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Bigdog seems to think you do... shhhh, you'll upset him! You and I know you don't.

I did my converting on a 1.4 ghz machine with NO probs. I play them on a 1.2ghz machine with zero glitches.

and they're stored on a 160gb drive!

BD video files are uncompresed and thus he needs a lot of HD space. This give him the best posible video quality; almost equal to that of the original.

BD: when you go fully digital you may want to do the same to your audio file; uncompresed WAV file with the graphic. Thus WAV.+g, instade of mp3+g.

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 Ok guys, I get the message. I guess by what I've extracted from your "answers"...it can't be done. Sheeesh....didn't mean to start up a hornets nest......but it was....."comical"...sort of.

                  Thanks.....I think

                                 Donny B

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Welcome to the world of...... supposedly...... techies who don't like drama and those who create it.  LMAO  :drunk:  :no:

It's tough to get an answer here sometimes..... cause what you end up getting is a bunch of contradicting answers, and everyone swearing their answer is the right one.  :no:

And no, I can't help ya..... wish I could. I just thought this thread comical, like you did.  I wander in here once in a while, just to get my kicks.  LMAO

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Power Karaoke's program "Power CD+G to Video Karaoke Converter" does this
particular process just fine.  It'll convert to either MPEG or AVI.  Maybe there's a freeware or shareware program out there too.

Blah blah blah...... blah blah blah blah.......

Odie, watcha doin' in the Techie area? This aint no place for fun loving guys like you. They'd rather chew you up and spit you out as to look at you.

Now, grab my hand..... and run.  :dancin:

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Just trying to protect you from miss-information from lildog.

After you successfully do what I am describing, then we may have something to talk about,  until then.......

As to 160 gigs.    

Kindergarden video quality.      

People must look like stick figures.  From lack of digital video information.  :O

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For my next trick I will convert streaming video in to.........CDG graphics.    LMAO  LMAO

Repeat after me....Abracadabra, presto change-O    :worship:

  OK people. It's evident that either you didn't understand the question, or you don't know the answer. All I asked was if ANYONE could tell me how to convert KARAOKE LASER DISC to CD+G, NOT VCD, format. I didn't mean to start a ruckus, but eveidently with all the self serving " I can do anything better than you" mentalities out here, the actual subject got lost. So, that being said, sorry I wasted your time.....and mine!!!


                               Donny B


ps: A sincere thank you to those who actually tried to answer the question,  :beermates: and a big "pi** off" to those with other agendas

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The answer is no.   Read my first response to this thread it will tell you how to put it on a hard drive.    Nothing will convert streaming video in to a CDG format.       Pioneer made their own cdgs.   See if you can find a set for sale somewhere.   They made the lasers in to dvds too.  Well they started to but the quit after 25.

pioneer did what after 25?

you should check out kjpro.com/browse and look into what pioneer did.

I know, cause I have most of them!

Wasn't that clear enough?

PIONEER NEVER FINISHED putting the All laser disc songs on DVDs.   They quit after they made 25 of them.

The original laser discs contained 28 songs.   The DVDs only contain 15 songs.

2000 laser songs.   About 400 on the DVDs.

Okay, for the brain dumb.

PDL001-018 kjpro listing

PDL201-204 Country kjpro listing

PDK series kjpro listing

PDV series (16) kjpro listing

LEARN your FACTS before opening up your yappin' maw.

Are ALL of the songs transferred. NO, but they didn't stop at just 15!

Just like ALL of the lasers were not converted to the CDG series either!

I'll add to the fire.


Why anyone would want any of the pioneer stuff is beyond me. It sounds like a casio keyboard.

Sell them for the high price people are paying for them on ebay and pick up as many sound choice disc as possible with the procedes.

Many of the songs I have in Pioneer VS Soundchoice VS Chartbuster ... I prefer the Pioneer.

The only ones I don't like from pioneer were the more modern hits... you're better off with SC or with Pop Hits!

My opinion only liquid... Nyah! !

