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I did a sleep study and failed miserably. THey want me to come back in a couple of days for more torture. I'm sure I won't get it right this time either.

If they want to remove part of my throat to sleep better will that wreck my voice?

I think they use a laser treatment on the soft palate tissues mainly up front from the tonsils, uvula area.  If these tissues are too loose/flabby they can restrict the air flow when you're relaxed and sleeping.  I don't think removing or tightening up these tissues would change a voice much at all.

How about spelling apnea?

wow Chuck that bites. Are they sure that is the problem.
Do you have night terrors?

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Some suggestions.

1.  Next time study harder for the test.

2.  Get plenty of rest the night before.

3.  The cure for insomnia is lots of sleep.

I don't have sleep apnea, I just can't sleep soundly anymore.    I snore too much and I keep waking up during the night.   And I have to sleep with ear plugs or I hear every little noise.   My dad was the same way.    He could hear a gnats wings flapping at 100 feet.    LMAO   My nerves are shot.    This is the time in live where everything is suppose to go right and it's just the opposite.     It's not easy being the worlds best KJ.     See everyone thought it was.

I can't imagine having that problem. I sleep like a log. Half
the time I can't even hear my alarm. My daughter comes in and wakes
me up.
My daughter suffers from night terrors. They are horrible. She screams
at the top of her lungs at least once a night. It sounds like someone is trying to kil her. Thank goodness she usually doesn't remember it. I also wake her up on occasion because she have aweful sobbing fits. I wake her up and she doesn't know what she is crying about.

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I have that too but MS Word is the cure for that.



I had them years ago but not much.

Pretty sure sleep apnea is where you stop breathing......first stop smoking, second loose weight if your over-weight. Find out what they plan on removing....which doesn't always work. They will have you sleeping with a mask on, and you don't want that......work on the first two, before taking drastic measures......

Thanks Johnny. Smoking is one addiction I have not been able to shake yet. Since the sleep apnea is so bad for me I will have to do the mask at least until I can stop smoking.

As many know, sleep deprivation is a very common torture and can be used to retrain people. They used it in bootcamp and probably do still.

Good luck Chuck.  I DO have "Severe Extreme" sleep apnea.  Was diagnosed with it about 3 years ago.  Was given the mask to use at night and couldn't get used to it.  Went back this last year for another test, and after them letting me see myself I uderstood more about it.  I was stopping breathing 60 times a night for sometimes as long as a minute or more.  Your body then jumps to force you to start breathing.  Doctor basically told me I could get used to the mask or die.  When they put it that way you DO get used to it.  

My wife ALSO has it.  The first time we got into bed with the d@mn things on, I looked at her, she looked at me and we both busted out laughing.  I said, "Houston.  We have a problem."  We looked like a pair of astronuats from the Gemini project days.

And if the apnea isn't enough I also have restless leg syndrome.  So I take a pill for that at night.

The good side of all of this is, I do NOW get a real good nights sleep.  My health is better.  I too checked into having the throat surgery.  I thought, "Hey, one surgery and it's over with."  After checking into the facts, very few of the surgeries are successful.  They are extremely painful.  And those that do seem to work don't last forever.

There was a pro-baseball player who had it and refused to use a mask when sleeping.  He fell asleep in his recliner and didn't wake up.  So listen to your doctor.

Kelly

Thanks for the help here folks.

I knew I had a predisposition for this. Knowing that it can mimic Alzheimer's is very comforting, like you might not believe. Whew!



added later: Maybe the bags under my eyes will even get smaller. Cool.

My girlfriend had this problem too. She wore the mask for about a
week and like you guys said it is cumbersome and funny looking.
She is a nurse and found a different solution to the mask. I'll ask her what she is using and get back to you.

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Here is a study I just found on the subject relating dementia to sleep apnea.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract

...very encouraging.

This last statement from that page is the sum of their findings.




I had this happen a few times today. I hope I didn't post anything I will regret later.

I had apnea and chose surgery rather than using the cpap machine. I just couldn't sleep with the cpap machine. What they did for the surgery is all soft tissue and it has nothing to do with vocal chord. They will most likely remove your tonsils, if you have not removed it yet. They will take out some nodules as well as cut out your uvula. Then sometime if it's severe, they will use sound or laser to shrink some tissues at the back of your throat.

