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Each year about one-and-a-half million people are hurt by violence in the workplace. This table, based on information from the National Crime Victimization Survey, shows the risk of being a victim of violence in a given year at different jobs:

JOB RATE
PER
1,000
WORKERS


POLICE OFFICERS
306
PRIVATE SECURITY GUARDS
218
TAXI DRIVERS
184
PRISON GUARDS
117
BARTENDERS
91
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS
80
GAS STATION ATTENDANTS
79
CONVENIENCE, LIQUOR STORE CLERKS
68
MENTAL HEALTH CUSTODIAL WORKERS
63
JUNIOR HIGH/MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHERS
45
BUS DRIVERS
45
SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS
41
HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS
29
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHERS
26
COLLEGE TEACHERS
3

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What?

Nothing about the risk to KJ's?



Interesting info Steven. Surely it's all the recent school shootings over the last several years that has raised the statistics in that environment?

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Teachers, especially K-12, are also subject to assault by "special needs" children.  NCLB has led to thousands of dollars being spent by school districts to treat employees (teachers, aides, and security especially) every year due to the physical damage done to them by children.

Seems strange they never mentioned the military

Neat info Steven.  I'm sure firefighters are in there somewhere.

Since 9/11 we have lost a little over 3,000 soldiers in Iraq.  Don't mean to down play those numbers.  I hate it, but my view it is far better to be fighting terrorism over there than here in the USA. I personally feel that we ARE in a war with terrorism and must realize that the definition war and how it is carried out is no longer, "like it used to be."

Which leads me to bring up another interesting stat that the news stated the other day.

Since 9/11, 45,000 Americans have been killed by "Illegal aliens."

I guess what I am trying to say is that we make the loss of life in Iraq to be the ultimate sin; yet the numbers of folks dieing here at home (firefighters, police, civilians due to crime, fire and accidents) seem to fly under our "emotional radar".  I think it comes down to that the deaths in Iraq (due to the news media) become political, while the "deaths" at home, are simply "individual."

Hope I've made my post understandable without hurting anyone's feelings.

Kelly

Not sure if I follow you here Kelly,  I think the flipside might apply too (sorry if I'm misinterpreting something here).  The war is a large media coverage event, but I believe some don't feel the same element of "fear", but actually more detachment, and depersonalization when comparing "war-time death over there", with homeland civilian attack at a peaceful workplace, IE. Some feel "Go to Iraq and statistically your chances of death are high", "stay in US and mind your business", in such a sense, the victim of unexpected circumstance HERE renders such an individuals death a situation that hits closer to home, it's more closely identified with by many..There's alot of selfishness involved with the invested amounts of concern, alot of detachment when comparing "here" with "Over in that deathtrap where we don't belong anyway".. (right or wrong some view it this way)..

Similarly, When three of *our* troops die SHOULD it impact us more than our "Shock and Awe" event which killed how many Iraqi women and children ?   People DO prioritize qualify, and even quantify significance of death...There's some detachment felt with "Over there", I believe, because many can't understand "war". The closest they CAN understand is watching 9-11, and many even detach from that, FEW understand tragedy as you do Kelly, most live in denial, they don't see certain things, they turn the TV on and off, and they also avoid crises situations.. Some that watch it on TV consider it "Adventure story", and get a vicarious thrill by watching it.. crisis to them is exciting, but not REAL.  Just as many are so confused they don't know the difference between Husseine and Bin Laden, they just believe what they are told, HOWEVER, THOSE individuals might think a soldiers death in Iraq, is more significant than a security guards death in a rural town here.

*I believe* in the eyes of some, the civilian working in what should be a peaceful environment becomes more of a "victim" to many more, such a person when hurt has received (in the eyes of some) a "sucker punch" that they aren't trained or prepared for, they are seen as innocent victims of the unspeakable (when it happens here on the homeland). I'm not sure how many I know feel more concern over Iraq casualties, than the terror felt in a case such as "The beltway snipers" incident, the random shooting situation a few years back,  where people were getting killed and their backyard became the frontline, there was A LOT of horror and fear, few didn't identify with fear of being a "drive-by" statistic when a "White van" drove by them while they were putting gasoline in their car, stats of course were low that could happen, BUT MOST were afraid, death literally hit close to home.. I live in CT, and each time I saw a "white van" I got an eery feeling..  Similarly, when a local policeman was accidently killed during roadside assistance.. I think MANY did in fact feel a more profound impact locally seeing THAT on local news, than reading about Iraq casualty via media coverage.. (BUT, I might be very wrong). Many here DO have their heads in the sand I believe Kelly.  Reason-being,  assuming enough were aware given the number of threats prior to 9-11,  WHY would our airlines not have taken precautions and at least locked the cockpit doors on our airliners ? Why didn't we at least take some precautions such as what Israeli airports have known all along ?  Because we became so arrogant as a nation we felt "Nobody is going to mess with us here in the US" ?  MANY were, and are shocked, BUT, many can't understand tragedy, and remain in denial..  There were past threats regarding "Airlines as missiles", episodes in the 90's, Y2K, afterwards,  and even Primetime TV aired a segment where this was discussed 6 weeks prior to 9-11 (roughly)..  I think there's some detachment, depersonalization, and even dissociation with "What happens in the barbaric land of Iraq" when compared with "What happens here in the US",  where too many believe we are invincible.

Unfortuneately the media DOES influence "lynchmob mentality", and "value of certain lives" in far too many, and THAT makes me uncomfortable.  Example.. Let
s take that beltway sniper episode again, initially they caught the wrong individual.. Do you recall HOW MANY would've lynched this guy prior to him getting a trial ?  How many hated him based upon what turned out to be effigy only ?   They caught the wrong person.. People believe too much of what they don't see, what they do see, and selectively what they wish to see, or can see, there's A LOT of denial among people when it comes to tragedy.