Knight, If you have 2436 Pioneer Laser songs on your hard drive then you may have the entire set that I have.   The CDG set was not the lasers converted to CDG.    Listening to some of the songs side-by-side you can hear some differences, like they may have redone some of the music.   I know I have the entire CDG set too.   They could not do all of the songs from the lasers, because they lost the rights to many of the songs.   They did the CDGs to keep up with the competition from the other companies.    So they bought the rights to some newer songs to put on the CDGs.     When the lasers first came out they pretty much had the entire market.    Then the CDG companies started getting on the band wagon.    The last I heard they made 25 DVD discs of the laser series.    That doesn't equal 2436 songs.    Do the math.

Pioneer also made and re-made many different size laser discs and different series.     All the sets had different letter designations.     I bought the original set, they were all the 12" ones.    They also made 7" laser ones.    So get your facts straight.   KJ Pro is listing every laser set they made.    They are mostly the same songs redone on different sets.

Ldye, I don't know which Pioneer lasers you are listening to but you better listen again.      Their music is very close to the radio originals.    I'll play almost every laser song, before any other version, by anyone.    They spared no expense on musical talent.      

Each laser disc was $150, suggested retail.    They sold for $110.    I know, I bought every 12" one of them they put out.     57 Pop/Rock.   20 Country.   10 UK Hits.   Do the math.      Somewhere around number 40-44 they  started putting the guide vocals (multiplex) on the discs and the price dropped to $75 each.     I bought another entire set of those.   Do some more math.     My third set I got used with the used system I bought.     Do some more math.      

Got any other Pioneer Laser disc questions for the master?

Donny B,   You are very right to want to use the Pioneer Laser sets.     About as musically perfect as you will find, bar none.  :wave:     They were the industry leader for sound quality.     Producing the videos became too costly.     That was their downfall.   Not because the music sucked.     They like me, set the karaoke bar for the rest of the world.  :O  :shock:  :whistle:  :worship:  :yes:

Ok, back to the question you asked. Here is what I had to do to make the LD useable. I have a stack of Pioneer LDs I had for years. I wanted to use them in my gig because I really like their version of Karaoke. You have several options on how to do that.

First, you can not do any direct conversion from LD to CD+G, physically it's impossible to do. What you can do is convert the LD signal in to one of these VIDEO formats: VCD or MPEG. Even after you do that, you can not convert any VIDEO files in to CD+G format because the words you see on the screen is a part of the video not a sub code like it is on CD+G. The analogy I gave earlier stands. Think of CD+G as a digital picture files that has information like name, settings etc. built in to the file. If you want to know when the picture was taken, you can look at the file and extract that data.

Think of video files as the actually printed picture with the date printed on it like the some of the pictures printed from film. If you digitize that picture, you will get the date embedded as a part of the picture but the computer has no way to know when the picture was taken by looking at the picture.

Here is what I did to make it easy. I took the LD player and hooked it up to the DVD recorder. I made a DVD copy of the LD then used my computer to convert them in to VCD format. I use MTU's Hoster, which will play both the CD+G and VCD or MPEG formats so I am good. Before I went digital, however, I had to look for a player that played both CD+G and DVD and used my copy of LD converted to DVD to play the songs.

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Eban, I have a copy of the lasers made into VCDs.   Putting them on a hard drive as I am doing now is such a big video improvement.    Side-by-side with the laser playing and the computer playing I can not see a difference.   There is a big difference between the VCD and the computer.     Like night and day difference.     The VCDs tend to be a little fragmented and grainy.   The computer versions are nearly perfect.   That's the only way to go.     VCDS would be a waste of time.   If one was going to do it the best way possible the first time.      It is a time consuming project.     An hour per side to record, in real time.    I'm doing over 90 laser discs.    That's 180-200 hours of recording.     Yee haaa...

First of all, I made DVD copies because I was using them on the DVD capable karaoke machines before I went digital. The quality of the video file depends very little on the format, i.e. VCD, Windows Media or MPEG, but more on the codec they use. It's the codec the determines the quality of the video and the size of the file. Usually, the larger the size of the file, better quality the video but not always. I think Sorensen has one of the best codecs around, quality per size of the file, but they are not widely used in consumer videos, usually for pro video. I think for consumer type, H.264 from Apple or DivX codecs are pretty good quality for the size of the file they produce.

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