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Morgan,
Due to the extent of the written word on forums like this, you can never really get the feeling of tone & inflection of what somebody's opinion is. You are entitled to your opinion as much as I am entitled to mine, so can we agree to disagree without the name calling and flaming?

I am not better than anybody else here and never have claimed it. As for the "holier than thou opinion", I like to give an educated and well thought out response before hitting the submit button, is that a crime?

"Pack mentality", hmmm........ is it bad when a group of people from different backgrounds & parts of the country/world can come together and AGREE on a subject to be called a "pack mentality"?



So what's your excuse?


I play nice, share ideas with anyone that has an open mind and I try to stick to any forum rules.... but I think you need to go back and re-read THIS forums rules, especially the one about flaming.


Have a nice day.......

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Geez, looks like a bunch of butt whuppins are in order here. Line up guys:)

If you all notice, I didn't cast my vote either, I don't get in the middle of these things..... neither here OR over in the showcase.

Sure BigDog can be annoying as hell, but so can we all. It's just too dang easy to ignore people if you wish. (I'm a mother and wife.... so "tuning someone out" when I want to comes naturally to me)  :D

I personally, would never cast a vote to ban someone. Not for reasons like his attitude anyhow. If we all banned someone each time we got in a tizz, I'd have been gone LONG ago.... I've ticked off more than one person here. (twans should remember... it was him once)  LOL  Keith could vouche for it, BeachHeadBum could (oh wait, he DID get banned... not cause of me though), SyberChick could vouch for it, and some others who I wont mention in public, but who would most likely STILL love to see me gone. (they'll get their wish shortly though)  :)

Anyhow, I didn't want to take a side in this. I hate taking sides, and if/when I do, I'm normally on the side of the little guy..... I don't like to see a pack against one.  :no:  But the times I've tried to put in a nice word for someone when this pack mentality is going on, it bites me in the A$$.

So count me out. I don't care if he goes, I don't care if he stays. Hell, I wont be around much to care anyhow. But I wont cast a vote, either way.



Or maybe I'm siding with Steve, cause he's a big guy and the one person here I'm skeered of?  :wink:  (don't start acting too tough Steve, I was kiddin')



Michael, I've been pretty certain of that..... for a long time now:)



Jesse, I'm not completely gone YET..... soon, but not yet. I start at 1:00, that gives us a few more hours.  LOL
And silly man, I TOLD you..... you can NOT replace me, ever,  I'm one of a kind:)



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Can't we all get along?????????

Sorry, it had to be said.

Did I get frustrated at BD? Yeah. By the time I had come back to this site after a while of being off, I was greeted with a put down from BD.

I do not think he should have been banned, but he did need to be taken down a few notches.

I think we will all disagree from time to time, but that is what makes this interesting and fun. If we all agreed it would be too boring. Maybe it's time to move on and let this topic die on it's own....

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Now you too are choosing sides.  If someone is good, they can go on about it as long as it's useful information.  But when it becomes the "I'm the best" "You are all hacks" "My equipment is best" "Anyone that doesn't do pure karaoke sucks", repeatidly to ad nauseum, it gets kind of old.  Most people are here to learn & to hear all sides of others views, not to hear a bunch of crap stating that his view is the only correct & everyone else sucks...which is basically what he was saying in MANY of his posts.



That's great, some of us would be out of business if we ran PURE karaoke, your area obviously still wants it, other areas want dance music & other things as well.  This is what he couldn't grasp.  I too would love pure karaoke shows, but the demand around here is MUCH lower for it, so many places that have stayed pure karaoke are changing for their customers to add dance sets or dropping karaoke altogethers.  But if you were to give advice, that would be what it was, you wouldn't repeatidly state that it needed to be YOUR way or you were considered a hack.



Again, posting experiences are fine, but when they become attacks on the members...calling them hacks & unprofessional when he himself couldn't even show a general area as to where someone could see his show is childish.  Nothing wrong with expressing opinion, just don't put others down repeatidly in so doing!



He did have valid points, but his delivery is what screwed him.  But his mind was so closed to what he believed to be true that other points from other members weren't even considered...he resorted to calling them unprofessional hacks...where is the point being made?  Backstabbers/undercutters have been in existence in every industry ever since the history of the world.  Nothing is going to stop it & technology today is only making it worse for the entire karaoke industry, absolutely nothing can be done about that.  Eventually manufacturers are just going to quit making music.