JMO.  Not sure...  What scares me most is all those that don't take time to think for themselves,  those that take on values instilled by television.  That terrifies me !

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kappy you wouldnt like to write an editorial for me would you? pretty please?

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Good points Steve.  I guess what I was getting at with the quote you singled out, is that now days people expect us to go to war and not lose any lives.  I think for as long as we have been in Iraq the count is really low.  Again, not making light of our deaths but I know from history that the wars we've had, (WWII)  we lost 4 & 5,000 per battle sometimes.  That was also when you knew who the enemy was.  They had marked vehicles and uniforms.

I guess I get fed up with the media for not telling the truth of all the good we are doing over there.  I guess I have talked with about 12 different soldiers who have been over there; in different areas; and everyone of them has told me the same thing; they can't understand why the media doesn't highlight the good things we are doing.  Only the bad.

Kelly

Agree 100%.  There's a reason I spend so much time online playing. I watch 0 TV.. When others watch television shows, I'm yacking in here, or trying to surround myself with some aspect of music..  There's a downside with "too much media freedom" in a culture where individuals often DO NOT think for themselves.. That's the problem I have..  Sensationalism without balance and proper coping mechs is a nasty thing IMHO...

Kelly, there's a VERY good reason that "the media doesn't highlight the good things", and that's the sick fact that fewer people would watch "the good things", THAT'S what's sick,  whether the media controls the viewer, or vice-versa I don't know, but similar to the Casino's doing so well off've what many consider human weakness and greed, the media takes advantage of the dark part of our psychology in the same way "Rubbernecking" works...  

"If it's horrific, they will have a tougher time not watching, People love watching blood and gore, and tragedy, AND if they watch regardless of what it takes to get them to watch, our ratings are good, we are a business".

So what's the solution at this point ?  There's a downside to too much media freedom too, or lack of certain types of regulation..  If people didn't like watching what television showed primetime, and more boycotted it and joined internet Karaoke sites posting thousands of posts, TV would likely have to change  LMAO

Who do we blame, the media or the viewer ?  I blame both,  If I watched it, I'd be at fault for supporting it.

Fact is,  there's so much freedom, that oftentimes our nation shoots itself in the foot.  Does the WHOLE world need to know just how screwed up our president is (every little detail of personal quirks?), similarly our CEO's, and leaders ?  Must we view the extent of big business corruption to ALL the world ? This benefits us as a super-power how ?  While on one side of the coin it shows people "The US is free", the other side of the coin shows the world how screwey the free country is that's supposed to exemplify power and freedom because  "look what their president does with cigars"  There should be SOME limits to what's shown IMHO... (But I might again be wrong, dunno..this is JMHO)   We often make ourselves look quite stupid by advertising certain issues internationally. Quite paradoxical to the image we wish to give, granted it's one thing to admit imperfection, but our media also makes a mockery out've certain things in the United States that best not be seen by many IMHO... Especially if we try to portray "This is as good as it gets"

I believe there is a problem with some of what the media broadcasts, however I know of no solution (havent pondered this much really), freedom of press is something many want to remain unimpeded I suppose.. In some cases violence, copycat episodes, and bigotry is caused by what some see, without having background knowledge or general education regarding such situations,  the presentation isn't first and foremost "impartial', stations are competing against similar presentations elsewhere for viewer attention  :no:  I don't know Kelly,  I just try to avoid watching that stuff..

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sorry duplicate post,  site stalled

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Just send the felons responsible for the number of physical attacks represented in the table to Iraq.  Send the rest of them too. What the hell, empty the prisons and ship 'em over.

This should get me kicked off the forum.
The media is controlling sheep all over the world.
What I dont know is if the media controll governments or vise versa.
I do not believe for one second that Bush and Blair went into Iraq for anything other than OIL. Not mentioning IRAN. Dont need to do I. You all know.
I have seen much footage about 911 as I'm sure you all have.
I have not seen any evidence to confirm some thoeries as rubbish.
Many of them stand up. Ofcoarse it could be me having selective viewing.
I dont have what you guys have.
I am not proud to be British. I look at our history and cringe.
ROYALTY so revered by the masses... are the decendants of the biggest murderers,
thieves and all round very naughty people we ever had.
People want to stand up and cheer them.
Well if thats not telling the media they can do whatever they want....
And how did Bush win his election...

Please. I am in no way having a go at Americans.
If that is how it appears I prefusesly appologise.
I will never again talk politics. Sorry if I offended you.

I personally have a VERY broad back when it comes to politics.  I'm usually the one that needs to keep my mouth shut.   .

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I've talked to 3 soldiers who have been there.  One thinks we don't belong there and the other 2 aren't sure.  Of course they are all over the age of 30 and can think for themselves more so than someone who's been out of boot for more than a couple years.  I'm not sure we belong there and i don't know what to do about the mess that's been created/taken over by us.  The reason I'm not sure is because who knows what the real deal is?  Who many pieces of the puzzle is the average american not being told?

I have a pretty good idea what's going on.. But...  I need Milo to lend me the Avatar with duct tape over the mouth because at this point out've due deference to the political perspective of likely 40% of the readers (Give or take about 20%), it's highly controversial, so I must at this point impose a gag restriction on my fingers.  I have friends here that don't wish to hear what I'm quite confident about regarding this.. So,  I'll now remove myself from this thread, and hang in the music room where I'll get in less trouble  LOL..

Interesting discussion so-far all,  this is where I step off the train..(I hope the dang thing isn't moving)

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Jian,  don't let me near here anymore, OK ?   Thanks    LMAO

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Can we have some self censorship here, before its too late?....

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For gods sake...
Dont get me going on censorship...
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