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That's a great story, Matt.  Reading this thread I was thinking to myself, "There's just no nice way to tell someone they smell bad."  I guess I was wrong!

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Look, you said he's singing loud enough to hear now, after you talked to him.....so you'll just have to get used to the smell.....for god sake, girl....meet the man half way at least.......

Don't let him touch you... or grab the mic from ya Babs...  Let him know that if he doesn't follow the rules he's not going to sing.  Some people think they can do whatever they want.  No KJ gets paid enough money to let patrons do what they want.

Stand firm and give him his last warning!  If the bar owner is not behind you, then heck with him.  P.S. make sure you have someone watching your back, just in case he throws a temper tantrum at your altimatum..

good luck!

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What ever happened to dress codes in clubs? Granted the bouncer doesn't usually carry a 'smellometer'.

It's not your problem - it's the bars. If he runs off customers then they lose business. They need to be aware of it and make their decision. You probably don't want to put yourself in the position of being a problem with this guy.

If he hangs around bring some air freshener and spray it inconspicuoulsy at your KJ booth when he isn't looking.  LMAO

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Or you can always have an incense burner going????  

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You guys are great - I'm just picturing myself with a holster on with glade cans in the pockets.  LMAO

I'm thinking if I say something like - do you smell that? something smells really bad.
Then smell myself, the air around me and then in his direction. Then tell him he should change his cologne. when he says he isn't wearing any - I can give a puzzled look.  LMAO

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Lon- You are totally correct on all counts. When the manager gave me permission to kick him out my first thoughts were - why, because you don't want to be the one doing it? That's why I will talk to the owner - I'm thinking once I tell him what she said he'll take it into his own hands. He doesn't like anyone having say so in his bar, but him. That will work in my advantage. It won't get her in trouble or anything - it's his gf. he wouldn't want her doing it either.

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I just called my problem bar owner tonight.   I told her this is her last warning about A**holes.     I will give her no more warnings.     Next time I quit.

Some bar owners may think I'm trying to tell them how to run their bar.    NO, I am telling you how I run my karaoke business.   I do not put up with A**holes.    If you choose to put them above me and the rest of your paying customers, I will not be here.   Pick one.    HIM or ME?     I really don't care which one you pick.   I will not ever feel bad or worry about walking out, over my personal safety.

I have 4 bar owners right now, that are fighting over getting me to play at their bar.    It's so good to be KING.  :yes:    They all want me to quit other jobs to play at their bar.

Reputation, reputation, reputation.     Don't have one?     Get one that you can be proud of.    You'll work steady.


FULL MOON IS COMING.    :shock:    First of the month, every A**hole, drug addict, drunk got their checks the other day.    Yeeee haaaaa.

There really is something true about that full moon reputation isn't there?

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Oh yeaaa.   See it every month, I hate it.     On a full moon they all come out.    Half moon you get half of them.  :yes:  :O     Also the first of the month they come out like coach roaches at a feast.  :drool:    They all got paid.     It's burning a hole in their pockets.    :yes:

Hi Babs. Reading this reminds me of a scenario that is just the opposite I think. The place I go to, (or used to go to)...I don't have time anymore, has a pack of so-called undesirables that frequent the joint. They all sit at the same table as close to the dance/karaoke area as possible. I think only a couple of them do actually have teeth. Anyhow, this one guy gets up and sings with no teeth, and it's always the same couple of songs. One of the songs I can't stand, but it's kinda fun to watch him dance like a real hillbilly....it's called "Mountain Music"?? The other one is "I Swear" by John Micheal Montgomery.(I think he has the hots for the kj) Well, when he sings this I cringe, as well as alot of other people do because he's LOUD, and waaaay out of tune, and the no teeth thing sure doesn't help the pronunciation of the words. I have been standing at the kj booth before trying to talk to the kj when this guy sings and it's just unbearably deafening. I'll comment to the kj and her face just turns red....she's very tolerant I suppose, but I know this is driving her insane also. These are regulars that don't spend much money...sometimes they'll drink water. And I have noticed alot of people get up and leave before while they are there. This must be a difficult to approach problem for bars/kjs. Although, I've noticed people get up and leave before while I'm trying to sing....
This place has all types also....metalheads, country, rock, easy listening, oldies....but I've noticed it always seems like the same old songs are being sung by the same people. I get bored to death with myself if I sing the same song twice in 2 weeks. I know this kj is on the border of insanity. .
My only real advice here is probably not helpful, but you might feel a little better knowing that others are aware of the same issues....it's all in a nights work!!  :no:  Not helpful probably. Just think of it as.....these people adore you...you are their sanctuary....someone who accepts them for who they really are......terrible singers or good singers......or smelly singers....
I feel kinda terrible myself talking about those people like I have, because I don't know what they really think of me either, but there's nothing wrong with talking about it here.....we all need some sort of theraputic release ever now and then....and maybe a good laugh.
I know sometimes I have to cover my face or turn my head when someone sings because I'm about to bust out laughing.....it's just a natural reaction.....not because I think I'm better than them. Hell, go listen to some of my subs in SS....that might cheer you up(or make you bust out laughin').  LMAO

But as was just mentioned.   Those type of people can and do chase away good customers.   It is a problem.   For the bar owner and the KJ.

It doesn't take too many stupid business decisions to kill a good business.

My Saturday night guy has not had "karaoke" on the sign out side for 5 weeks.    Karaoke is the only big money thing going on in this bar.    What's on the sign?      He's still talking about his new big TV.     He is killing the steady money to advertise something everyone already has.   TV.    It may be a different story if he had the only TV for 20 miles.    Homeless people living under bridges have TV.

Smelly, loud, obnoxious people can kill a good crowd.    