Obviously you don't read all the posts or just the ones you wanted.  OVER half of his posts were putting others ways that they run their shows down as unprofessional hacks.  C'mon, anyone that uses a stage is unprofessional?  Anyone that uses lights is doing it as a distraction because they can't run a real show?  Anyone that uses wired mics are too cheap to get real mics?  Yes these were all stated & just a couple out of the MANY that he put down others with...yet he can't even hook his system up correctly & again claims that his is better than everyones elses.  THAT is the kind of responses that would come from childish (me me me) behavior & NOT professionals!  So please don't come in here saying that our wanting him banned is unprofessional, unless that is the mentality you'd prefer to see, his holier than thou attitude.  Look at me, look at me, but never can find me.

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has BD Mark actually been banned?

bye pghpat

BD has not been banned. Hitting the ban button to me was just to send him a message to calm down a bit. It takes 50 ban votes for the administration to merely look at banning him. He may get 50 ban votes, but that still doesn't mean he's banned. It is ultimately the administrations decision.

I don't think some people probably read all the posts in the forum everyday. I read most all of them in the discussion forum, but not the tech room.  BD has called me names in the past, but the cheap bas-turd comment was over the top. Most people that know my posts know I try to be fair. When I tried to give BD the benefit of the doubt he got nastier. The name calling is what gets under my skin. By the way, I don't think Gigi is over baked either.

BD did fill an interesting spot on the forum. When he was around everyone attacked him because he basically deserved it and in some warped way liked it. Now that he isn't around we are attacking each other instead.  :O

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I was hoping the name calling would end when BigDog got the message, nope. THere are plenty of people who are will to do it.


Oh Freakin well!

I guess I still have a lot more to learn about forums. It's ok to call people anything under the sun but it's not ok to vote to ban them.

No, not being dramatic. There is no other way to say this.


I'm walkin' on eggshells, whoa-ho
and don't it feel good.

Before I go any farther-  place your cursor on the topic we are on now~~~after you sign in and go to the discussion forum~~
Does it use profanity~~ is it something you would ban?  I know I would.  I do not know who started something that someone also took off of here, but it is not in the posts.  yet you can read it if you place the cursor on the topic.  I am glad that some people on here realized how dumb all of his was, and that you guys actually miss the adrenalin rush BigDog gave you.
From PghPat- Has BD Mark actually been banned? Aren't you the one from the very beginning that wanted to destroy him.  Then came back after one of his shows and applauded the way he ran Karaoke?
And TTowntenor-  You are putting me down, but I take no offense.  And would not put you down for it.  BUT  How would you know if BigDog sets his equipment up right, or hooks it up correctly.  You have no idea where he even is.  Where did you get your information?  Are you not the one that says he/she won't come out of hiding?  And has given websites where you think he/she may be?
I listened to you, read what you had to say TTowntenor, and I still believe all of this is just pure revenge.  
I have to go with the 90% of the posters that it is just a website for fun,
new ideas, conversation, and most of all just pure pleasure to converse with one another, whether agreeable or not.  But most of all, just plain fun.  That is why I guess, I read more than I post.  So TTowntenor~~yes I do read, I just don't take eveything to heart.  I am good at reading and not judging!!!!!!!!!!!!

After I just posted this I realized I asked all of you to go back and see the last post.  Now after I have posted, (how dumb of me) you can't do that.  Dumb, really dumb blonde. Anyway, I read Chuck2's post.  Where he has the fowl words bleeped out in in his reply to the post, (the one before me) they were not bleeped out in the post under the discussion forum.  The "f#$^ word was very obvious on there.  No problem tho, heard worse, seen worse, spoke as bad at some point in my life.  We all have done all of that.   Not picking on you Chuck 2.  Didn't even realize it was your post.

if saying that I might know who Mark was, which is what i said from the beginning, is destroying him, then i guess i'm guilty. but he gave out so much info here it was pretty easy to figure out who he was. just as i have a pretty good idea who you are from the info you've posted. i never said anything negative about the way he runs his shows. but he treats his crowd totally different than the way he treats the people here. it seems he's a lot different in public than he is in private. bye pghpat

If what you say is true, then he knew the difference in acting "accomodating" & "respectful", as opposed to acting like he did here. A lot of people here might've wished he used that "good" persona on the forum. He chose to be who he is on the site, personality-wise, but I would hate to think he could've been more of a likeable asset here, as opposed to, well you know.... BD.

