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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:31 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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Don't bother, he talks a big talk but don't want to or can't prove anything TO SHUT US ALL UP! It's a game to him now, keep feeding him & he'll never leave!!!! That's what happens with stray dogs!
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:49 am |
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Not that I'll do it, but what would shut you up. And how would that prove my validity?
I walk the walk, that many others only dream of. Not a game, dead serious.
It takes money and lots of natural talent to get here.
It takes a, I'll never settle for just good enough attitude.
Your attitude determines your altitude.
It takes being able to objectively look at yourself and your situation and make the hard decisions that are dictated. I live in the real world. I can except the real world. My mind is not cluttered with drugs or alcohol. The real world is brutal.
Many are very weak.
Look at the drug addicts, the drunkards, the people that are crazy, the ones that committed suicide. Mentally weak.
Real world karaoke is brutal. As any other business. Be prepared to succeed or be prepared to fail. Miniscule investments don't hack it. Lack of talent won't hack it. Many people will never have the talent to do karaoke on a professional level. They wouldn't have the talent to do anything, on a professional level. Just because you have a machine and some discs means nothing. Hard work, artistic/musical talent, commitment and passion dictate your chances of success. Tiny investments show no passion or commitment. If you want to be successful you'll find a way to get there, no matter the cost.
Lonman, Do you seriously think everyone can do what you do? At your level? And where is your level? It's all over this board. Most can't. Most don't get the concept of what we're talking about. Not putting anyone down just looking at the real world. This is my evaluation, as I see it. You need many honed talents to be a great KJ or successful anything.
If this scares a newbie, good. It should make everyone evaluate their situation honestly. Do you have the money and the talent needed? Don't ask me, ask yourself. Can you do what it takes? Continuously? You know as well as I that many will start this as a lark. Oh... well I have nothing else to do. That won't work. Can't carry a tune in a bucket, won't work. Livingroom systems, won't work. If you want to go to a dog fight, bring a dog worthy of the fight. Reality check. Do your personal evaluation. What can you honestly do with the money, commitment and talent you have? You will have to determine if it's enough to make you fail or succeed. Many, many, many have started half a**ed karaoke business' and wasted more time and money in failure, than success. They didn't have everything they needed to pull it off. They all lacked something. They just didn't know it. Honest evaluation time could have spared them the aggravation.
Yes, there are many working hacks. They are filling a void that I don't want. Like the Mexicans taking the jobs nobody else will do. Poverty wages, no benefits, no skills. Thats the best they will ever be. A hack. I never aspired to wanting to be a hack. That's why I'm the best. That was my goal. Not an accident. All planned. I have what it takes. Don't knock me for it. If you don't have what it takes, that's OK. Find out what you can be good at. We all have a talent for something. Honest evaluation time.
I made an honest evaluation of my talents while attending Art school. I didn't have what it takes. But I made the evaluation. Nobody else did it. I could see what was going on in the real world. I would have wasted a lot of time and money. It took nine months to see it. I did learn from it, but I could never have made a living at it. I could have faked myself out and talked myself in to believing that I was a better artist than I am. I could have wasted many years in that deception. I wish I had more artistic talent than I do, but I don't. It's not my fault. But I realised it. It's not an easy thing to admit. I wasn't cut out to be an artist. Many on here are not cut out to be KJs, sorry.
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WolfMan
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:56 am |
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Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 1:56 am Posts: 624 Location: USA Been Liked: 13 times
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The only Gripe I have with Big Dog is.....I want to go to his/her karaoke show but he/her won't tell where it is so I can enjoy pure karaoke!!!! :D
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knightshow
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:18 am |
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Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:40 am Posts: 7468 Location: Kansas City, MO Been Liked: 1 time
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I hear a yipping in the background.... someone swat it with a rolled up newspaper.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:36 am |
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gahmc @ Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:52 am wrote: OK, I'm calling Bigdog out (my post my be deleted as advertising, but here goes) : My name (and meaning of screen name is") Gale Annette Horne McDuff Condrey Sheets (confused yet?) Current Legal name Gale A Sheets I work as a regular gig at The Rider's Lodge, Bay Minette, AL on Friday nights. I was raised in Winnfield, LA, though half was in Athens, TX. Most of my equipment is listed on the thread: "Just want to brag-system." I have no doubt in my ability as a Karaoke Host, and any questions I DO have, I address here, or with fellow KJs in my area. I have been asked to do several other bar locations, and several benefits. I have also filled in for a couple of local KJs as the need arose, so I know I'm at LEAST good enough in most peoples eyes. So... If you want to keep SAYING how good you are, while putting down as many people down as you can, now is your chance to add some credibility to your constant comments . (I know I said I wouldn't comment on his posts anymore; so much for my new years resolution) I may have to go into the witness protection program; any bodyguards available? (Tequila doesn't make my close fall off, Jim Beam just makes my mouth open )
Will You Marry Me........ :hug: :handshake:
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:49 am |
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Just got this word yesterday about the newbies.