Bad KJs and bad bartenders can kill a crowd.    

Too many boring songs can kill a crowd.    

Too many bad singers can kill a crowd.  

Too much dance music can kill a crowd.    

Holding up karaoke until the game is over can kill a crowd.    

A fight can kill a crowd.    

A few nasty looking bikers can kill a crowd.

A crappy sounding karaoke system can kill a crowd.

A computer crash without a backup can kill a crowd.

Dude, first of all, I just wanna say.....you look like our dog.

Yes, I believe that. These are the only 2 things I've never noticed about the place I've mentioned.....

Holding up karaoke until the game is over can kill a crowd.

A computer crash without a backup can kill a crowd.

Everything else you've mentioned seems to be there. But I think you forgot to mention the other thing....gays and lesbians flaunting their sexual promiscuity all over the bar. I know....not pc, but it relates to another scenario in which I was involved....

I commented to a dude one night about a song that he just performed because it was very good. After a few more minutes of conversation about work...truck driving, and he mentioned that he was a student at a truck driving school currently, and about to graduate, he asks..........are you married? I say....yeah....WHY??? He says.....cause you're f'ing HOT!! I'm like........DUDE!! I'M NOT EVEN THAT WAY!!!

Needless to say, I quickly found a table full of women to sit with who recognized me. And that proved to be just as embarrassing.....they only wanted me for my drink money.

Later, a different night, I was talking to a lady and mentioned what had happened with the guy propositioning me, and I asked....do I look that way?? As if it's suppose to look a certain way... I asked......is it my hair??? Is it???
She says.....well, kinda you do look that way. I'm like....how do you mean???
She says.....because you like to look nice....or dress nice.
I was baffled. I'm just trying to be a decent patron...I had on jeans and a white t-shirt with a long sleeved button up dress shirt opened in the front not tucked in.........what's gay about that???

So after that, I went in with a local thug look...just kinda scrappy lookin'...unshaven too.

I sit alone mostly....I might mingle ever now and then.....but mostly, I try to keep my back against a wall....never know what kinda stuff could come flying from behind......pun intended. LMMFAO!!

So, I guess my point is....anything can kill a crowd I guess. I sure feel awkward about going back in the place now...and if and when I do, I'm fully aware of what lurks in the shadows. I do kinda get a kick out of watchin' the girls kissin' one another on the dancefloor though. LMMFAO!!

Just the other night at one of the regular gigs, I had a black couple I know come in for the first time.   He was OK but she was a little nervous.   They placed a food order and then she must have said something to him, because he asked me to have the order made to go.     I went over and told him to look around.   I had the gays at that end of the bar, the Mafia in the middle and the normal people at the bar.   I said you'll be alright.   He laughed.

A couple of the gays followed me from one of my other gigs.   They were in a party mood one night.  They just had to get me in one of the pictures they were taking all night long.    I guess I'll see me on the internet somewhere under "My Wiener" dot com.  LMAO

The lesbians seem to run in cycles.   Had a whole lot of them for a while and then they disappeared.    Then they came back.   Now they're gone again.

It's the power of music that brings us all together.    :O  :shock:  :worship:  :hug:

So you also work in the kitchen during your shows?  No wonder you're always in such a hurry to get from one singer to the next!  

"Hurry up dude, my fries are burning!'

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Ummmm...how do you define "normal" people as it relates to karaoke singers?

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Well if you want to get technical.   The majority of the karaoke singers are not normal.     They have an addiction to singing and having fun with like minded souls.

Objectively the normals were not gay/lesbian/gangbangers/mafia/drunk/drugged/insane/homeless/smelly.    Just either listening or singing like normal people should behave and act.



About my actions at the bar.    

I have mopped up spilled drinks and put toilet paper/paper towels/soap in the restroom.    :shock:    I give my bartenders/owners headsup about problems or potential problems.    Tell them if someone needs waited on.      When I am at a bar I treat that bar as if I owned it.   Every one of my actions is souly dedicated to making as much money for the bar as possible.  While trying to make sure everyone is safe and comfortable.    If that means the fries are up, then let's get them out there.       Just lay back and play dance and filler music.   I'll handle the real stuff.     Like karaoke.    Making money.    Working steady.    Sounding great.  :whistle:

OH Boy - I had the dreaded talk with stinky.

He came in Friday night. It was packed to the walls with people. After speaking to the bar owner I realized this guy was not going to get kicked out until he did something outragious again, but at least he was willing to watch him and wait for the moment. Well stinky put a request in. At first I ignored it - then he kept asking me when he was singing. He was way to messed up to sing. I just told him I wasn't going to get him tonight, sorry. He gave me a face and walked away. Then he left.  

Saturday night came. It bugged me all day that I needed to say something to this guy. He comes in and says - Do I get to sing tonight? I pulled him aside and told him
I'm simply going to be honest with you. You are a loose cannon and you make me nervous when you sing. You are new to the bar, no one really knows you. I'm not sure what you will do when you get on the stage. The bar owner doesn't like profanity on the mic and I have been warned not to let it happen. It is okay to party hard, but I have to draw a line some nights. You seem to be fine tonight , so I will let you sing. But so you know in the future there are some nights I'll choose to not let you sing if you are to messed up. He took it well and kept trying to hug me. One of the regulars even came ove and asked if I was okay. That was sweet. When he tried to hug me again I had to push him away and tell him enough with the hugging already.

I didn't have the nerve to tell him he needed to take a bath. I'll save that for another night. Yikes.

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You....you're good....yes, yes...you're good......I love your step by step approach....can't change him in a day......maybe he needs to be changed........could be why he's stinky.......does this guy's first name start with an S(not Stinky)......still be carefull, Babs........jj

His name does start with an S.  LMAO

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