I can see both sides of the debate going on lately, but hey... he pretty much had his chance to be a non-button pusher on KS, and yet stayed the same, for whatever reason. Hated to see that, 'cause deep down, a few people here were probably wanting to see the "totally different" other side of BD that you were talking about. C'est La Vie.

Ok I don't see how I was putting you down in any manner, I was responding...that was it.  As far as if his equipment was set up right, well I don't know personally since he wouldn't prove any show, but I can only go by what he stated here in this & the tech forum about what equipment he has & how he set it up which is not in any manner that a professional supposedly knowing how to run sound would set it up or run it.   So basically I got all my information from the dog's mouth!  Sure I gave out info, which many people were wanting, I happened to be the one that found something that fit his demeanor & posted it, no law in that!



What revenge, all I & pretty much everyone that wanted to know was to prove his so called facts, which he never would/could do.  No revenge, just trying to prove something that he said which may/may not be accurate, but it was the closest lead to it that anyone had.



Again, if you are being put down just because of the way you run your company repeatidly because someone else thinks it's unprofessional, then you may have a change of heart.  This forum is for constructive ideas, not "it should be done like this or you are a hack" mentality...which he did, especially in his last couple months of posting.  I don't mind difference of opinion, but when people claim that how I run my business or others run theirs don't fall in with the way he runs his is unprofessional or a "hack" then yes I will step in & defend it.

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[shadow=deepskyblue]I'm impressed, I've never met such a small mind inside such a big head before.[/shadow]

I think I am the only one who like BD. In karaoke the singing is the main entertainment
In this forum BD provide the side entertainment. It will be a shame if he is ban. But, if he does he will come back as someone else.

Marks? Is taht BD real name?

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I cant say I liked him cos to like someone you have to know them, then you can make and informed choice. But Jian thank you for the sense you have in abundance that other twerps appear to lack

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I Saw that too and was shocked it was so clear,,,,lol


MrOctober = No twerp Im with ya Morgan

didnt doubt that for a moment dahlin

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I don't get offended very easily. I don't get angry very easily. Rich has known me for 20 years, Chuck for 14 and Sharon for...seven years, or so and they can vouch for that.

I got Bigdog's points most of the time and most were valid. But I got them the first time; I didn't need to hear it over and over, continually more obnoxious. I actually read his posts and yes, they got under my skin. But I was looking for some useful insights (NOT who he was or where he was; it was odd to me that he wouldn't share but hey he doesn't know us from Adam and privacy is scarce nowadays).

I thought the ban button was there for a reason. Next time I get offended, I suppose I will ban myself. Might as well say it now, it was nice knowing you. Because BD still has everyone so up-in-arms that I expect I will be out of here soon.

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Come on Vicki. Did you actually read all of Bigdog's posts? I asked you this yesterday in a PM and you refused to answer. So now you're back to name calling. Really?

Answer the question. It's a simple yes or no answer.



To kjsrbest
About the dirty word, it was censored in the actual post so I didn't know there was any way to actually read it, sorry. I fixed it.

I agree with chuck & lonman.....

In My Opinion -PGH PAT- Is The One Who Should Be Banned , And If He/She Comes Back Under A New User Name It Should Be -JUDAS-And You Know Why! If The BIGDOG Wishes To Remain ANONYMOUS That Is His Business! If You Don't Like Him Scroll Through His Posts. Is He Sarcastic? SOMETIMES...  Is He Repetitive?SOMETIMES... Is He A KARAOKE PURIST? ABSOLUTELY!... As In Any HUMAN BEING Take Whats Good About Him And Leave The Rest Pass Through. We Owe Him An APOLOGY! Having Said That , Let's Pitch In And Buy Him A CROSSOVER For Christmas! HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE! (including you judas) TOMMIE TUNES

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