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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:00 pm 
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Johnny Echo @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:58 pm wrote:
I think Y is a chick.... LMAO


I think Echo has tadies on his back   LMAO  LMAO


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Listener Y @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:00 pm wrote:
Johnny Echo @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:58 pm wrote:
I think Y is a chick.... LMAO


I think Echo has tadies on his back   LMAO  LMAO


She's gooooooooood........ LMAO


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hey and you forgot a chick must always have the last say :)

Actually JJ for the moment I would like to wave my wand and make you an honorary chick

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milo @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:13 pm wrote:

hmmm...and who is that REALLY scares ya?  huh?


Nobody g/f... absolutely nobody:)

(Well, as long as Keith is not around. He's about the only one who could make me stutter in my responses... dang, but he was good at dishing it out)  LMAO


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gosh darn where is keith when ya need a really really good debate about chauvinism :shock:

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MorganLeFey @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:05 pm wrote:
hey and you forgot a chick must always have the last say :)

Actually JJ for the moment I would like to wave my wand and make you an honorary chick


I am a chick, Morgan....fortunately......I'm a Lesbian...... :D


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well thats ironic just when I am looking to turn heterosexual

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MorganLeFey @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:15 pm wrote:
well thats ironic just when I am looking to turn heterosexual


it's always a good idea to keep your options open..... :)


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but dont forget to keep this thread alive and appease the karaoke gods we must include scrolling lyrics in this thread

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:22 pm 
also........never opt for an adadictomy.......... LMAO


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i say we stop critiquing, ratings, and comments....just sub ur song and let it sit there, sounds like fun....we all know that whether the person asked for a critique r not, when someone leaves a comment not to someone liking, there's a fight, so do away with the comments all together....

i for 1 believe critiques r needed here...if handled right, and there lies the tricky part,  how to make a site work that has a critique......

i don't have the answer but i do believe it's needed here....so much help is here for those that want it, if we can learn how to get it to those, including me that needs it without fighting...

this reminds me of restaurants where there's non smoking sections and smoking sections...the non smokers r allowed in the smokers area but the smokers aren't allowed in the non smokers area....

same here, if u r not the 1 that puts ur C on ur songs why worry about it, stay in ur area, which would be WITHOUT the C.....those who allow the C....let them fight it out....if u don't agree with the C....being here then don't deal with it, ignore it and those that ask for it....i do believe there's room for people who want critiques and those who don't....but it seem the ones that don't r stepping into the ones that want it's  area...in turn adding to the fire....

just stay in the non smoking section....JMO....Billy


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lights up a durry and hands it to Billy

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I agree with getting rid of aspects that have been sources of altercations in Karaoke Scene.  Highest on that list is Critique category currently existing in Singer's Showcase.  Perhaps put benefits of "rank" up to a SS participant POLL as well.  This  means folks such as myself would have no say, and no vote in a poll regarding axing or keeping these categories in SS.. Those of us that don't sub in SS, really should have no say in what WE feel is beneficial in such a capacity. While we might have opinions based on being old-timers in here, and having seen alot, and while we attempt to help, I feel a poll regarding aspects of SS should ONLY be left to those of you that actively participate in SS..

To keep things fair, perhaps a poll should be written up among participants and phrased not in a way as to how people INDIVIDUAL feel regarding the "C" category, however whether or not they feel in such a site the "C" category has been BENEFICAL OVERALL to the site. Sure some like the category, but some that like the category, (or most that can go either way) also recognise the problems ensuing as a result of few being able to handle a "Critique", hence comments alone should suffice, perhaps after a chill period those that wish for critique can type out in their description box... "I would really wish for you to critique me", however that must be deliberately asked for. If group votes to ax the category, there will no longer be such an easily accessible category to exploit.  

Etc..  yadda yadda blab and so-on etc etc...

See if the group of all participants feels as majority vote, that SS would be a more harmonious environment without creating a competitive possible source of friction such as "C" and rank.  Whether or not the problem IS or IS NOT the category vs those that can't handle it.... That's moot... Problem is..OVERALL, are the aforementioned categories where the problems are coming from that at one time or another affect most.

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MUSIC CAN BE FUN without competition.  Sharing can exist without casting judgement on others performance...

(plus I stole this from Charmin because I need to boost the membership in this thread)   ..