It's a hard recovery because for the first week or so, you can't really sleep lying down because the apnea is worse and you can't breath. However, after it's much easier. Also, I had to get a dental appliance to push my lower jaw out more so I can open my throat even more. It seems to be working.

Before all this, losing weight is the best solution for apnea.

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Eben - How horrible to go through all of that - even though it sounds like you're glad
you did it.
It sounds like the tonsilectomy from he!!.  OUCH !!

The mom in me wants to give you a big hug.  :hug:

I'm glad you recovered and can sleep now. I'm sure it makes it worth it. I can
only imagine how miserable you must have been to want to do the surgery.
You are one brave cookie.

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I have both too.  I'm so used to moving my foot around, and bouncing my leg continuously, it doesn't bother me.  It does however drive everyone around me nuts. Since I'm hyperactive, I assume it's something I'll have for awhile... Now as far as sleep apea being potentially fatal, that I didn't know.  What is it called, a C-Pap machine or something ?  I wake up mornings not able to catch my breath, at times with lung congestion and very shallow breathing, however I always figured that the autonomic nervous system would kick in, and start you breathing when you need to (assuming you aren't on a major CNS depressant). I also function under rediculously high stress and anxiety levels so I assumed this to be part of chest constriction too.  Never went to one of those sleep clinics however, Never saw a doctor for this stuff either.. I didn't know it was so easy to die  :shock: .Since I have chronic sinus congestion, asthma, and all sorts of nasty stuff, and since I avoid doctors.. I never assumed this to be potentially that dangerous.  My assumption being that like extrasystoles, the brain kicks in reflex when needed, and corrects improper rhythms..  Now you folks have me scared !

Maybe I'll just rig up a temporary way to force air in..

(heading to basement for aquarium pump and tubing)

Thing that gets me, is when I'm sleeping, and I get that involuntary jump or spasm... and startle myself. Or worse waking up because of my yelling while I'm dreaming fighting with a non-existent person

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I managed to get rid of Restless Leg Syndrome entirely as one of the benefits of my current diet. Also lost 40 pounds. Still could stand to lose enough to bring my body fat down a few more points.

I not only have the apnea but if I turn over on my chest while sleeping I get reflux and choke. I often wake up feeling that my lungs are filled with fluid. Death doesn't scare me much any more but I still have an issue with physical pain.

A friend has had the surgery because the CPap didn't work well enough. He is a changed man now.

Yeah, for stuff like  snoring, there are plenty of docs that give me the deviated septum BS.. and I'll be damned if I'm going to have my nose drilled out... Might as well take out the dremel and do it myself !


Dremels are handy tools.  I get sick of the dentist telling me BS too.  These are business people who LOVE to do superfluous work assuming they know you have insurance coverage.  If you don't have the money, in many cases the dentist will tell you... "Don't worry, you can live with it"..   When they find out you have the money and insurance will cover 80 percent, suddenly everything is a MUST..such as the root-canal, periodontal work for their buddy to pad his yacht with...


I just ordered "Dentistry for Dummies".  I'll do my own teeth too. Can buy the electronic anesthesia on Ebay (TENS unit), who needs the xray machine ?  Heck, They conveniently always forget to spot those little pin-heads until they are root-canal sized anyway.  Let's see... water pik 45 bucks.. Last dentist I went to told me it's not my gums he's worried about,  just the receding jawbone...  So a few teeth should come out... I told him,  WHAT THE ^&#)...  Would you have that done in your own mouth ?  I have no discomfort.. yank someone elses leg,  and teeth while you're at it !

OK,  I'm getting all female dog-like.  Time for bed !

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OMG what imagery that has created  :O  Snoring in general runs in my family, and my mom was concerned I had sleep apnea because I used to stop snoring suddenly then start again when I slept. She was one of the noisiest snorers I have ever heard... one night my Dad thought someone was knocking on the window she was making such a strange noise . I lost a lot of weight over the last few years... it has helped a LOT with the snoring. Whether I had sleep apnea or not the jury is still out on... but yeah Chuck, get it dealt with because you might NOT wake up sometime from it.

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