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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:51 pm 
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Hi, I think pop stars ??? are making more money than they deserve.
I feel the media is trying to coerse people (sheep) into supporting
and buying and even liking material that is not worth listning to.
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Add star athletes, movie stars, and CEOs ofr major corporations to the list. I have never met anyone whose quality of workmanship in ANY field is worth that many millions.

However, the rules of supply-and-demand apply. Their incomes are dictated by what the market willl bear. Sucky, but true.

If I could convince my boss I am worth a couple million (which, of course I AM), I would take it. Heck, I would settle for a cost-of-living increase right now.  LOL

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I suppose I can object to it.  However I'd also love to be at the receiving end of that type money so in a sense I have no right objecting.  When a person can become one of the wealthiest people in the nation chasing a little ball around grass, and catching and throwing balls jumping around like a chimp too I suppose it makes you think.  If you are marketable,  you can be very wealthy.

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In some ways it's not the big money that bothers me as much as it's the attitude; particularly with athletes.  I know when I was in high school, and I either scored a touchdown or made a tackle, I didn't want to act like it was the first time I ever did it.  LOL

Or how the "Hollywood elites" seem to think they speak for us "commoners" when it comes to the political issues.

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In my eyes not enough attention is given to the team and too much is given to the individual. I always fealt that I was part of the team when in uniform and an indidvidual on my own time.


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Not following you round Kelly... Honest.

I supose it is the celebrity mad culture that I really cant understand.

In the UK football is the most important thing on earth.
A million a week for kicking a ball.
I understand the poletics of it but...

And yeah... Poleticians.
How can you tell they are LYING... Their lips are moving.
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jerry12x @ Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:40 pm wrote:
And yeah... Poleticians.
How can you tell they are LYING... Their lips are moving.
Pinched that one.


..and it works beautifully. LMAO


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I always fealt that I was part of the team when in uniform



Not I.  I was usually getting hauled off by the team when I was in uniform with my arms wrapped around my back.  I got a lot of "time outs" on the bench.  What type of bus transported you folks back and forth from event to event ?   My bus was pretty spacious.  I got to lay down, but the bars on the bus windows made it tough to enjoy the scenery while traveling  :(

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:35 pm 
Without the assistance of recording technology most of them would sound dreadful (some of them sound dreadful even WITH the recording technology at work!)  The people that market and foist them upon us probably deserve even more money than the artists involved.


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People will pay a lot of money (or support the practice of paying someone a lot of money) to be well entertained.  For some, its thru music, others sports.... etc.  I think what people get paid in those industries can be waaaaaaaaay over the top ..... but they entertain us, and as long as we are willing to pay the price, it'll continue.  

Personally, I'd like to see more emphasis placed on the value of the "contribution to society" that someone provides .... and see compensations based on that, vs. just entertainment ... i.e., social service workers, teachers, researchers, etc ....


But its not how it works in this world....  :roll:

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Shotgun CC @ Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:32 am wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see more emphasis placed on the value of the "contribution to society" that someone provides .... and see compensations based on that, vs. just entertainment ... i.e., social service workers, teachers, researchers, etc ....


I second that Cindy.


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I just finished a very entertaining little book called Bang Your Head: the Rise and Fall of Heavy Metal.

Image is obviously very important in all areas of music, and heavy metal is no exception.  Many of the bands profiled in the book were composed of musicians and singers who weren't that great, and in many cases they knew it and succeeded in spite of it, or I guess you could argue because of it.  What built a following and sold albums wasn't technical proficiency or polish, but attitude and image.  In most cases, the record executives neither liked nor understood the music, and because of that it took them a long time to warm up to the idea of marketing heavy metal bands.  The early heavy metal bands built up their followings by constant touring

Of course, once those types of bands started to succeed, the record companies fell all over themselves trying to sign them, often without much regard to which ones were good (and I realize "good" is a relative concept).  However, in the 80s especially, the money was rolling in anyway while everyone was riding the MTV-fueled heavy metal wave.  People made millions.

Unfortunately the money was often frittered away by putting it all back into the next tour, which of course had to be bigger and flashier than the last one, and when interest in metal started to decline the overhead was greater than the revenue and the projects became financial disasters.  The musicians often ended up with nothing because they blew their money on drugs, assuming it would keep rolling in forever.

It didn't.  Rap and Nirvana came along and MTV moved away from metal.  Kinda sad, really, although I guess if you hate heavy metal you could consider it poetic justice.

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