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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:34 pm 
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During the past week I have been offered three different gigs.
First place-small bar/restaurant, only seats about 50 folks max. It's about the size of a railroad car, long and narrow. I would have to set up back in the area where they now have their dart machines. But the area is big enough for my rig and it's out of everybody's way. They agreed to my price and we set up a date. They want me to start next weekend, both nights. They want it to be a permanent thing asking would I stay even after the boating/tourist season started in the area.

My thoughts. I went in Friday night to check out the crowd and I honestly don't think that they're the kinda crowd that's really gonna want to hear Karaoke. They're a very laid back bunch, the place is nice and quite, just folks sitting around drinking beer talking to friends. Very content I might add. Also while I was there, I gave some flyers to the barmaid, who handed some of them out to the customers. First question-since the place is so small, where are you going to have it set up. The barmaid pointed out to the main floor over by the entrance to the place. When I ask here about what she had said, she told me the owner had said just that day that she didn't want me setting up where I had planned, she wanted me out on the main floor. Which is something only an idiot would think of. If I set up on the main floor, they have to move table, not just to the side but off the floor completely. It would be across from the rest rooms and right next to the only entrance to the place. So I don't know what she was thinking, especially since she didn't bother to fill me in on the change. But it's her bar, her decision, but it's also my decision to decide if I want my equipment out in a heavily trafficked area. So we'll see. Another thing, it's gonna be a 50 mile round trip and I'll have to break down my equipment and haul it each night because the place is so small there's no way I can or would leave it set up til the next night.

Anyway, next bar- I was heading back home, when I remembered that there was also another small bar that I had heard about doing Karaoke. I went in, and this place is even smaller than the one I had just left. I knew most of the folks in there so I felt right at home unlike the previous bar I had been in where I'm suppose to play.
Well they've got this jackarse up singing at the top of his lungs in the most tonedeaf manner I've ever heard. I sat down ordered a coke and ask the barmaid, where's the Karaoke guy, and she says, that's him singing. Well he keeps on singing, and he keeps on singing, finally he takes a break thank goodness. The only problem is, he never bothered to let anyone that had requested to sing come up. I ask him if he had a book I could look through......he didn't have but one book that he kept up with him and it was listed by disc....jeeze. The song request were written on bar napkins. Anyway, I check out his system, it's a mess. He had this Radio Shack looking amp/mixer with a couple of 12's hooked up to it and his sound was terrible. He was using some machine I had never heard of or seen before made by SonicSound or something like that. I go back to the bar and all my buddies are razzing me about that guy being my major competition, which kinda made me feel uncomfortable because that's not why I go out to Karaoke. I mean of course I check out other peoples stuff, but more out of curiosity than competition. Well the guy finishes his break and he comes back and starts singing again. Finally someone spoke up and ask him to let someone else sing for a change. The guy acted like he actually got ticked off about it. So he picks up a napkin and calls out a name and this gal goes up. He puts on the song and actually walks away from his setup. I'm just sitting there dropjawed at this point. So I ask the bartender/manager, how much are you paying this guy, and she tells me 25 bucks and a bartab. And I'm like, well you get what you pay for. So she ask me how much I charge and I tell her. Her immediate response is, 'we can't afford that' and I'm like, well how much business do you have to lose before you can afford it....LOL I mean this guy is not gonna draw in business, he's gonna run it off. He's got a crappy attitude, crappy equipment, no song selection to speak of, how did you find this guy. She said that he was a friend of a friend...and the only reply I could think of was, 'well you should bar them both just on general principals'. Even she had to laugh about that. So she finally said, tell you what, let me know of a night you have off and I'll get you in here and we'll see how it works.

My thoughts-anyone who would let some clown like that play in the first place has very poor business sense. The place is so small, there's no way they could get enough people in spending enough money to pay for me much less make any money for the bar. The gesture was nice and appreciated, but I think I'll have to pass, unless I just get really bored or have a panic attack and feel I need to punish myself for some past sin I've committed.

Third place-We're back at the Boatdock that tried having me on Wednesday nights, but because there wasn't an immediate result, they declined to continue the shows.
I've been playing there anyway on Fridays and of course the crowds have been much better. The problem was, that he stage is out on a deck, which they have covered now, but with it being so cold it's like a freezer even with the heaters going.
So what they did, was take one corner of the inside restaurant and cleared it out so I could play the Christmas party. The corner has a partition around it, so you're not actually on the floor with the customers, you have something to separate you, which I like. I mean it just keeps folks from walking through your area and away from the equipment and the person who's up singing. Well the Christmas party went over so well that the guy ask me if I wanted to finish out the winter indoors like I had setup that night. We agreed on a price which was a bit less than what I normally get, but hey it's winter around here, so you gotta take the best offer you can get.

My thoughts- It's in my town, only 20 mins. from where I live. I can leave my equipment set up for the next night since it's not actually in the dining area. Like I said, the price is a bit less, but it's less of a drive. I don't have to break down and load each night. And of course the same people that had been coming out to see me at Terrace View now come there when I play. In fact they even call in advance to make sure I'm gonna be there.
The future of Terrace View restaurant is still up in the air and I wont know if they're even gonna open back up until spring. I really like playing at T.V. but I have to be realistic and look at things from a bigger picture. The boatdock does a killer business in the summer, and we've already agreed that when the regular season starts I would go back up to my seasonal rate.