The newbies heard from the bartender that they are bringing in $800-1000 more than the one speaker 15 year veteran hack KJ.
If you owned a bar who would you hire?
The $450 income drawing KJ that's been a one speaker hack her whole life or the $1200-1700 income drawing, 6 month old newbies, personally trained by the BIGDOG?
It's the reason they are now the full time KJ at the bar.
A wrong answer automatically qualifies you as a HACK.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:52 am |
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Which only proves my point about Hacks. You can be a steady working hack 15 years and never know it. How can that happen? You need to do an honest evaluation of your skills. You can B.S. yourself all you want. The truth is.... everyone else sees you as you are.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:08 am |
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The problem is ....I am not the enemy. I am not wrong on this subject.
Under funded, under skilled, under qualified hacks are the enemy.
The ones that have to under bid everyone to work, at all.
The ones that want to use one speaker, out of laziness.
The ones with shoe string systems and selections.
If you feel threatened, offended and upset by my topics and comments. You could be a KJ hack. Evaluate yourself, honestly. Compare yourself to others. Point by point.
Your investment.
Your skills.
Your singing ability.
Your attitude.
Your professionalism.
Your crowd entertaining ability.
Your reputation.
Just because I HATE HACKS doesn't make me a bad person. If you are a hack or you support hacks shows, I hate you. Every quality KJ should feel the same. They are hurting all of us, in a big way.
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kjchrisc
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:43 am |
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Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:29 pm Posts: 257 Images: 0 Location: Maryville, TN Been Liked: 1 time
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Bigdog @ Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:08 am wrote: Just because I HATE HACKS doesn't make me a bad person. If you are a hack or you support hacks shows, I hate you. Every quality KJ should feel the same. They are hurting all of us, in a big way.
According to what you consider a "hack", I can't imagine how many qualified K.J.'s you must despise on this board.
Cannot believe you actually listed "Your Attitude" as a point by point comparison for K.J.'s, considering YOUR attititude on this forum. Ex: I like the way you go from "I am not the enemy", to... "If you are a hack or support hack's shows, I hate you". A lot of anger for such a "successful" show.
You seem to be reasonably knowledgable karaoke person, but it's too bad your omnipotent-like ego takes away from your credibility. If you think it's beneath you to give people, and their ideas about karaoke, respect on this forum... then what are you even doing here? Seriously, are you THAT big on self glorification & attention... and your only retort is to avoid valid questions and use smilies... especially when you set yourself up for it?
Pretty sad. Do you act like this in real life too?
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:13 am |
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Do you know any hacks in your area? Ones that could be your direct competition? That could under cut your price? Do you know KJs that you would not recommend to someone? There are only 2 reasons you would not recommend a KJ to someone. They have a crap system or they are a jerk. You don't know any? Everyone you know is of the utmost quality?
Most KJs on here compete against 3-4-5 local KJs, some of which are hacks. In my 20 mile surrounding area, I am competeing against 100-200 KJs, most of which are hacks.
So every KJ you know, you would recommend to anyone without hesitation? No hacks to be found? Must be living in karaoke heaven.
I am the only KJ in the entire world that personally knows HACKS????? How unlucky I am. How lucky you are. Wake up.
How much do you have to know to spot a hack? Nobody.... ever saw a hack? I must have some special hack spotting talent. Maybe I attract hacks. A hack magnet. Everyone on here, would highly recommend every KJ they ever saw/heard? Totally amazing.
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timberlea
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:50 am |
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Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2002 12:41 pm Posts: 4094 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada Been Liked: 309 times
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If you're good, you don't have to worry about hacks as you call them. We don't, Lonman doesn't, and most good hosts don't. We work six nights a week and we been at our venues from 5-9 years.
