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Yea especially if your yodeler is broke....

A gal asked me one night what are you going to sing?  I said I guess its just gonna be sex tonight my yodelers broke...

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As far as dance music requests go.   I only get asked that question, maybe once every couple of months.    Around these parts karaoke still means karaoke.   Not a bunch of smoke and mirrors that looks like it could be karaoke, or use to be something like it.

I think it has to do with the fact that I play continuous karaoke music, with no lull in the action.   No dance/filler music between singers to distract anyone.   They don't get any goofy dance music ideas.     They don't get bored between singers.    There is no time to be bored.   This idea could really work, I should patent it.



I am not telling anyone what they should do.      If playing dance music is the right thing to do, why don't you play any dance music at karaoke?    Dance music is popular right?     Don't they like to dance in Canada?  

I am telling them that what they are doing is going to have harmful long term effects on their karaoke income.     Shorty they will be replaced with a DJ that has the brains to explain to the bar owner that they could do the same thing, without the karaoke (KJ) distraction.      Then as you would have it, if they want to keep working they will have to turn into full time DJs.     Is that what everyone got into the karaoke business for?   To make a slow transition to being a DJ, to make your karaoke living.

That was never part of my agenda.    It's not in my business plan, never was.

I'm thinking long term goal orientation.    And my long term goal is to do karaoke and only karaoke.     Short term yeah everyone is making money playing dance music, but long term I think they will all be out of the karaoke business.     They are slowly killing their loyal karaoke crowds.   NOBODY, I don't care how much dance music you play, can continue to do karaoke without a karaoke crowd.   It's impossible.

Unless everyone knows someting I don't.....   If I'm missing something please tell me.

Yeah, believe it or not people dance at karaoke.

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*****PLEASE STOP GIVING BIGDOG THE ATTENTION HE CRAVES********

By the WAy is BIGDOG A HE OR S SHE?????

If everyone feared change and progress as much as the FluffBall does, we'd still be playing karaoke tapes and reading the lyrics off of lyric sheets. Since BigDog has been doing karaoke for 15 years, I can just see him preaching about how:

CDs ARE GOING TO RUIN KARAOKE!!! SINGERS COME TO SING ALONG TO THE VIDEOS ON LASER DISCS, LIKE THE ONE IN FRANK SINATRA'S MY WAY WHEN THE MIDGETS AND MIMES CHASE EACH OTHER AROUND CONEY ISLAND. THAT IS WHAT KARAOKE IS, MIMES, MIDGETS, AND SINATRA!!!  SWITCHING TO CDS WILL RUIN THIS INDUSTRY!!!! THE WHOLE KARAOKE SING A LONG INDUSTRY HAS DONE NOTHING BUT GO DOWNHILL SINCE THE CAMPFIRE AND CLASSICAL GUITAR!! THE WHOLE WORLD IS GOING TO POT AND IT IS EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT!! LISTEN TO THE BIGDOG, AND BE SAVED!!

Seriously, though, Big Dog, I think you overestimate the PURPOSE of your job as a karaoke host. It is #1, FIRST AND FOREMOST, to put BUTTS IN THE SEATS.

If dressing up like Liza Minelli and only letting 10 people sing karaoke songs by Banglidesh artists while filling the rest of your time reciting beatnick poetry in your best William Shatner voice PUTS MORE PEOPLE IN THAT BAR, then guess what, THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!!

But you are right about ONE THING that you have said over and over again, if the bar owner finds that DJ music is going to put more people in their bar then your karaoke is, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF A JOB!!! So, in the end it is about doing WHATEVER entertains your patrons the most, and that may change year to year, month to month, day to day, and even hour to hour, SO, if you can't adjust and meet the EVER CHANGING needs, then you are going to get left behind!!

And, as many of you know, I personally think the Big Dog is absolutely correct, the karaoke industry IS EVOLVING, though I am embracing it while he is fighting it!!

Karaoke is getting MORE AND MORE popular to where the casual non-singer knows about it and knows what it is all about and knows the potential to have a good time doing it. And the KJs must evolve WITH IT. No longer is karaoke for the HARDCORE SINGERS Big Dog speaks about so highly. The ones who invented it and have grown it to this point. The ones who WILL go sing in a bar with nothing else going on and are genuinely interested in JUST the singing. This industry has grown past them. IT IS MAINSTREAM NOW, and for the better!!

The result of this, though, is that you HAVE to cater to the casual singer AND non-singer, as they are NOW the bulk of your POTENTIAL audience. The hardcore singer may still be the one who gets you through a slow night, but they are also the SAME ones who feel utterly ALIENATED on those nights when 100 people are there, all the casual singers are filling out the bulk of the rotation, and the non-singers are ROCKIN to their friend's sh**ty version of FRIENDS IN LOW PLACES.

Anyway, the last thing I have to say about all of this, is that the bottom line for my bar is that due DIRECTLY to the fact that I cater equally, if not mostly, to the CASUAL singer and the non-singer INSTEAD of the hardcore serious singer by making it more of a varied and exciting atmosphere with karaoke, DJ music, and the result is that I have a larger audience than the pure karaoke bar down the street who only offers to entertain the small (and constantly shrinking) HARDCORE singer group.

After all, in the current karaoke landscape, my target audience is RIDICULOUSLY larger than Big Dog's target audience, and I KNOW that the #1 priority in my job is HAVING A LARGER AUDIENCE.

