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Very interesting article...  I didn't say that midi music is crap, but I still think that CDGs are better because they can have vocals.

Jerry, I believe that midi music can sound as good, if not better, than real instruments with today's technology.  I happen to own a Technics Ensemble Digital Piano which can produce just about any sound that you can imagine.  I am not really a great piano player, but I bought it for my kids who are learning piano.  I have downloaded midi music and have been playing it on the piano.  I tell you... the sound is just being in a concert.  Here is a link to the Panasonic's Sound Demos:

http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_elect ... ddemos.asp

Cheers.

Why can't it have vocals?  We're talking sampled sound now not FM synth.  I think the discussion is getting rather far a field.  As someone noted earlier, Midi is the trigger protocol and has very little to do with the resulting sound.  Sure you can use it to do movie sound tracks, they have been for years.  A lot of the backing tracks on the CDGs I'm sure are midi controled sounds but, you basic KJ or home user just doesn't have a big budget sampler sitting around.  So midi for all intents and purposes of karaoke is that tinny little noise you get when you click a *.mid file.

Sorry about the duplicate post.

I think we are talking about apples and oranges here. There are two types of MIDI we are talking about. What you are talking about is using MIDI in a studio to produce music that can be used in a movie or recording studio. The final product is a music file that has to be distributed widely in a form of CD, MP-3 or some other format.

When people are using MIDI in a karaoke, the current method that I know of relies on the instrument files that resides in side a PC or a Karaoke player. The final distribution format is in MIDI format, which to me sounds as good as the machine that plays it.

People who attend karoake bringing their own disc will bring a disc full of CD+G format and the machine will play it and it will sound as good as the original creator. If they bring a MIDI disc, it will sound only as good as the equipment it is played on. I, for one, do not bring professional MIDI to karaoke gigs and 99.9% KJs I know do not either. If that is the case, you just can not create that sound you are talking about at a karaoke event.

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Thanks JDrifter,
I recently listened to some Sound Choice tracks.
Not popular here because were not that into country music.
What I mean is we could buy say 10 disks and know maybe 8 tracks.

Thaught they were absolutely tremendous.
Knocked the spots off Sunfly, Legends and what I've heard of Zoom.
(although a post in one of the topics said they were good) need to hear more.
I was so impressed, they are the only ones I want to buy.

Yes. guess your right mate.

[quote="exweedfarmer @ Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:46 pm
 So midi for all intents and purposes of karaoke is that tinny little noise you get when you click a *.mid file.[/quote]

Like EELVIS said on a previous post.
He uses midi files of tracks not published on CDG at some functions.
They are not perfect, but they sound good.

I want to do similar, but for mainstream use. eg
Tina Turner's  Back where you started. Cant find it on CDG
Erasure  Crown of thorns. Cant find it on CDG
(oops... they were 80's tracks)
I want to have the ability to give what other KJ's cant.
My cdg's will be on my laptop with .kar files.
I have a small midi sound module.
I DO NOT WANT MIDI TO REPLACE CDG's

Sound Choice is my choice among the brands.  When I pull up a list of songs, I usually type the title and then SC, which typically lists the Sound Choice songs.  If I don't have Sound Choice, I simply remove the word SC to list the other brands.  Sound Choice produces not just country music, but other genres as well.  ChartBuster CDGs are also great, but they are more into country music.

JDrifter, checked out your link, I have been used to
choral, but some of those vox were impressive.
Wonder haw far they will take that.
The implications are frightening.
One day it will probably happen.
A number 1 hit from a computer.
One musician and no singers.
Thing is, in our lifetime we have seen technology
advance too fast for it not to happen.
Think I feel sick. Dont find that exciting.

Yo Perry mate,
Please comment on my last link.
I hold you in high esteem.
Value your input.

Sorry, I ment post... not link

Well...Yeah, it's very, very impressive.  As a musician (who will probably never play in public again because I'm just too flipping old and tired) I think it's a wonderful advancement.  It's a neat toy and I want it.

But, as a KJ I don't see a use for it at my end.  I have used some midis in shows that were darn good even just using Synth if somebody just had to sing it and I couldn't get the disk before the show.  But I wouldn't make a steady diet of Midis using synth, samples may be a different thing.

I also agree that Sound Choice has the best sound over all, but they are being nasty to computer based KJs in the US so I'm extending to them my warmest and most heart-felt finger and not buying their disks.  Karaoke is about the party not the background music so I don't see that which version you play makes a whole lot of difference.

actually it does in my opinion. One song two different versions by two diff companies can equal a major headache. I cant quite think of an example off the top of my head but there are songs I cannot sing if they are not the arrangement I am used to.

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Certainly you are entitled to your opinion.  But ask yourself, "if I was having a great time at the local pub, would I walk out because the KJ didn't have the right version of the song I wanted to sing?"  I suspect your answer would be, "Of couse not!  I'll just pick another song."

you are obviously not a redhead

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in all seriousness, I judged a karaoke competition middle of last year and was asked to sing, I declined because the bulk of the selection was sunfly

I dislike em I dont sing em and I wasnt about to get up and sound worse than the folk I was judging by trying to sing versions I wasnt familiar with

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Wow!  All that and you're a redhead, too?

*cowers behind the DJ booth* (don't hurt me!)

heya bunny hows you today?  :hug:

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Nope, not a readhead.  I opened the box where I keep most of my hair and it is definately not red.  Good guess!

If someone asks me to sing I usually let them pick the song and if they decline will open the book at random, point somewhere on the page and put that song up no matter what it is. Usually I get away with it, but sometimes.... then everything but my hair is red.