Does anyone know a good vet, or even a hack?
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knightshow
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:31 am |
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Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:40 am Posts: 7468 Location: Kansas City, MO Been Liked: 1 time
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Someone needs to be put down... seeing a bit too much of foamy saliva on that last post from the little cur. Rabies... so sad!
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Texas Gigi
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:43 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:45 am Posts: 544 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Been Liked: 0 time
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Yeah, we have hacks in our area. We also have some superior KJs, some employed and some not.
What we DON'T have, because they don't last. is KJs with an attitude.
Bigdog, even if people agree with what you say, and you make valid points sometimes, your presentation sucks. Methinks your show cannot be any good. So far we only have your word for it that it is good.
I have always had a great deal of affection for your enthusiasm and energy. But here lately I find I really don't care anymore. I am not sure I want you as a representative of the professionalism of my karaoke world. I know, I know, I don't get a vote.
No, I am not currently doing a show and don't plan to in the near future; my life has taken a different path. But I am a singer. You are stuck at the venue which houses your show; I am the one that will go elsewhere when I see you.
I have learned a lot from your posts. There is no doubt that you know equipment and your audience. But part of what I have learned is how not to behave if you want to be taken seriously as a professional KJ by your peers. I am glad your audience appreciates you; that is a very, very good thing. You have ruined your reputation here.
Why should any of the KJs on this site want to be like you? Nobody strives to emulate someone they do not respect.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:55 am |
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And they called it....puppy looooo....a...a ove
But he always, seems so rude
Though his pants fit like a glo..a..a ove
He had a nasty, attitu...ude.....
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:15 pm |
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Once again this is a general response.
I am not a diplomat. I don't beat around the bush and I don't sugar coat stuff. That it like a real man/woman.
My attitude toward hacks has nothing to do with the attitude needed to be a successful KJ. You should hate hacks as much as I do. They hurt our collective reputations as KJs. My attitude on here has nothing to do with my passion for quality karaoke. I am talking to you as fellow KJs with something in common. To inform and enlighten.
If you came to my show you would walk out with one thought in mind. "That guy doesn't F***around. He's serious." What do they say about your shows. Do they say "I never sounded that good before." "I sang so many songs without having to hear filler/dance music cutting in to my singing time." "I have never heard nonstop karaoke before." Then do they tell you about all of the crappy systems they have sung on? How horrible they sound. How nice it is to finally sound good. How much more enjoyable it is to sound good.
So if you want to turn this around and make it look like I don't have the right attitude, go ahead. Your attitude does hurt us as a group. Turning a blind eye to the hacks hurts us.
You would know by the way you sound and my no nonsense approach to karaoke. My attitude toward great sounding professional karaoke would show through. My hatred of hacks and incompetents would not. Your collective responses to my posts makes me wonder just where you are on the KJ competency chart. I know there are other professional KJs on here. I'm not worried about them. I worry about the ones that "In their mind, think they are," when in actuality they couldn't carry my equipment. The ones that hurt our reputation as quality KJs. The ones that undercut just to get work. Because they suck. Not because of their quality system/sound/investment. Because they chose to buy cheap crap to make themselves think they could be a KJ, like everyone else. Now they don't have a clue, the system sucks and they can't find quality jobs. Remember hacks can have 15 years experience (the one speaker girl) (It's good enough for karaoke hacks)(she doesn't have a clue that she's a hack) 0-16 years as a KJ. Means nothing. I took jobs from her before and charged more money than her. I have never underbid anyone. I'll take your job and get more money to do it.
I have the correct attitude for success. My forum attitude doesn't get karaoke jobs. My hatred for hacks and my wish to put them all out of business gets me jobs. My professional attitude gets me 14 years of steady jobs.
Do you know a hack mechanic you will not take your vehicle to for repairs?
Do you know a hack veterinarian you won't take you pet to?
Do you know a hack Doctor you won't take you kids to?
Do you know a hack roofer?
Do you know a hack plumber?
You know hack KJs too.
Why are they hacks? What is you hack definition?
The best part of this is...... all of the above mentioned hacks are all still working, right. They don't know they are hacks, because they work. Doesn't mean you don't know they are hacks.
The hack doctors can see patients everyday. The hack roofer works everyday. Hack KJs can work steady too.
