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I think as long as you are consistent ...... that is the key.

We say ... each singer has a pile of slips ... and a turn in the rotation to do with as they choose.  If they wanna share the spotlight ... that is their choice... so yes, occasionally someone will be the 'partner' in a duet and then at some point later, perhaps sing a solo in one round ....... HOWEVER ..... to avoid the whining  ...... we have a NO BACK-TO-BACK rule and a NO SAME PARTNER rule.  WE space out the rotation so that no one EVER sings back to back songs.... and ..... we don't let TINA sing with GEORGE on her slip .... and then GEORGE with TINA on his slip.  

Seems to work pretty well for us, 'cause so far no complaints...... but then again .. we have a terrific following and a very "family" feel to our adience and show..... so we rarely get too many complaints.  Only once did a man (who was passing through town) come to the desk and ask why he hadn't sung when "ZITHER" had sung twice.... solo and partner on a duet.  I explained the "every singer has a song" policy ....... blah blah blah ... and told him he'd be up in two more songs.  He said ..... oh, okay..... I see how ya do it.

People are gonna whine one way or the other ...... The person who doesn't like to sing alone feels penalized that she can't sing with her friend ....... or the person who is 19th in the rotation seeing "ZITHER" on stage twice before they get their "turn".  But bottom line for us is ..... first come, first served..... so if you are 19th .... and ZITHER was 8th ...... and then sang a duet with the 13th singer .... he's been a patron for the night longer than Mr/Ms 19th.

I think as long as you are consistent ...... that is the key.

As MATT says .... YOU make your rules..... and then stick to them.

The RIGHT/FAIR way ..... is what works for YOU and YOUR audiences.

There is absolutely no way to justify treating a group of paying customers as an individual.   It's not right and it is not fair.    The other paying customers would want to be treated the same.    So they will just have to get over it.   I will not play GOD and tell people who they can sing with.   And then have the balls to penalize them for singing with someone.    I do not think it is a very good business practice.

Only if they were paying for one drink, and sharing it, would I consider treating them as one singer.

Last time I checked, we were still in America.    One singer per slip, sounds like a Dictatorship.

Sorry, you had the guts to sing with someone else, you must be severely punished.  We will be cutting out your tongue and cutting off the hand that wrote the offense.   And "No vigins when you die, either."

Remind me not to visit "your" country.  :worship:  :O

There is absolutely no way to justify treating a group of paying customers as an individual.   It's not right and it is not fair.  

Last time I checked, we were still in America.    One singer per slip, sounds like a Dictatorship.

Have you ever been asked to sing a duet with someone, that you really didn't want to sing with?

This happens to a lot of people.    Just because you sing good, people want to sing with you.    The good singer isn't running around drumming up singers to sing with.      It was kinda forced upon them, and they were nice enough to do the other singer a favor.    So they should be penalized for an act of kindness?

Groups of people coming to the bar should be something you want to happen.    You should act like they matter, because they do.   They should be treated as individuals.

You KJs are all alike.     Is that a fair assumption on my part?    Are you?

60 singers is sixty singers, whether they came in one at a time or they all got off of the same bus.

So a group of people coming into your gig, should have to sit at seperate seats around the bar, to be considered a singer??????

Strip search that group of people, there could be more than one singer hiding amongst them.   Rotton group.   Who do you think you are coming in here acting like a group?
Don't tell me you know each other.   That's the oldest trick in the book.    We're all friends Sir, honest.     We didn't mean anything by it.   We only wanted to sing and have a good time spending our money.  
Groups of people acting like singers will be discriminated against.    Only in America.

I guess the real answer is to be consistant!!!!!!!!!

I guess the real answer is to be consistant!!!!!!!!!

If you think treating 10 people as one is right, then do it.    But think about what they are saying about you, when they leave.     It's your reputation.

OK I get it.

I have also had people complain about me playing favorites, when a lot of people at the same table sing.   So to try to prevent that.   I will let one or two from the group sing and then go the whole way to the other side of the bar, for the next singer.   I keep the singers rotated around the room to give the appearence of them not getting special treatment.  Which they are not getting.   But some people think they are.

That could be a good selling point to the bar owners.   Doing some before the karaoke, karaoke.    For people that want to rent the bar for their group.    Or on a slow night, like a Monday.    But I also don't want to get burnt out, doing it.     Money's nice, but so is my quality time.