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Tough to know, Fads taper, something new comes along, however from the looks of things whatever comes along will have to be quite affordable to bars that just won't have the revenue they did during the 60's-90's.

Possibly some Hack DJ, but rather than using tapes or turntables,  people will be on a dance floor dancing to some kids MP3 player cranked into a few decent loud-speakers ?

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That trend is occuring here also.
1. There is none so fickle as the average punter, what is THE IN place today is closing its door tomorrow
2. The moment there is a downturn in the economy and folk start to tighten belts the first thing that goes by the wayside is the luxury items...ergo why go to a bar to drink when you can do so at home or have home parties with said kids mp3 player

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For now, it's still karaoke HOT & HEAVY.    :yes:

Changes made in smoking and drunk driving laws will be the biggest factor.       Bars can make too much money with good karaoke.  Most DJs and most bands do not or can not make that claim.    I don't think DJs are doing that good right now.   That could be the shift you talk about.   Before it went from bands to DJs and back and forth.  Karaoke threw them both a curve ball.    Karaoke went straight to the top of the heap.   Although poker nights are starting to pop up.   Texas stickup.  

House parties are fun, but the prep work and expense of throwing a decent party will keep that from happening.    Nobody has a house party every week.    Nobody wants to go to a house party every week.   Most of the parties are on the weekend, Friday & Saturday.    That leaves 5 good bar nights for NO parties.    If it gets that bad, bars will be closed Friday& Saturday and open the rest of the week.

People will make adjustments to the places they go.  They may start going to the local holes, instead of driving all over kingdom come.    So it will be a crowd shift.   These will go here now and those will go there.   Same number of people just different faces.   Bars may have to adjust their prices and have more food and drink specials.    They may have entertainment more often.   Karaoke money making every night of the week.    :O

You know I'm thinking about it and I don't know what could replace
karaoke that would be cheaper and or bring in more people. So far it
just seems to be variations of karaoke. Like sing with a live band or a piano player.
They may try something a little different to make themselves stand out.

Around here they just want quality karaoke. They seem to know the diffrence between bad and good sounding equipment &
a good quality song selection.
If new songs come out and I haven't gotten them yet - they aren't shy about telling me "well so $ so has itdown the street". I cringed when I had a couple patrons tell me another bar has karaoke with 100,000songs. Sorry but I can't afford high quality CDGS to supply that. The guy must be operating illegally and I won't do that. I haven't lost them as customers yet. That might be the fad you're talking about.

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Not sure Babs.  When texas holdem started replacing a few slots of Karaoke wasn't that an indication that there were other activities that might work ?  Maybe it'd just go back to the days of dance music using cheaper automated means of playing music over an easy to set PA system.  Just a dance floor, and darts, and pool, and some virtual team game played with 3-D helmets while sitting at the bar.

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Let's face it.  Technology has changed peoples lives.  In the 1960's and 70's unless you went to a bar, or a persons private party, you sat at home bored. You didn't have a means of meeting many people.  You just might've been a couch potato sitting around watching Ed Sullivan, and Hee Haw weekend nights.  If I wanted to meet females I HAD to go to bars growing up !

Today people do more from home.  Drinking age is older, laws are making it tougher for bars... Bars while they DO need a draw to pull people in given all the problems they are having with legislature slowing reverting our times to prohibition days.  It's a double-edged sword.  Without revenue they can't afford a "draw", and assuming they even have a draw giving away free alcohol wouldn't even help that much.. People can't drink as much and drive anyway !   What can bars do... They are in a tightening vice-grip... So, once karaoke goes, my guess is the larger bars will be like hard-rock and have concerts too, and other activities, and the smaller bars will be a corner bar, with kids that want to jam possibly jamming for free, or just tape or CD music... No entertainer required.  Perhaps one band in a box type musician ONE night a week, maybe two or three tops. Pool table. etc

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I would bet that the next logical step in karaoke will be for the major label record companies to just eliminate the middle man and sell REAL karaoke versions of the original artists.

Think about it, they already have the master tapes, and the lead vocals are already dubbed on their own separate track. All a major label has to do to get in the karaoke business is have a small office to create the lyrical tracks, purchase a minimal amount of CDG reproduction equipment, then run the whole thing through the existing publication, promotion, and distribution animal they already have set up.

Give it 5-10 years and you'll be singing karaoke tracks backed by the ORIGINAL artists with that artist's videos playing behind the lyrics!! By then the equipment will probably be cheap and advanced enough that even your local garage band will feature karaoke versions of their songs on the $5 CD they sell at their shows!!

It just seems so logical. Now I just need to pitch it to all of the major labels, sign the contracts for my 1.25% lifetime residuals, and buy an island in the carribean with its own 24/7 karaoke club to the stars!!

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That's a cool idea!

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Topher

I have always thought or wondered the same thing

Interesting concept.  I need to think now  LOL

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That should have been done from the start.  The original artists would own the karaoke niche market & increase sales to boot.  
Which brings up a question, about 13 years ago someone DID in fact bring me a regular artist cd & it HAD 2 karaoke tracks on it with the original music minus original voice.  It was a Stevie Nicks disc.  The graphics did not swipe, but the words were in fact on the screen & flipped like a page when a verse was done - the odd thing was, it did not indicate on the disc ANYWHERE that these tracks were on it.  She said she was writing her name on the disc & noticed in very wee letter in the middle clear section - 'cd+g' and decided to try it in her player.  She played every song & noticed there were 2 tracks at the end, sure enough those were true artist karaoke tracks.  
Has ANYONE come across any other regular cd's that had karaoke tracks?

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no, that's a new one on me.

The only thing I've seen is a few with some music only tracks... usually super singles or something similar. The song, and a b-track of the song without vocalists!

Yeah i've seen those too, those were real common on the cassettes.  And I have never seen a regular cd like that since, can't even remember the songs - but know it was a Stevie Nicks disc.  It would have been released '94 or earlier.  The club I was at at the time I left in '94.

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I belive that the graphic subcode being placed on a CD was to add more content to a CD by the original mfg.  The graphic subcode dosen't need to be karaoke, it can be almost anything graphical that you can add.  Then the karaoke companies sseein how it could be used, adapted it to their situation.



For once, it dosen't happen often, I agree with BIGDOG.

Where is my newspaper!

Check out the special version of the highschool musical CD. I know, it's not main stream music but it had most of the songs on CD+G tracks along with the actual music. I thought it was interesting. I think they should do more of that.

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Seize the day and SING!!!

There's a brand of Karaoke disc available at Tower Records in Portland that claims that it is using original master recordings of MOTOWN artists such as smokey robinson or the tempatations. Under the MOTOWN lable.

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I built a couple of karaoke versions using these kind of singles for a few people... kinda fun, really!

Certainly a lot better than the devocalized versions of songs I've done!

It ALREADY happen over in the EAST. Sonny, BMG, EMI all have their karaoke version of most of their new release. I just don't see why it is not happening in the west; maybe its something to do with the contract with the artist.

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wouldn't be surprised, Jian. Totally different copyright issues. In fact, I remember the RIAA screaming about copyright infringements, but they were pointing at Australian or New Zealand sites to download from, Russian, Chinese, etc... and the RIAA doesn't have ANY authority over there! !

Yeah I know about these, I think Singing Machine makes them.  That's not really what i'm talking about.  This particular disc was a standard issue cd, nothing karaoke related about it except for the 2 hidden tracks that were karaoke with the original music AND on screen lyrics - non swiped.

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