There are people that deserve to go to hacks. There are people that should know who the hacks are. Hacks should know who they are, but they don't. Somebody has to tell them. I rest my case. I have a "Hack" of an attitude.
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Texas Gigi
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:47 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:45 am Posts: 544 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Been Liked: 0 time
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The problem is, darlin', that you make it sound like anyone who runs a show differently than yours is a hack.
I don't hate hacks, I just don't patronize them. Piece of cake. And no high blood pressure or hard feelings. If they don't go away, that's okay. Becuase the quality of the singers (and the quality of the bar's income) matches the karaoke show. A hack bar owner will hire a hack KJ.
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karyoker
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:49 am |
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Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:43 pm Posts: 6784 Location: Fort Collins Colorado USA Been Liked: 5 times
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The professional mechanics are not wooried about the shade tree mechs that charge minimally and clobber cars together. Professional techs in well equipted repair shops do no freat wannabes that work out of their garage. There are those that know their profeesion and are real and then there are those that play roles and pretend to be..The role players have to convince themselves daily that they are what they claim to be..
Ill be going over to the farm for thanksgiving. Fri Ill go into the local bar for karaoke The bar owner whom Ive known for 50 years, the KJ and all the singers know I have a system that is 10 times the system there and probably 4 times the selection. They are all glad to see me again and as a pro and singer I can adapt to that system and entertain them.. I know people who can walk into a bar with a guitar and entertain without any amps atall. And each has their own personality and are not trying to imitate somebody else..
For gods sake cant we have one thread on here that interjects proven businees practices and something that provides positive promotion for a trade that we all love? Im so tired of this childish bickering and BS if you were to walk in my bar I would c all you out in a heartbeat and kick your (@$%!) and watch you bleed into the dumpster.
There is no such thing as black and white but many shades of gray.. And to those with an open mind there are an infinite amount of colors and see the world in a perspective that some will never see.
So break out of your little bubble and quit tying to insult the real successful folks on here. You are the typical teen sitting on the other side of the table, rolling your eyes and know everything and show no respect for your elders or their opinion...
And yes bigdog I would take you out behind the barn and teach you what being an adult and what life is about.. Are you ever going to grow up?? You can sit there flapping yoiur gums and rolling your eyeballs till the cows come home and all you are doing is showing your immaturity and total disrespect for others.
You can insult me but when you start on the gals on this forum I will come unglued and pin you to the wall son..
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gahmc
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:24 pm |
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Johnny Echo @ Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:36 am wrote: Will You Marry Me........ :hug: :handshake:
What, I don't have enough last names yet?!!? :hug:
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:06 pm |
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Nobody has to do anything my way. I didn't say if you didn't do it my way you are a hack. You can be a hack for a thousand reasons.
There are general business practices and talent that dictate the hacks from the pros.
If I'm a mechanic and I screw up every car I work on, I'm a hack.
If I'm a doctor and botch my diagnoses and opertations, I'm a hack.
If I'm a KJ and use one speaker out of laziness, I'm a hack.
If I do KJ work just to make money, without regard for the quality of my presentation, I'm a hack.
If I cater to my friends 2-3 times every rotation without regard for the bar owner making money, because I chase the good customers away, I'm a hack.
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karyoker
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:56 am |
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Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:43 pm Posts: 6784 Location: Fort Collins Colorado USA Been Liked: 5 times
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Dog I dont think you are a day over 14 years old. Your comments in the tech forum does not even come close to reflecting someone that has been hosting for as long as you claim. Your tunnel vision would kill any enterprize or business in six months. Your attitude is not conducive to public relations You cant even get along with people on here how are you dealing with bar crowds on a daily basis?Your comments smatter of someone that is desperatley trying to be something that they are not..
I with everybody else here think you are nothing but a phoney little troll and I am tired of your BS and your attitude and disrespect for anybody elses opinion on this forum. Now either identify yourself stand up and look me in the eye and start acting like a man or shut the hell up..Your mommy and the anonymous avatar isnt going to protect you forever. In real life I eat people like you for breakfast I have taken kids like you in the military and made men out of them. And if you think you are going to wear me or anybody else on this forum down like some spoiled brat with your constant ravings you are mistaken. Im no longer sitting on my bar stool son.. Do you have the courage to respond to me directly or are you going to just continue with general dispariging remarks. Stand up son and look me in the eye or shut trhe hell up..
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