But anyways, I've rambled enough about all of this. Like I said it's either feast or famine, such is the life in a small town. What I would like from you folks if you feel inclined is some feedback, thoughts, or suggestions. I'm in a good position right now, I mean how many of us can have our pick of places to play. But I do want to make the right choice. So if you have any thoughts on this, please feel free to share.
Oh and if any of you would like to relocate, I've got plenty of work for you, but of course I'm gonna cheery pick the best for myself... ;)
Thanks for your time,

James the Lion Hearted
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P.S. please understand I don't bring all this up to rub it in the faces of folks that are looking for other gigs in more saturated areas. What I hope is that you understand that you have to seize the moment and get it while you can. Things could turn the other way in a moments notice. There are no guarantees, but there are opportunities and we should take advantage of each and every one of them.
I value all of your comments now just as much as I did when I first came here.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:20 am 
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LOL  LOL  LOL  Very entertaining!! I was choking about the jackarse. LMAO

Sounds like you have it going on James. Good luck to you man!

Gotta go to work now. :wave:


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Well I would say go with the close one!! Although its a little less pay..if you think about the time it takes to put your equipment up and tear it down I think you actually come out ahead.Plus if they are willing to go to normal pay once the season starts, sounds like a win, win to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:45 am 
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glad to hear there are options for you!  go get 'em, J-man!

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I think I would stay close to home James.  May be less pay, but; sounds like a "better" place.  being by the water I think it will be a better summer venue.  the other place sounds a little to small.

Right now I only work at the one place. Jimmy D's.  Wed & Sat night.  It's 60 miles from home.  So I know what you mean about time taking to tare down and pack up.  However it pays very well.  I will be completing 5 years there next month.  I have given lots of thought to finding a place closer to home.

My son is a salesmen for Budweiser now. So, he is in a perfect opportunity to see all the bars in an area closer to home; so he has been passing out my cards.  I will soon be doing what you are doing and taking some time going to these places and see "what's out there."

I'm not sure if I want to add any other nights right now.  I gave up my Monday's at the place I'm at simply because of having a full time time job.  Leaving Jimmy D's sometimes at 2:30 and not getting home til 3:30 and then being in the office at 7:30 makes Kelly a tired puppy some days.  Fortunately, my wife drives for me and is my "Book Nazi" as she has been funnily referred to.

Sorry to have "robbed" James thread with my details.   I get carried away once in a while myself.

If it works out James, it's nice to have one place that you can "call home" and that place becomes known "because" of you.  Keep up the good work.

Kelly :)


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James,

I'm glad to know that there are prospects for you since the marina is done for the season. Believe it or not I was actually concerned that you might not have the choices that you now have. You seem like quite an entertainer and Gigi and I want to visit your show sometime. It's good to know that there will be a show to visit if we ever get that chance.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:48 am 
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Thanks for the feedback folks, I think we're pretty much on the same page with the comments. I opted to stay with the Boat Dock, like I said it's closer, show much more future potential and puts me in an atmosphere that I think would be open to Karaoke in the long term.
I did call the other bar owners, with the first call being to the bar that wanted me to hire on permanent. I had to be honest with her, from my viewpoint, the crowd was very content to sit in the quite, drink their beer and have conversation with friends. I mean while I was there, I didn't even hear the jukebox play once. I'm of the mind, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Personally, yeah I could go take their money, but I think the crowd she has there now would more than likely go elsewhere to look for another quite place.
And I certainly don't want to be blamed for running off folks, even though it would be no fault of my own. Some folks just like having a 'speakeasy' place they can go to.
But anyway, thanks again for your comments and support, I really appreciate it.

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The 1st place you describe seems like it would be better suited for a "Mr. October" type of 1 man show singing some softer songs and entertaining the current customer base.

I look for consistency and longevity when deciding on any new gigs.
I learned this that hard way when I quit a good gig for one that paid more.
The owner of the new bar was an idiot like most and I ended up leaving.
Lucky for me I was able to get my previous gig back without any hard feelings.  

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jamkaraoke @ Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:48 pm wrote:
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The 1st place you describe seems like it would be better suited for a "Mr. October" type of 1 man show singing some softer songs and entertaining the current customer base.  

I look for consistency and longevity when deciding on any new gigs.  
I learned this that hard way when I quit a good gig for one that paid more.  
The owner of the new bar was an idiot like most and I ended up leaving.  
Lucky for me I was able to get my previous gig back without any hard feelings.  

Good luck !!!


Well I have a friend of mine that does a one man show, he plays guitar and sings with his background music on a laptop. He's more along the lines that would fit this place better since most of his show is laidback blues with some classic rock. I think it would be a better fit, than me trying to work a non-responsive crowd, he can just play in the background and I think folks will like it fine. I've worked with this guy in the past and we've covered for each other on gigs when ever our schedules allowed.

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I think you made a good choice staying close to home and having the option of not tearing down some nights. I have turned down higher paying jobs because of the amount of travel time and the headache of tearing down. When I first started I did a lot of traveling. I never want to go back to that again if I don't have too. Your body starts taking a toll after a while from all the setting up and tearing down. Good luck !

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i think you made up your mind long before you finished writing your "dilemma". did i spell that right?

i believe you should go with your gut...seems the first two places, although being small, just didn't feel right for you...that should go a long way to your decision...


joy5022003 hit it right when talking about going to regular price when the normal season starts.

good luck to ya man.  shoot, waterfront show!! dang.  in texas we just got nuttin!!

have fun dude...

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