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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:24 pm 
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My pardon, but it's hard to conceive being prejudicial as a survival mechanism.


It may not be as prevalent in the Western world (but I doubt it).  Humans by nature are territorial since the begining of time.  Anyone who enters their territory are looked upon with suspicion.  Heck since 9/11 and the increase of extremist terrorist attacks, I daresay there are few ordinary Islamics who do not feel as if they are being looked at with suspicion.  It is wrong to do so, however, this happens more than not.  This would apply also to those of German, Italian, and Japanese descent during WWII, and even to the inner ghettos of most major cities.  Go ahead prove to me I'm wrong.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:28 pm 
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timberlea @ Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:33 am wrote:
Anyone who says they don't judge others, have no prejudices, or profile others,  are liars.  We as human beings have it ingrained into us and we use it as a survival mechanism.  It may not be politically correct but it is being human.

You don't believe me?  Next time you walk down the street, keep an account of your thoughts as you pass other people, especially those not of your race or religion.


Very true indeed sir, but I prefer to judge the individual rather than the stereotype

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:38 pm 
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You may prefer but I daresay that like everyone else, every once in a while you'll fall into the trap.  That's not a negative thing, it's just a human thing.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:03 pm 
[quote="timberlea @ Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:17 pm"][quote]I am NO liar[/quote]

Then sir you must be a saint. Riiight.[/quote]

No, not a saint but not culpable of the thing you are talking about.  Let's put it in more understandable terms: why dislike a certain group of people or things when it's far more rewarding to depise them on an individual basis. That should sound more appealing.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:33 pm 
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dsharrow @ Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:22 am wrote:
James, I can understand your feelings about having the shot.  I won't judge you but (whoops, there's that dang word again) I want you to congratulate yourself on being able to stop after just the one.  I've seen too many people who just couldn't do that.


I'm with dsharrow on this one James.


I wanna party with that guy.....I will have him dancing nek-ked on a table before the night is over... LOL


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:57 pm 
LMAO Me or Chuck Johnny?  Because with me it's been tried before and I'm not wired for drunk.  Or dancin' nekkid with anyone but my wife, in private LOL

Too many years also as a doorman watching what happens to drunks and having to watch my back.  First bar was C&W and the owner's philosophy was to pour as long as their money held out and our job was to run around and pick up the glassware when the fight broke out.  Then toss the unconcious ones into the parking lot.  The second one was a rock & roll bar where the owner's philosophy was that everyone was there to have a good time so cut 'em off when they neared the legal limit and all arguments had to be taken outside.  I very much preferred the second one.  Stayed on for almost two years (gave it up because it was a second job and I really didn't like working up to a total of 100+ hours a week).


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:37 am 
Both of you, and there would be no booze involved. I'm very persuasive, when it comes to striping my friends of their inhibitions. I've read several books on self-hypnotism, and though the books have not helped me in any way, for some strange reason, I've been able to use what I learned on others. It's like I had a hidden ability, that I never new I had, thus wasting it for many years......got a lot of catching up to do.......take care, buddy.........jj... :)


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Johnny Echo @ Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:37 am wrote:
Both of you, and there would be no booze involved. I'm very persuasive, when it comes to striping my friends of their inhibitions. I've read several books on self-hypnotism, and though the books have not helped me in any way, for some strange reason, I've been able to use what I learned on others. It's like I had a hidden ability, that I never new I had, thus wasting it for many years......got a lot of catching up to do.......take care, buddy.........jj... :)


I cant seem to be hypnotised. Had a shrink try it once becos I have a needle phobia that is getting to the life threatening stage. The surgeon wanted to operate and I said fine but I couldnt wake with a drip in my arm. He suggested a shrink and desensitisation. He tried hypnotising me but the jerk had such a terrible voice so in the end I told him... If you want to try that on me get some speech therapy lessons cos your voice is the most grating I have ever heard

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I do agree with Tim that it can be a human thing to distrust someone. Those types of people are well known in human society.

I on the other hand, tend to be a lot more open, and as such, have been hurt more in the trust department. I don't automatically group a race of people into a general sterotype. Sometimes I find the stereotype fits the "mold" and in most cases, it doesn't. My best friend in the world was looked upon as a druggie and someone to be mistrusted. I saw the raw potential in the man, and we've been friends since I was 14 and the BEST of friends since I was 19! My grandmother FINALLY came around before she passed away to realize that Ken was in my life for good! LOL! And she realized how close we were.

I work with people from all walks of life being in the I.T. world. During 09/11 and the immediate aftermath, I spoke with a coworker that was of middle-eastern lineage. He was Pakistani, and yes, was really horrified at what happened. Other folks had given him a wide berth, but myself, I went out of my way to assure him he was indeed a Pakistani-American, born here of two immigrants, and no in NO way did I think he was a sleeper-cell terrorist. sheesh!


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I was never a violent drunk, and to this day still can't stand being around folks that don't know how to control attitudes while drinking. I was a funny drunk, not that I did stupid things, I just have a wild sense of humor that seemed to get turned up a notch when I was drinking. My biggest downfall was women. Like I've said before, I would get on the 'Jim Beam Diet' the more I drank the thinner they got. I mean I would go home with Halle Berry and wake up with Rosanne Barr..LOL (figure that one out).
I never drank when I was depressed or angry. I never drank to forget my problems.  
I drank for the pure enjoyment of the drink. I have always loved beer, not domestic swill that gets served in most bars, but I love import beers. During my years, I've tried hundreds and hundreds of imported beers almost to the point that I could tell you what region of the world it came from just by it's taste. Most folks don't know the difference, but trust me, each and every beer has it's own unique and distinctive taste.
My friends use to try and put me to the test and nine out of ten times, I could tell you exactly what beer it was. Especially American beers, hell you can tell by the smell most of the time what brand it is. The only problem that I have now since I've stopped drinking is being around liberals that do, they say even stupider sheit when they're drunk, and dear god, I didn't think it could get any worse, but somehow the drink brings out the dumb in them even more.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:25 am 
I cant seem to be hypnotised. Had a shrink try it once becos I have a needle phobia that is getting to the life threatening stage. The surgeon wanted to operate and I said fine but I couldnt wake with a drip in my arm. He suggested a shrink and desensitisation. He tried hypnotising me but the jerk had such a terrible voice so in the end I told him... If you want to try that on me get some speech therapy lessons cos your voice is the most grating I have ever heard[/quote]

Well, I think we all have phobias that we overcome when push comes to shove. Take for instance smoking; you're actually afraid to quit smoking, because of all the discomfort associated with the cessation of smoking. Knowing if you don't quit, you will die soon......you will overcome this phobia, and stop smoking pronto(just an example...lol).....Just tell yourself, this has to be done, there are no other options..........we don't need no stinkin' Psychiatrist........it's gotta be done....like Nike says........just do it......  :hi5:


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I happen to personally know/associate with a few shrinks and social workers.....That is one pooched up group of people!

Talk about confused!

Man, there is no way I'd ever ask a shrink or social worker what to do with my problems...Hell, they ask me about theirs!...and they have some dingers!

After getting to know them so well, I figured if I ever need to talk, I'll ask my dog or just hang out with my horse till I feel better. LMAO


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Well shucks...I rarely ever drink and I never do drugs(I'm silly enough without chemical help...hehehe)...but dang it, it sounds like I missed out on somethin' here....why didn't somebody call me??   LOL

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