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Steven Kaplan
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 Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:33 pm |
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Quote: i need to get over that and just sing the best i can, have fun with it and sub the d.amn thing....i don't know why i'm that way, it's the same with other things i do too....this need for perfection, knowing full well it's not going to happen.. Believe me, I understand this ALL too well Jeanne. If you can get over it, transcend it, or adapt a healthier attitude that's GREAT, some of us WILL miss out on a lot of life being this way i think, it's an attitude that doesn't stop with just music, or performing, unfortuneately it permeates into too much.. including love life, demands on ourselves even when practicing, and culminates in the mercilessly beating ourselves up at times when things are VERY hard for us too. This is why while I explain how I feel, I don't justify it emotionally, and I'm VERY open to hearing OTHER'S attitudes. Like I said, I NEED to learn A LOT in life too.. Remember, I was punished for getting even a B- in school on a report card. I'll be the first to admit, in some ways I need to come off my "throne" and allow myself to be human. I didn't have that option growing up. Everything was critical, so strict it was obsessively ill, somehow I integrated rigidity into my logic.. Billy has a good point, NOT all in life (or the audience) is waiting to lynch us for a mistake, or subpar performance.. but, Mistakes are ALL I heard about.. Good was never good enough. I'm trying to work thru this, I may or may not ever be able to. God, I hate admitting this much in here, oh well, those that want to can "sue me", at least this is a start..AHAHAHA Life isn't fun when you are brought up this way; Example: Kappy: but what if I make a mistake ? Response: YOU DON'T ! Quote: i miss out on a lot being this way i think....
I miss out on ALOT more than you I'll bet. No risk, no kids, little interaction, closing myself in, while looking out and watching. Sick part is, I thought this was the way "A man" should be ! It's amazing isn't it ? The quest to be "strong" "the best", and "WINNING"... It ALL get's back to values instilled in us.. Cultural ways crammed down our throat from a young age... It all get's down to this.. "A man competes, and competes TO WIN". I see SS as a competition, but don't too many ? I dunno...
Great points all... I still have some thinking to do... (and miles of walking too) 
Sometimes it's just easier to try to step outside of our heads, NOT defend certain things, and for our own betterment listen, and accept.. That's another thing I'm trying to do; As Chuck stated last week, "Humility", and as I responded, "There's a time and place", I think a thread such as this among friends IS a good "place".. While I won't accept EVERYTHING ALL say, I DO know who means well !
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planet_bill
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:48 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:18 pm wrote: Yep Billy, I have to do alot of rethinking. I agree with ALOT of what you say. I think the bottomline is really "How much fun am I having" living life from the sidelines".
My guess however is open circuit diving, deep sea divers aren't going to want the liability of those of us that are just learning assuming they go as a team, however that's not necessarily true either.. Of course even novices go with the trained divers.
I suppose a true 6 or 7 can also golf with a pro's or semi-pro golfers if socially they get along fine.. It's not always just about the game... It's the social interaction in many cases too... Assuming I was a "6", I'd likely cave in, and bite the bullet...submit something. Believe me... I'm not even a 6 LOL
I understand what you are saying... I suppose I feel I'm free to do many things, but not to "perform".. Of course this is likely a fallacy.
I do a lot of songs nowadays ok I think. I learned a long time ago that if I pick a song that I always liked and knew very well in my range, and especially if I practice with it at home then I can do ok. Originally when I started singing in karaoke though it wasn't like that. I didn't always know what songs were likely in my range. And some times there was some spectucular humiliating screwups in front of everyone. Oh well. Even just the other day I was at karaoke and saw they had Alice In Chains 'Man In The Box'. I always liked this song and knew it was in my range cause I'd sung along with the original track in my car. However I didn't know it quite good enough as when I visually saw some of the lyrics they confused me. I didn't recognize them from the sounds I recalled in the song. This caused me to pause - and well....hose the whole thing up spectacularly. That after 2 earlier songs I did really well on. So I still do it sometimes. It is tough, but that time I didn't care. I knew I didn't have the karaoke track at home to practice and I just wanted to hear / sing the song. I don't really regret it, but I do look forward to the day when I know it well, and can go back to the same club and nail it.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:10 am |
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Sunrise is just around the corner.. Another day has ended..
Peace, out !
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:08 pm |
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...did I already say an act of Congress?
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:14 pm |
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I was thinking of submitting something when I had a really raspy throat/ voice a few days ago. Probably the best I've ever sounded .. Rod Stewart or something. Just like Jian did a little over a year ago, when he had a cold. It actually sounded excellent when he did too. Jian did a great job.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:25 pm |
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Looking at it from a film buff's perspective, I've been thinking along these lines. I truly enjoy a great motion picture--"Citizen Kane", "Casablanca", "Goodfellas", any along those lines which exude an abundance of talents involved. These motions pictures have artistic merit and often informed with food for thought. They can also be entertaining.
