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So far I have had one laptop stolen and zero rackmounts stolen although I am waiting for it to happen as everything that was mne that wasn't bolted into a rack has been stolen within the last two months. Have the cops looking into it and know exactly who the theif is as he admitted doing it.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

I'm converting the Pioneer laser discs to a hard drive.   These are very big files.  To get the host program to run without glitching during the song playback, while you are searching and selecting the next song, you need more power, Scotty.    Have experimented with it enough to know.    The song will (for lack of a better term) skip.  The music and the video, depending on what else you're doing.   At least 2 gig processor.   It's a real drain on the system, to play the videos and mouse around.    My experimental laptop is a 2.4.     Lesser ones, under 2 have been a problem.  

BigGERdog is always better.    :yes:

I think I'm talking myself into 2 rack mounts, one for backup.

I've personally used the Pinnacle product for receiving input in from any video source, whether it's a Pioneer laser player, video vcr, etc...

The songs once recorded are anywhere from 3O MB to 100 MB. Fortunately I ran into someone that has the files all done, so I stopped at three laser discs.

There are some avi compression software that reduces the file size... I found that if I went 25%, I got the best results.

And the ones I personally did, I was doing them on a 1.3 GHZ machine, bigdog...

I would rather have the processor head room, than to have problems.     Do it right the first time.    That's my motto.  It only costs a little more to go first (BIGDOG) class.

but I've not HAD any problems...

the only reason I've been debating you on this, is you make it sound like you HAVE to have that much processor power to do what you want.

You don't. It's YOUR personal preference, not the technical ability to do so.

Okay, I'm done!

Have you put the lasers on a hard drive?  It takes a 400 gig drive to hold 2000 songs.

Each side of the laser disc averages 1,800,000 KB.  That's one hour of video.    Divide that by 14 songs and you' get the file size for each song.   125,000 approx.
The computer is working it's nuts off.  

When I play a video and try to do anything else on a lessor computer, the video hiccups and skips.  I can't have that.   I know it works with a 2.4 gig, because I have one now.   The play back is way better than my VCD files.

I know how to get there, I just need a car.

I'm just curious.  Why would you want to use Laser Disc (LD) karaoke, when CDG (MP3G) sounds so much better?  I stopped playing my LDs years ago.  The difference in sound quality between LD and CDG is like music coming from a transistor radio and a Mackie SRM450... Okay, I'm exaggerating here... But the point is that you will still get the same sound quality after you rip the Laserdisc to a PC format.

Only in the way YOU are doing it.

I said the file size of what I had done, and then I used an AVI compressor to limit that even further.

Now, after I DID three of them, I found someone that had done the whole series that way. SO I stopped recreating the wheel, and went along with what they did.

What part of my previous information did you miss?     I am putting them on a hard drive to play them at karaoke.     The format, I believe is MP3.    It takes a 400 gig hard drive to get them, plus some Tip Tops and others, all on this way.    IMO the quality of the music done by Pioneer is outstanding.   99.9% of their versions are my first choice for play.  They only have about 2,000 songs, so it's just a fraction of my songs, but I like the videos too.    I judge the best song by how close they sound to what you heard on the radio.   To just pick a company and say it is the best, is goofy.     Compare it to something that everyone can relate to.   How close do the songs sound compared to the actual Group on the radio.    Don't just say, oh this company is the best.   If I want to hear a copycat band, then I want to be able to recognise the songs they play, as I remember them.    Not how they want to play it.    The closer they sound to the original, the better they are.   I want them to sound the same note for note.  They exact guitar sounds, the same background vocals, special effects and all.   No other company that I have heard comes as close to the Beatles as Pioneer.    I only put 1 version of a song in my song books.   I compare them side by side, in two different machines at the same time.   Switching back and forth.   I listen to the background vocals, the guitar leads, the drums, etc.    Is the tempo right.    The one that I chose for my book, is the one that sounds just as close to the original as possible.

I don't just say its a Sound Choice, it must be correct or the best version.    Some smaller companies have actually surprised me with their versions of a song, in a side by side comparison.    But how they sound against the radio version, is my true test.    That's the one everybody hears and remembers.   It's the one they sing to in their house or car, when they buy an album.   Most aren't buying a crappy karaoke version to sing with.    When I mix a karaoke song, I mix it to sound like it does on the radio.

So using the format I have chosen to use, takes a 2 gig or better processor to play flawlessly.   And to still be able to queue the next songs and mouse around doing searches.     I have a $2,000 Sony Vaio 2.4 PCG-GRV550 laptop right here, already set up.   I know what it takes to run right.

Dog, I've had the Lasers on my hard drive for over a YEAR now, playing them at a show.

okay... for the braindead among us...

It's on a 300gb hard drive, and the pioneer lasers are only taking up 78GB of that...

Don't believe me?



You can ALSO scan my songlist for any that are identified with PKL
http://www.knightshow.com/master.htm
http://www.knightshow.com/masterartist.pdf
http://www.knightshow.com/mastertitles.pdf

You feel you need all that power to do it "flawlessly"... well BULLY for you... but that doesn't mean  that your way is the ONLY way of doing it, so get off your high horse!

What format are they converted too.     What is the playback quality?

I'm telling you how I want to do it and what I want to use to get to that end.   I have experimented with it and that's what I need.   A 1.6 processor had some trouble playing them without glitching.   So I want 2 or more.    I can barely tell the difference between the hard drive and the original.    Playing them side by side on the computer, split screen.    That is why they take up so much drive space.    These are at the highest quality we can get for now.   One side of a laser disc is 1,800,000 KB average.   I have the entire Pioneer Pop/rock set, all the Pioneer country, and the Pioneer UK set, plus 20 some Tip Tops and a few other assorted companies.

How is telling someone [highlight=crimson]my[/highlight] requirements, acting like I'm on a high horse or saying that mine was the only way.   (Where did I say that?)    I only stated some facts pertaining to me and the quality of the show that[highlight=crimson] I [/highlight]want to put on.

Someone else keeps telling me, [highlight=crimson]their[/highlight] way and that they can do it with less.    At what price for quality?

I started this thread to ask for info on how to do the quality I want to do.     Not what you want  to do.      So Giddy up cowboy.

You crack me up... where did you say that? I'm telling you that at a 1.3 ghz machine the transfers worked as did the compression.

Oh really? You don't say it in THIS post or any other...
No opinions... actual experience, and yet you are tossing what I'm telling you works, and HAS worked.

Whatever...

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