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Scenario I - You have a hard drive show
Your original disks are lost/stolen/destroyed.  You replace every disc that you can, but some are irreplaceable because:
  a) they have been discontinued by manufacturers who are still in business
  b) they are no longer available because the manufacturer is out of business
Do you continue to include the tracks you cannot replace in your hard drive show? And if so, is that for both cases?

Scenario II - You are playing a customer's illegal disk at your show when the gestapo shows up and confiscates your rig.  You had no idea if the disk was legal or not.  Who's responsible for knowing that the disk was truly illegal and who is responsibile for that illegal performance?

Scenario III - Someone you know has a lot of the same karaoke tracks you have on their hard drive.  You would like to copy those tracks to your hard drive, so you can save the time necessary to do so from scratch.  However, their tracks are from a different Karaoke Manu than yours.  Wouldn't it be alright, in order to save time, to simply copy their tracks to your hard drive?  You've indeed paid for the tracks you have.  In doing so, the manu you bought from paid royalties to the record company; it was just a different karaoke manu than the one who produced the tracks you will end up with on your hard drive.  Same publishers and composers!

Scenario 1. It would be illegal to use backups of discs you no longer had!

2.) A customer disc is not what your show is based on. Your show is based on how you yourself operate. If some authority shows up, they talk to the owner of the disc... as you said, you have NO way of knowing who's is what. If you listen to the karaoke manus, however, using a copied disc even as a customer handing it to you, it's no longer covered by the Fair Use Act... so maybe there IS a legal standpoint to them busting YOU.

3.) No, as they're different versions... and you'd have access to versions that technically the payment wasn't paid for those discs.

I agree with your evaluation, Knightshow.  Perhaps others have a different opinion?

I am in agreement with Knoghtshow too.

And to EXPAND on #3

Even if you both had the same exact disc from the same exact mfg, it would be illegal for you to use you freinds ripped tracks for PRIVATE use.  You must rip them yourself from your discs.

And for Comercial use it is illegal to use ripped track, no matter if they were from your originals, or from your freind.

how would you PROVE it Anthony?

If I have on my hard drive SC8125... and have the physical disc in my collection, what difference does it make where you originally have the tracks from?

I dunno, but that is the law, or at least it was the law last time I checked.  You would have to ask the idiots who made the law if how you can prove it.