I also have a heart for the "low budget" picture, particularly those that try to capture the budget of a million dollar epic on the most meager of funds. It takes a certain amount of imagination and skill to achieve the desired effect because of this limitation. As such, these pictures have merit, can be though provoking and, on any level, are usually very entertaining, whether the enjoyment is intentional or not.
Now, on the other hand, there are motion pictures which have some of the best talents available connected with them, the finest writers, actors, and technicians and they are at best, merely mediocre...nowhere as great as the former and nowhere as entertaining as the latter. These movies are just boring to me. And yet, people will flock to see them. Why? Because being "just good enough" is "good enough" to the American public today. Sometimes below being "good enough" is satisfying today for most people.
Ugh!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:28 pm |
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About the only thing on TV these days I have the heart and stomach for is the weather channel. That and HGTV.. I'm sick of violence, suffering, and sensationalism. TV is just background white noise when it's on, Sort've like a nightlight but nothing else. I do this instead of reading, and watching TV.. I prefer it. When I'm not hear, I'm also not doing anything with work, and I'm also not sitting still. Either getting outside, cleaning, or doing something that must be done eventually in real. Now it's bedtime, this bug still tried reminding me it's not going away overnight.. . Still get weak ocassionally so I'm going to lay back and read AMS magazine that came today, See if anything is in it, that I never knew I can't live without
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:49 pm |
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Television is execrable--I couldn't even tell you what's on television these days...I think I tuned it out when the first "Girls Gone Wild" ad popped up on the screen. Incidentally, as a related side note, I recently read the "Girls Gone Wild" have been returned to civilization after undergoing extensive rehabilitation on some remote island in Indonesia and are currently living in foster care homes until more permanent arrangements can be made.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:30 pm |
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This thread still going on? Just put us out of our misery Kappy and sub. If it's that bad we can all laugh.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:52 pm |
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Nah, I'll drop this thread, when some of the others drop LOL
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:01 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:52 pm wrote: Nah, I'll drop this thread, when some of the others drop LOL
Then lets keep it alive forever! :party:
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:04 pm |
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Just don't hyperventillate Bill.. Those party favors take alot of lung capacity when we get older
Speaking of which. Regarding trivia. About how many helium balloons would it take to lift a 200 lb man off the ground :shock: Regular size balloons ?
Have you ever been to the Kitty Hawk Power kite site btw ? Great site...
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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:04 pm wrote: Just don't hyperventillate Bill.. Those party favors take alot of lung capacity when we get older Speaking of which. Regarding trivia. About how many helium balloons would it take to lift a 200 lb man off the ground :shock: Regular size balloons ? Have you ever been to the Kitty Hawk Power kite site btw ? Great site... It would take quite a few balloons. Sadly, yes I have pondered this because I have contemplated floating away in my lawn chair with a beer cooler and a BB gun. I think a better route to go would be to use weather balloons. It wouldn't take near as many and they have a decent lifting ability. ! Here's the story and apparently it takes about 45 weather balloons to live an adult male. Ok, so I didn't contemplate this that seriously but I like things that fly. No haven't been to the Kitty Hawk Power kite site. Send me the link.: Quote: Darwin Award Winner, 1997
The Darwin Awards - an annual honor given to the person who did the gene pool the biggest service by killing themselves in the most extraordinarily stupid way.
The 1997 winner: Larry Walters of Los Angeles - one of the few Darwin winners to survive his award-winning accomplishment.
Larry wanted to fly. He purchased 45 weather balloons and several tanks of helium. Each weather balloon, when fully inflated, would measure more than four feet across. Larry securely strapped the balloons to his lawn chair. He anchored the chair to the bumper of his jeep and inflated the balloons with the helium. He climbed on for a test while it was still only a few feet above the ground. Satisfied it would work, Larry tied himself in, along with his pellet gun and provisions.
Larry's plan was to lazily float up to a height of about 30 feet above his back yard after severing the anchor and in a few hours come back down.
When he cut the anchor cord, Larry streaked into the LA sky as if shot from a cannon. He didn't level off at 30 feet, nor did he level off at 100 feet. After climbing and climbing, he leveled off at 11,000 feet. At that height he couldn't risk popping any of the balloons, lest he unbalance the load and really find himself in trouble. So he stayed there, drifting, cold and frightened, for more than 14 hours. Then he really got in trouble. He found himself drifting into the primary approach corridor of Los Angeles International Airport.
