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I TOTALLY Agree Mr. Lonman. Everything  I've learned so far has been from you fine folks on this forum that let us share in the knowlege that you have obtained.It really is a Beautiful World.

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Why thanks, Tommie.    :wave:  :yes:  :hi5:  :wave:

Babs, I'm glad you posted this question/topic. I learned alot!!!

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I just wanted to add something to this compression thread.  I had decided to get a compressor, and came upon this thread, took in the advise (thanks Lonman for the pic of the cables HUGE HELP) and bought the DBX 266XL.

Of course, I'm still learning how to "tweak" it, but I have had to put my two really quiet singers on a mixer channel without the compressor. Just never could get the adjustments to were they could be heard. But with my regular to loud singers, I'm loving it. And I haven't had any problems with sudden loud yelling, or whatever, which is the main reason I got it.

But if any of you guys can give me some advise on what I need to adjust on the compressor for the quiet singers, I'd appreciate it.

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Idealaly you want 1 red light lit on the compressor and good heavy singers will light the preamp light occasionally... With most I adjust the output gain on the 266 to compensate for different singers.  At one time I had 2 gals that always sang a duet and both of them when they heard their amped voice would pull the mic away..  Time after time I woul;d smile and kid them and go up and push the mic in front of their face... If I treied to amp them I would get feedback... Finally I started turning the music down to get an equal level .. The quiter they would get the music would come down more.. I kept teeling them I can only do so much The quiet music finally egged them enough to open their mouths and sing.. Patience finally paid off and they became fairly decent singers.  They just loved me because any other host wouldnt show them any patience.

One of the biggest joys in karaoke is watching somebody look through the books for a year and watch everybody then finally get up and sing duets with a friend.. Fiaally they get up and sing a solo..  I had one gal walk off the stage with stars in her eyes and saying I finally f*** done it!!!!! I wrote on the back of her slip that she had turned in 1st solo the date Love Ollie and walked over and gave it to her and huggged her...Memories......

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It sounds like your main concern is improving your system. The biggest improvement would be to add a sub-wofer to your system

Thanks for the reply guys. As far as the speaker, I'm doing fine with them. In fact, I have to turn down the bass for some (brand) discs.

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Can I use a compressor with a mixer which doesn't has insert points, like Vocopro DA X10 ?

Thanks

You can, however it won't work as effectively.  Just make sure your compressor has XLR ins/outs.  Like the dbx 266XL, plug your mics into the input & the output into the mixer.

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Lonman, can you explain the downside of using the high-impedance 1/4" patches instead of XLR? I just bought a Behringer MDX1600 and want to try it on my mix, but I would have to go buy XLR cables special.

Less signal flow, you'll need to turn the gain up on the mixer higher than it would need to be, more susceptable to noise/interference, not as clear of sound.

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Ok got the new compressors and the insert cables, now need help hooking it up. On the insert cable the black trs goes into the insert connection of the mic strip but the grey end labeled (tip) is that the output or input of the compressor vice-versa the red end labeled (ring) input or output of compressor or don't it matter? Also I read through Lonmans Basic adjustment setup which I did but a few more adjustments He didn't talk about switch on back between input and output labeled +4dBu or -10dBV button in or out? There is Two Threshold knobs for each channel both set the same as mentioned? Well that should be I think Thanks Mike

The tip goes to the input of the compressor, the ring goes to the output on the compressor.
+4/-10 button depends on the mixer - most will use the -10 setting.
2 Threshold knobs?  You must've gotten a compressor with a gate.  Which model?  If it's set up like most compressors, the first 2 knobs per channel should be turned all the way down (counterclockwise), you won't need the gate.

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I have a mackie CFX12 mixer and got the DBX 266XL Compressor/Gate Model

Good choices.  Yep insert the mic channels you want to compress via insert cables described above.  The first 2 knobs on the compressor are actually the gate portion, just turn them all the way down, you won't need these.

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Thanks for all your help lon! I assume the button on the back should be set on -10 for the Mackie. I have all the other adjustments you mentioned in an earlier post set at your starting points. What should I be listening for when I start using it for the first time? To make fine adjustments from there.  Once again thanks for your help Mike