AMEN!!!

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If for some reason you find yourself being replaced by a DJ, go up to the bar owner and tell him, 'if you're going to hire a DJ, you may as well just get a jukebox' and if his reply is, hey that's not a bad idea, tell him/her that you have one. All folks have to do is look through a book, pick out a song, give it to the host and bingo, instant song, and hey as an extra bonus, the customer even gets to sing along with it.
A little creative thinking can go a long ways when you put your mind to it.

James
Maninblack

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Love as though you've never been hurt, Dance as though no one's watching, Sing as though God Himself were listening.

Ewww..... who dumped the can of worms all over in here? Yuck...

Oh look, it was Bigdog.  LMAO


*tiptoeing back out of this one*

(btw, just cause I usually can't shut up, I hate when KJ's play dance music/filler songs..... whatever they call it)

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First of all, I got in to the karaoke business to play and sing karaoke.      DJing was never part of that plan.

My total crowd numbers are still the same as when I started 14 years ago.

Always more nonsingers than singers.



Now I have the best idea ever.    :yes:    You know how everyone loves Bingo.    :yes:

Well play karaoke music once in a while, play more dance music and you could finish off the crowd totally by playing Bingo too.      

Nothing more exciting than an unscheduled Bingo game and Dance music.    Look at how full the Bingo halls get.   More than for karaoke.  :yes:

That's a free idea.   I won't charge you for using it.


If DJing was part of your long term business goal, then you are all way more successful than you ever thought you would be.    :whistle:

DJ-o-ke-   Better changer your business cards to let everyone know your new business.    Notice how the karaoke part of your new business title is taking a back seat?  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  :whistle:  :asleep:

A popular Queen song keeps running through my head.

"And another one bites the dust."  :wave:


Another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust.

Geez anybody see any ghosts in here.  You know the type, they say they exist but offer no proof.

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I'll show you how we do it in my country.

A good portion of the 21 to 35 year olds enjoy dancing.  But they seem to enjoy dancing more to current day dance/hip-hop styled songs.  Now, what portion of karaoke singers out there sing songs in this more current, danceable style of music?  I'm not hearing a lot of karaoke singers doing these dance songs.  (But Canby isn't exactly an urban mecca either!  LOL).  Bigdog is right that the combining of KJ and DJ services into one person will water down the pure KJ approach. But, I can't help thinking that it would make the crowd happier as a whole.  Note: I do think if you have a lot of singers they should still have priority over the dance music.  A happier crowd stays longer and spends more money (plus dancing makes people thirstier). These are things a bar owner likes.  I guess it all comes down to why you're in the business -- for the money or for the pure karaoke.

I don't cater to the under 30 crowd.     I don't like how they act when they are in large numbers.    I'm not saying I don't get them and I'm not saying they are all like that.    But I like the older calmer people.    Less opportunity for trouble.


More Dance + less karaoke= no jobs sooner or later.

No other form of entertainment can successfully entertain all age groups and musical tastes at once.   Karaoke music and singers do this.    What type of crowd/ age group are you entertaining with the dance music?

What age are the singers?

I got interrupted.


You can and will not be everything to all present in an evening.    You were hired for karaoke.    You are alienating your karaoke base.   To fulfill your monitary obligation to yourself.     This is a short term move on your part and will not generate long term income for your karaoke business, unless you plan to heavily include dance music as your future format.     You are not fulfilling your obligation to the bar owner, per say.   You are not providing karaoke, as we know it.  


I do not have Hip hop and Rap in my song book.   Even the "Angry Rock" is limited.    Only people that want to get really wound up listen to that crap.    I don't like it.     One song gets on my nerves, so playing that to satisfy some and sacrifice my karaoke crowd is not an acceptable option.     Look at the faces of the karaoke singers whenever you start playing the dance music.     I'm sure it's pure joy.

How about this? I have about 15 regular singers each week. That's it. At the most 25. We live in a small town. I also do Trivia on another night. On a 'slow' night I bring out a lock-out buzzer system and do a sort of 'game show' name that tune that everyone loves. Am I ruining other 'KJ's' shows or doing what I can to keep my show lively? Sorry, but that is not strictly karaoke, but it might be more fun!!!!

Wow, posted before I read that funny dog's soapbox replies. I remember now why I stopped posting on these boards. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU OR WHAT YOU WANT!!! IT IS ABOUT THE CUSTOMER!!!  KJ, host, pimp, whatever you want to call yourself, YOU ARE NOT THE STAR. NOR ARE YOU THE BOSS!

The CUSTOMER IS!!! What they want, do it! DUH!

Done posting again, forgot how these fluffballs ticked me off!! Sorry to have wasted you good hearted folks time.

Yes folks, you have witnessed yet another case of suppressed feelings, perhaps I should have a weekly counseling session to help folks better express themselves, not quite a hokey as Dr. Phil, in other words I won't always make you feel like sheit about yourself, but just help you with those verbal communication skills.

Dr. James
Maninblack
Karaoke Host

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I serve no man and am loyal to only one God.

Being critical of a person's success in any respect speaks volumes about the lack of your own.

Love as though you've never been hurt, Dance as though no one's watching, Sing as though God Himself were listening.

You're as cute as the Fluffball. We should package you up and market you.

Wise words of wisdom once again O Grand PoohBah, Dr. James  :worship: