch of bleeding liberals who want to play god again.. )OhNo NO NO We need to get them back where they belong.

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Save the bunnies!!

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It's also EXTREMELY healthy for open wounds, and promotes fastest healing.  I know as fact,  I had very deep wounds, and the doc prescribed me swimming in the Atlantic (this was down in florida when I slipped on slime on a pier, and cut my leg on barnacles, sharp rock edges, etc).  Sure it stings initially, but it's still healing.

(I wouldn't recommend swimming in the LI sound however, or polluted waters these days with open wounds, but sea-water that's clean is very good for wounds).  Poison Ivy too !

HOWEVER,  If medical people think the whale belongs in fresh water, because that's what's best for it.  The medical field taking care of the Whales knows what's best.  I have no idea what's best for a whale.  So I let those that specialize in that area make the determination of what's best for the animal.  I'm in no position to know.
IOW,  nobody is going to go thru the effort and expense of moving a protected and endangered species of that large a mammal UNLESS they know what's in it's best interest. The people that move and take care of these mammoth mammals care A LOT about their well-being, and don't wish to see them in harms way.

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Of course,  without having a clue what this specific area is about, and what the protests are about in this area, I'd have to know what is going on .   I haven't heard anything about the wounded whale.

http://www.graysreef.nos.noaa.gov/whale ... atomy.html

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ya know I am all for mother nature doing its thing but that video was hideous Bill, simply because the bunny didnt have its normal fighting chance nature would allow it

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I refuse to watch that video btw !     Granted certain situations exist.  I still don't watch them !   I don't consider certain videos "entertainment".

JMO

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couldnt agree more Kappy, and there are enough nature progs about that could have been showen without the class seeing that

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I didn't watch it Vicki,  I saw the heading, and know that stuff like that IS shown on the net as entertainment all too often now.  If I were a parent,  and I had a sensitive child, assuming that was for a class to view,  I'd be livid ! Just basing this on what you are stating.  Again,  I won't watch it.  That is over the line for me.


As soon as I saw the heading,  I knew what it was.  Because I know when :Mature Content" is flashed, and know what some consider "entertaining" on the internet.  I'm adamantly opposed to the thought of people watching certain things or filming certain aspects of reality as "Entertainment".  I feel this away about various aspects of the foodchain, as well as those that watched the Nick Berg and a few other civilian beheadings because they thought it'd be "Interesting" to watch on the Ogrish site.  


Sorry,  I censor myself when it comes to certain things.  I have no problems with consentual sexual acts, but attacks, violence, death, dying, killing of any sort I will not watch anylonger.  While something is victorious, something else suffers..  I don't need to watch it.

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Yeah I found it when I followed another link on here...I think it was the one with the Chineese workers under the press working.

I watched it, and am completely familiar with the raw, cruelty of nature such as this. Regardless this is sad, as Morgan says the poor bunny didn't really have natures natural chance in this situation. I suppose everyone that has pet snakes has to feed them things like this constantly and most require live food I believe. But I agree...I don't like it. Guess when I saw the save the whales post I immediately thought of the terrible bunny video I just saw.

Steven you're probably right, I probably shouldn't have watched this. This isn't entertainment. It slipped under the radar. Life is cruel enough without dwelling on this stuff, and seeing it. I just removed the link.

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Bill,  The fact is (although I'm not telling anybody what they should or should not watch),  I have MY individual issues,  and having worked as a manager of Tropical Fish sections in Pet Shops much of my teen-life,  I had many arguments with employees that used to look forward to feeding the pythonids, and boids.

A similar movie almost slipped by me too.  It was entitled "Mr Snake,  Meet Mr Rabbit". It was for entertainment only.  I just find this wrong because I've also had pet rodents, as have many..


All I'd suggest Bill,  is that you forwarn a few what they are about to see if they click on that site, because at least a few females I know from this site will NOT wish to view that, or see it just in lieu of clicking on the link.

As to what some watch,  well, That's there own perrogative.  I respect ALL life, and personally only kill mosquito's,  have been a vegetarian many times for similar reasons, didn't wear leather, but didn't condemn those that do, etc..

Just my life..  My values,  Just my preferences... To each their own


Incidently,  many that have constrictors as pets (and god only knows why they do )  feed the snakes thawed out "frozen" substances these days.  Often times in times the snakes even lose their innate ability to constrict.  Retics, and certain pythonids however have EXTREMELY active feeding responses, God forbid you go near an 11+ foot Burnese, African Rock, or Burmese Python after handling poultry or a Rodent, you are as good as dead   Also never handle a large snake drunk..  People have died just because they are tipsy and the snake clings with 13-19 lbs of Pound per sq Inch pressure.  Adult pythons hug tree limbs with over 250 lbs of pressure... Anacondas (boids) more constricting force than pythonids..

