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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:37 pm 
Steven gives good advice...as long as she is singing in "both worlds" she will learn much from both of them...this works out for the best in the long run.  (PS:  Steven, that avatar with the eyball gives me an advanced condition of heebie-jeebies)


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I agree with Kappy about learning piano or any other instrument for
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BTW- Kappy the eyeball - yikes   cool - no yikes - neat - no - yikes

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Yeah bab's,  the eyeball isn't as "pretty" as I initially thought.  I'll replace it now.  I can see how it's disturbing.

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Steven Kaplan @ Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:55 pm wrote:
Yeah bab's,  the eyeball isn't as "pretty" as I initially thought.  I'll replace it now.  I can see how it's disturbing.


Yeah that eye was a bit creepy - LOL. I like the new psychelic avatar you have now though.

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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:31 pm wrote:
Another option of course, is let her sing in choir, and get her song books of popular stuff too.  Why can't she do both ?  Does she play piano ?   (not sure if you mentioned this, but basic piano is a good thing for most kids to have some training in) IMHO..  It helps make music more of a visual experience IMHO


Bought her an electric guitar last year - swore she was going learn to play it, but got her lessons with a singing teacher. So she didn't play it as she claimed she wanted to wait for lessons. Maybe we'll do that soon. Or I may send her back to more voice lessons. Actually Austin has the 'School of Rock' nearby led by various artists and they are supposed to be good for learning pop and rock styles. The same place has bass guitar lessons taught by the bass player for 'The Bangles' I believe. My brother is learning bass and playing with a local band too.

Guess she'll either start learning to play that guitar or I'll sell it on Ebay. It's a pretty nice Fender too.

She has done another song. I may post it.

Guess if I send her to singing lessons - as suggested by many of you, I need to make sure it is a good instructor that is also good at popular style and not just choir style. Actually, I'm not sure the particular style of her last instruction, but yep I need to find out. I hear she helps a lot of girls with the middle school and high school doing lead roles in musical plays....

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School of Rock would be a really good place for her to learn vocals. I'll bet they would help her learn to have her own style in addition to a lot of the fundamentals a singer needs to know.


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Actually I was just thinking.... if you can afford it, a private vocal instructor would be a good idea too, but let her stay in the choir... and only have the instructor say once every two weeks or once a month

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:58 pm 
Magz has a good idea there Bill.  A good, well rounded vocal instructor for someone with your daughter's level of ability would probably run around $30 for a 45 minute session--that seems to be the average rate from what I found when looking for one (and that's not bad, considering I paid even more for piano lessons when I was a kid back in the early 1900s).  Even just learning the rudiments of singing properly will be very valuable for a young person to learn right off the bat and will also help the young singer's voice stay in good shape as he or she matures.


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Yep, I agree Chuck, Magz, and MJK. I'll probably go that route.

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Kappy, I love your current avatar!  It's so bright and colorful.

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My daughter has a beautiful singing voice.  She has been on stage singing since she was very little.  She has always been in choir and theater.  There are many choir programs that offer more than just singing in the choir.  My daughter was part of a group called harmony at her high school.  They did upbeat modern type singing and dancing.  It was really cool.  My daughter loves to sing everything and has a vey broad range of musical styles including opera to hip hop to pop and country.  

She is on a scholarship at college right now.  Her major is performing arts.  I'm sure someday she will be famous.

Just make sure you give her lots of love and support throughout her journey in life.

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Everybody here has good points so I won't say the same thing over again with idfferent words.

If she has time for another elective, theater might benefit her. You learn a different kind of vocal projection and you learn to "emote" in front of people.

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Isis @ Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:31 pm wrote:
My daughter has a beautiful singing voice.  She has been on stage singing since she was very little.  She has always been in choir and theater.  There are many choir programs that offer more than just singing in the choir.  My daughter was part of a group called harmony at her high school.  They did upbeat modern type singing and dancing.  It was really cool.  My daughter loves to sing everything and has a vey broad range of musical styles including opera to hip hop to pop and country.  

She is on a scholarship at college right now.  Her major is performing arts.  I'm sure someday she will be famous.

Just make sure you give her lots of love and support throughout her journey in life.


That's great Sharon! I bet you've really enjoyed the ride with her since you love to sing too.

Amberly has done some theatre, and continues to improve in singing. I know she wants to do more theatre. Hopefully she can get some scholarships too. She's always been an A+ student (only 1 B so far), and I've never had to push her. That's just her standard.

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I apologize in advance for not reading everything in the thread leading up to this, and I know it's a dead topic and your daughter is staying in choir....

She will be SOOOO much better off in choir, so I'm glad she chose it.  Not only is it essential to reading music, it's like free voice lessons if the teacher is good.  It builds harmony, musicianship, working together, friendships....  It's one hundred percent beneficial to developing self esteem and I think identity (at least for me and most of my friends it was...)

What's more, while it is good to take a few drama classes or acting classes, any working actor will tell you that jobs and working is about connections.  Specifically, these connections are attained by taking classes and workshops (they're bought, basically, although in a good class you will learn a lot as well)  Therefore, no matter how much acting you study, you will always need to take another acting class to meet people and stay working.  So, I advise all my students to stick with vocal training because you'll ALWAYS be in acting class.

Also, in order to do theater, musical or otherwise, your voice needs stamina to get it through auditions, and EIGHT shows a week.  Believe me when I say you need the technical training you get from choir, classical bel canto voice, and even an intro to opera to keep your voice in working shape.  What's more, most studios want one singer to do it all: those bumpers you hear on stations- 101.9 or whatever they sing before commercials and such- country, rock, oldies, it's ALL THE SAME SINGER!!!  You get those jobs by sightreading and being able to sing any style, which you can only do with vocal training, and I swear most of the ability to change timbre and style comes from learning to blend and alter your sound in a choral ensemble.

So she's right on track where she should be, in choir, and I'm glad for her.  I can't find her recording on SS, but I'd love to hear her.

If she wants to know anything at all about having a career as either a cruise ship singer, choir member, church singer, or musical theater performer, feel free to email or post here or whatever.  I'm a singer/actress/coach for young performers, so I have some experience in this area, and in convincing kids that they really want to do what's best for them even if it's not what they think is fun, at least as far as this stuff goes.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:44 pm 
You know, that is a VERY good point about taking some acting classes, even very informal ones or just taking an active part in school plays.  Have you ever noticed that the really good singers were excellent to competent actors (well except Tony Bennett--I think he made one movie and he was awful!)...that's probably because they brought a sense of theatrics to their presentations.....good suggestion!


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