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Since this is talked about, hows about a new thread.

I haven't had problems with staff stealing music, but have had some similar problmes.

One of my host took it upon himself to download some videos from limewire (illegal videos) and put them on my system.  I chewed his a$$ up and down, and siad if he EVER did anything like that agin, I would fire him.  He was able to do this by burning them on disc and transfering to the external hard drive.  If he wanted to stal music from  me, he could easily take home the computer after a show and transfer it to his home PC.  THat is why I don't allow my hosts to take the laptop home for a night.

AS far as MTU protecting you from getting your music stolen, I doubt it.  I could be wrong, but could they not just copy the KMA files on their PC, and then buy Hoster to use with thoes KMA files?  IF that is true, MTU does not do anything to deter piracy, other than making a criminal pay $$$ to get Hoster to play the KMA files.

I would love it the hosting program companies would make it possible to protect us from theft.  Perhaps someone of locking folder with a key that would allow it only to be plaid on a certain machine.  Allso, there would have to be some way of being able to give the owner of the music/system, acdces to the files without much problem.

I belive Sax&Dotty's have tried this, but never release it to the public.

Basically the best way to protect yourself now,  is to hire trustworthy people.

They have fifferent locks such as this My buddy had some music stolen.... Even if you are not hiring help this is a good thing to have......

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I truely believe in and suggest Compusec for all computer users. It is an on the fly encryption program that makes your whole computer really secure....It won't even boot till you enter your keys.....Anything you have on it including external drives is so deeply encrypted even the NSA would have a hard time using/stealing your data.

I personally want to see CDG makers not go to encryption or special coding to protect us...Let us do that for ourself when we feel we need to.

Please google up 'compusec' and give it a try.

I had a host a few years back that used to take discs home - unbeknownst to me - copy them & then bring them back before the next show.  I found out about it one night when I had to go in early to replace a couple discs I knew were going bad, & when they walked in, he had a surprised look.  I started looking through discs & noticed the cases there, but no disc - they were in his pocket.  Don't know how many discs he got this way, but I ended up working that night & hired a new host after that!

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Yeah, ggod thing, but would not your help have to have the password to unloack the folder of music so it can be played?

Good program for a sole owner/operator, but I don't think it would help if you don't trust your staff.

Now if they could come up of some way of allowing only certain programs (ie: winamp) to access that folder, now that would work for hired help.

The protection as I understand it is tied to the registration number for hoster. so another copy of hoster would do no good. Mtu could supply the hoster owner with the software key for his own safekeeping.

all this talk has been theoretical, and it is not implemented in hoster now. It would be for  only for those who want it.

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It was last year twan when I tried one and I wish I could remember which one it was It was read only No copy or anything else.. I got tired of having to put in a password to add new stuff so  I took it off and forgot about it.

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So for now MTU Hoster does not have the ability to be encripted ?, so as long as someone buys the 200.00 Hoster program they can copy my 10,000 music library?
I just got hoster and only done 2 shows and playing around at home with it so Im not familiar with the tech stuff yet maybe hubby is but not me . So this is my thing. If I wanted to steal a 10,000 library it wouldnt bother me one bit to go & buy the 200.00 program to use it . Is this possible right now with Hoster?

Hope that wasnt a dumb question to some of you Just wondering . Got me thinkin now.

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Good point.

Just found this thread on MTUs boards dunno if you have to be a member to view but maybe a few of you are
http://forum.mtu.com/showthread.php?t=3 ... t=stealing
Im still reading it but interesting so far.

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IF ya ever remember which one it is, give me a shout.  I have been Googleing, but can't find anything so far.

We had some disappear a few times.    I had 8 laser discs stolen one night.    I think it's because one of the jerks that worked for me pi**ed someone off.   I think he had that tendancy.     He also was very hard on my cords.   Had to replace a lot of them while he worked for us.     I think he tried to see how hard he could pull them out.   Or how fast he could unplug them, all at once.

Had one guy that worked for us that was usually late for setting up the gig.   Found out he always had to wait for his girlfriends baby sitter.   We told him we
hired you, not her.    They were both so jealous of each other.    He didn't trust her out of his site and vice versa.     The best part is, they were first cousins.    She left her husband for her cousin.   They had a baby together too.    :shock:     Yeee haaaa.........

Found a better one on rox forum.  here

It hides the folder and denys access to it..
However it doesnt work on external drive unless that drive is on original comp. Is there any other feature you can think of that might be needed?

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Why not do the simple thing.  If an employee is stealing or copying your music.  Call the ploice and have them charged.  Do it once and I bet that won't be a problem anymore with any other employee.

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But would you call the police and make a theft report on a 'technically' illegal hard drive?  :whistle:

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Yep, the hard drive is separate from the content....It's your's even tho the content might not be....The key is to only complain that the hardware was stolen, not the content.

But, then again, I would only call the police if he whipped me when I ripped it out of his hands.

Lets get real here....The police as you call them would look at me like I was a retard with a lemonade stand... If I went to the DA he wpild be hard pressed to find  a statute to arrest and prosecute under.  Next he would say where is the proof that he copied it off of your hard drive? Do you realize what proof they would need to consfiscate his hard drive?

We did without a jukebox for a year because they closed the place down because of nudity and was legally tied up. The feds wouldnt let us in to retreive it. Maybe you got time to go through the legal hassles it would take for the pettiness involved... I dont....

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Basically what I would want, is a program that paswords protects the folders, and deny's abilit to acces them or copy them.  BUt it would have to be set up to let the hosting/player (ie: Sax&Dotty's and winamp) have access to the folders without a password.  ANd it would have to work on an external drive.

I'll check out the link you gave and see if it is what I need.

I havnt tried it either or even downloaded yet Im busy with stuff out at the farm but it sounds like it might do what we want....Ill try it tonight...

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The new Western Digital external drive Im ordering includes encryption software and all software required to do backups and whatever.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822136049

I don't understand the problem...Just encrypt the drive!

OK, if you have someone working for you, you will have to give them the password so they can un-encrypt the hard drive so they can use it at a show.  Kinda defeats the purpose of encryprting it.

Yes it would work if you were the only one using the hard drive, just unlock right before a show, and lock it back up right after the show.