Yes, I know A LOT about herpetology,  I won't watch it.

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Steven I think I miss your old avatar. That psychedelic all seeing eye.

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Interesting Side Note:

I've been involved with CT legislature attempting to ban ownership of certain potentially dangerous exotic pets.  Included are Hot snakes, and pythonids that are USUALLY ALWAYS escape artists, and don't belong in households with young kids.  Believe me, it's stupid to have a collection of 15 foot pythons in a home that also has 4 year old kids.  When one of these monsters escapes it's trouble for the neighborhood, and many that get pythons as pets do-so for "drool" factor,  A large snake defecates like a horse, eats large rodents, and is tough to care for.  AND almost nobody will take a large snake, so the animal ends up euthanized.  If a person lives on a farm in some rural area and wants a snake that's their call.  But in my own town, a few idiots have had pet Rattlers,  and Pythons in Apartment dwellings.  That should be outlawed

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Yeah well you have the Pit Bulldogs that often get out and maul or kill people too. Probably that should be legislated as well.

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My isp connection goes thtu a couple of barb wire fences so I cant watch videos, But let me tell you what I know how to shoot a rabbit skin it and cook it for dinner...

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Problem you'd face with that is those that have had pet pitbulls, and many others claim that the dogs that are THAT aggressive have been trained roughly, or have been abused. Whether I agree or not is moot, most disagree that a healthy well raised Pitbull is a danger, I don't know. Pitbull terriers are VERY common, and there are very few episodes relative to the number of pet owners, however proportionately, almost all constrictor owners have had their snake escape at one point. Dogs trained to be  aggressive  shouldn't be kept as pets in residential areas of course, and the owner must be held 100% accountable.  Akida's, Dobies, Rotts, etc.  I'd not want certain breeds that are prone to being high-strung, but it's VERY uncommon for a pitbull to just "snap" like that.  Thing is,  Snakes are natural preditors with a VERY tiny brain.  You will never be able to train a 15 foot python to snuggle with you and the kids safely,  Pythons are strong preditory reptiles, as are Kamoda Dragons..  They just don't belong in an Apt complex. You won't tame them, since they aren't predictable.  Pitbulls however almost always are UNLESS you have an abused animal, or one that was trained to be vicious..  I suppose some animals are preditors, where-as cats stand a better chance of not escaping their terrarium and slithering into the neighbors condo, Pythons are exceptionally strong animals,  a 5 foot snake can use it's head as a battering ram and knock over an average sized adult..  Tough to contain these animals unless you have VERY suitable habitat.

Now I DO believe there should be exceptions allowed,  Certain zoologists, or people that have permits and aren't impulsively buying a potentially dangerous animal for "coolness" factor that almost always has a sad ending for the snake, and occassionally an owner..  Few stand a chance surviving against 10 foot or larger python mistaking their owner for prey strike.  Even with two people,  one would need to be armed or know how to untangle the python head-first..  Problem is kids can't and often don't think about what happens when their monster grows to its potential 15-25 foot length.  Almost no zoo wants more snakes,  they have their share, and they live a LONG time

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it is legislated here Bill. Too many have attacked children and even adults...the shame of it is that it is the owners that need legislating against not the dogs. Animals are merely a reflection of their upbringing and training

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Yeah,  I've seen Rottweilers that've scared the living (((*& out've me.  Those things have LARGE heads.  I'm inclined to believe that the pitbull (although a friggin strong dog with vices as jaws) are less of the problem than *as vicki stated* at times, the type of person who gets the dog, and their motive for getting such a breed.  Aggressive dog,  angry owner.... NOT a good combo with ANY breed


Look at the Fidelco Guide dog program,  best concept there is IMHO, but I'm glad they strictly screen the individuals who share the priviledge of bringing the puppy up for the first 9 (or-so) months of it's life, or until it is old enough to go to school for it's purpose in animal/human interaction. It's great they strictly screen and make sure people that raise these puppies take classes and adhere to certain standards because abuse a pup just one time,  it will never be able to be a guide dog that can be trusted.. ANimals don't forget,  upbringing is CRITICAL.. This typifies the importance of why certain breeds can be extremely rewarding pets, but also miserable probs such as the people that create such a disposition in the animal.

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this country is not dog friendly...if you walk a dog it must be on a leash at all times, in some places dog walking is banned and in others they must wear a muzzle. I have a 13 year old english pointer who is under extremely good vocal command...she just doesnt understand why she should be on a leash and has lost all interest in going for a walk

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Hehehe,  I miss the Brigit Bardot avator.. Gave my eye some of the best viewing since the psychedelic era when I had blacklight posters, pot, booze,  (before I gained my virginity)

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