A United pilot first spotted Larry. He radioed the tower and described passing a guy in a lawn chair with a gun. Radar confirmed the existence of an object floating 11,000 feet above the airport. LAX dispatched a helicopter to investigate. Night was falling and the offshore breeze began to flow, which carried Larry out to sea. Several miles out, the helicopter caught up with him. Once the crew determined that Larry was not dangerous, they attempted to close in for a rescue but the draft from the blades would push Larry away whenever they neared.
Finally, the helicopter ascended to a position several hundred feet above Larry and lowered a rescue line. Larry snagged the line and was hauled back to shore. As soon as Larry was hauled to earth, he was arrested by waiting members of the LAPD for violating LAX airspace. As he was led away in handcuffs, a reporter dispatched to cover the daring rescue asked why he had done it. Larry stopped, turned and replied nonchalantly, " A man can't just sit around."
Let's hear it for Larry Walters, the 1997 Darwin Award Winner.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:35 pm |
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OK BIll, I love power kiting. and some of these things are just fun...
http://www.kittyhawk.com/
, I'm looking at the qualification and restrictions for Hanggliding lessons..
Quote: You must be able to run approximately ten yards.
Forget this ! Another dangerous activity !
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:50 pm |
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I used to be really interested in things like hang gliding, ultralights, gyrocopters, experimental homebuilt aircraft. Actually that's why I got my pilots license. I didn't want to jump in an ultralight without really knowing what I was doing.
Sadly I never did fly in an ultralight. A couple of times I went to the ultralight port but their trainer with 2 seats was down. Had it been available I probably would have been hook, and well....maybe not still be here typing in a karaoke forum. Those things can be a bit dangerous. A lot of the danger is when they break them down and put them back together and forget a pin.
Maybe that is something I still will do. I'd get a high quality one though made to aircraft specs. Always wanted to get up high and cut the engine and just glide. You are usually out on the end of a boom so it's about as close as you can get to riding a broomstick (eh Morgan).
Can't believe how much I used to be into that stuff, then drifted into storm chasing, and lately lots of karaoke stuff. (It was a poor storm season).
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:53 pm |
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Quote: experimental homebuilt aircraft.
Holy Xit, that stuff fascinates me. Although I have a fear of heights, I didn't have a problem learning to hangglide on a 3-1 slope fairway... Never went that high, and always for some reason felt free, just didn't scare me.. Standing on a cliff or balcony looking down was far worse than the freedom I felt.. I learned on a Rogollo model. WHat type experimental craft ? Ultralight ? for that no license is required, but those can be death machines too.
I wanted to get into kite jumping, and my folks begged me to try to think for a change. Telling me that my ankles and joints don't knit quite as they did 35 years ago when my downhill skiing days came to an abrupt halt.. I used to race downhill, miss it... shattered tibia, fibia, femur, ankle, and as a result left leg telescoped abit.
How I managed to even hurt the ankle remains a question LOL .. I was in traction a LONG time though... I almost did a Sonny Bono.. Ice, mogul, and all sorts of stationary objects that refused to give me the right of way
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All sorts of experimental aircraft. Heck I used to want to have a gyrocopter for going to work and flying cross country. All sorts of Mad Max'esq type fantasies of flying off into the desert of New Mexico, or Arizona and just landing and filling up at gas stations out in remote areas. Do some sky camping.
Sorry to hear about your leg man. I love to ski too. Picked it up when I lived in Colorado. Never got the moguls down well, but I could do some black runs.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:45 pm |
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Bill, was the gyrocopter a backpack helicopter with a stick in the front, sort've like a helicopter type "jet pack' ? Those were advertised alot in the 60's in boyslife next to the "Buy a Jeep" for $25, $3 plans on how to convert your fathers 2.5 HP Briggs & Stratton lawn-mower into a minibike or go-cart, and
'How about a career in raising tiny intelligent and adorable sea-monkeys" ?
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"Be the most popular kid on your block, start an ant farm"
Just hit me. I have 7100 posts. I better check with doc, and see if the prozac needs to be adjusted. LMAO.. and I'll be VERY honest. My goal IS NOT to accrue post count. In my mind, I'm saying fascinating things :shock:
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:25 am |
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Atlantic City was THE sea monkey capital of the world. I think they even sold them in coin machines. I never got over my eternal and perpetual disgust when they never hatched wearing top hats and berets in their hair--I think I convinced myself a few times when I was really young they were there but by around age 14 saw through the ruse.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:12 pm |
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I was young when my folks took me to Atlantic city. I recall enjoying the penny arcades. Literally I believe they were a penny, and this arm with a crane grabbed a little toy. I think I ate mine. Best tasting metal person I ever ate too !
Now it's bedtime... Later dudes and dudettes !
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