Plus, on a personal note, the cut-throat, competing aspects of an art CAN (when not kept in perspective) ruin an individuals love of the art.  Competition, and business crap in music nearly killed my love of the only thing in life I've steadily enjoyed throughout.  People can share without a heirarchy of who's best, and whether or not I or you need to improve, and why..  Historically over and over again, it's been proven that FEW really want a Critique, and few want to be a horrid 9.1 amongst a group where everyone else is 9.8 - 10++++++++++++++

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errr kappy we hijacked this thread for plungers

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I tend to agree with Billy's perspective too of course  LOL    Thing is, what do you do when TOO many lose perspective of what this is really supposed to be about, get caught up in vicious competition, and don't even know what the heck the term "C" even means AND don't care to learn about the process either because it defeats fantasy aspects they wish to derive from the SS experience rather than true rank and Critique.  Not all of course, just too many.  Ax "Critique" in the "sing for fun category" (as has been stated) and keep it to comments only, or just Listen no comments.. OR..a person can overtly type this sentence...
"Please Critique me, I can take it"...

Better yet...

They should tell us what they want us to critique !!   Not just a general
"Please critique me"....  but Specifically ask for what you want as part of the description of your song.. State your specific wishes... Don't ask others to throw eggs at you...  "Critique me",  "throw eggs".. has there been much of a difference in SS ?  In terms of application and interpretation of the process ?


(Maybe they should have to type it ten times to prove they are likely in sound mind and lucid, and really mean what they say)   :shock:

Please critique me
I CAN handle it
I Can handle it
I REALLY do want you to Critique me
Yes, I do want a Critique
No really, I'm not joking, I do
Please Critique me
I can handle a Critique

PART TWO:  Are you sure you want this critique ?

Yes I can handle a critique
Please critique me
I can deal with it
Yes I want a critique
etc...


Voila !!   THat's ALL there is to this !  See how easy it can be ?

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MorganLeFey @ Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:05 pm wrote:
lights up a durry and hands it to Billy



heyyyy, he's going to quit!  don't egg him on....and now that i've nagged him to death, i might just start on you!   :whistle:

ok, back to plungers....errrrrr critiques... :roll:


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you know my thoughts babe no need to repeat myself, I shall continue to sub under C in the hope someone will come up with suggestions as to how I could improve. Of course they have to be able to suggest a way of changing bad habits if that is the cause.
I dont think I have ever subbed where I havent thanked someone even for negative comments

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Perhaps if the process goes to group vote (assuming admin allows that), and the group agrees by vote to keep the process. A clause should be written in description of Critique category...


DISCLAIMER:
"This category is wanted by the majority of our membership. Asking for a Critique DOES NOT mean you are going to get a qualified critique you like. If you can't filter the  comments you should ignore from  the constructive comments, DO NOT complain about this category in here, or on the forum bboards. You have the option to NOT submit in this category. This category is for the mature individual that can take what comes their way when they submit for critique in an amateur venue.  Do not expect an erudite pro-instructor level of objectivity and presentation in here.  Most that are commenting can't even spell or pronounce the term "Critique". Again,  FEW are professionals, and some individuals might hurt your feelings".  This category is contraindicated for those with hypertension, cardiac arrhythmias, glaucoma, and those taking certain psychotropic medications should consult their physician prior to submitting to this category.  "Lab studies in rats have not proven conclusive as to possible long-term affects of submitting in this category"

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ya sounds good to me  LMAO
and the moment someone responds in a snipey way they are forever doomed never to sub under C

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errr kappy we hijacked this thread for plungers


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and must be filed with the AMA statistically regarding adverse side-affects !

Oh yeah,  one other question.  I wonder what administration feels regarding these categories.  It's their site.  Perhaps all this complaining is moot anyway because this whole topic isn't contestable anyway.  If this is the case, there shouldn't be any whining because people that join are joining an already established site that has set categories that aren't up for discussion, or going to change, there is a reason for this layout that supercedes a few members personal likes perhaps ?  Administration feels it's appealing, and the pros outweigh the cons perhaps from other perspectives or powers that be ?..  Although we talk about these aspects ALL the time, ARE THEY up to democratic vote ?  or is this how administration wants the site to be ?  Assuming this is the case,  these threads, and all comparable threads regarding rank and critique are just folks getting aggrevated over something that will not change.   I'm curious as to what's up with this. Is this up to the members to determine or even discuss at all regarding amending SS layout ?

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