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jdmeister
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:20 pm |
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eben @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:48 am wrote: jdmeister @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:58 pm wrote: I'm building a 2U rack computer for karaoke.. Pentium 4, 3.0 gig CPU, ECS motherboard, (with s-video and composite out) 2 gig of DDR2 ram, 500 gig Hd for data, 160 for the OS.. Motherboard and CPU, $119.00 Ram $149.00 500 Seagate Hd 5 year warr. $199.00 160 gig, 49.00 Other parts off the shelf.. Picked up a Toshiba laptop too.. (Just in case.. ) I just built my system and my suggestion is to stay away from 2U. I built mine with 3U, which allowed a full PCI/PCI-X cards to be installed verticalled, not horizontally using stacker card. It's too much pain to do it. Here is what I used to build mine: - My 3U case. This case is perfect because it's made from aluminum, which cuts down the weight of the system. It also conducts heat well so it stays cooler. It's a bit noisy but I am planning on replacing the fans with the super quiet 28db fans in the future. About $200, higher cost but better case than most. - AMD 64 3500+ CPU with 512k cache. About $100 - Asus A8N-VM 939. Has only 2 PCI and 1 PCI-X slots and two memory slots but more than enough for me. Has built in GeF6100 PCI-X Graphics. About $65 - Patriot 2x1GB 400MHz DDR with heat sink. About $105 with rebate ($50 rebate) - Airlink Gigabit Ethernet card $20 - Maxtor 300GB, 7200RPM SATA drive, $80 - Plextor PX-760A DVD/CD Writer $120 - ESI Maya44 PCI sound card About $100 - Gyration Wirelss compact keyboard/mouse combo $99 - Gem 17" LCD screen $99 after rebate ($60 rebate) - I bought a Viewsonic Q7 17" monitor earlier for about $130 for the singer screen - My expensive venture - Infrant ReadyNAS 1U NAS system $500 barebone with 3x Maxtor 300GB 7200 RPM SATA drives $79 each. - Compact NETGEAR 5 port Gigabit Ethernet Switch $60 I also have AMD based eMachines laptop as my back up system. Both my systems and NAS gets plugged in to the switch. I am thinking of adding a wirelss so I can access the entire system from my office while it's in the garage.
I looked at several systems, and the 3U was just a bit tall..
The mobo has "high end audio and video" on the board, and includes s-video and composite out header..
So if all works well, no full size pci cards needed..
I only have 375 gig of data, but figured the system could use the "Head Room" with the 500 gig.
Of course, a "Backup" in the car if it crashes..
My buddy is running a system on an HP laptop.. Works fine..
I chose the Toshiba because I have one allready..
I'm looking at a "Shuttle" type case to reduce the footprint a bit..
I don't mind playing with it a bit to get what I want.. :dancin:
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Keith02
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:52 pm |
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eben @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:48 am wrote: jdmeister @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:58 pm wrote: I'm building a 2U rack computer for karaoke.. Pentium 4, 3.0 gig CPU, ECS motherboard, (with s-video and composite out) 2 gig of DDR2 ram, 500 gig Hd for data, 160 for the OS.. Motherboard and CPU, $119.00 Ram $149.00 500 Seagate Hd 5 year warr. $199.00 160 gig, 49.00 Other parts off the shelf.. Picked up a Toshiba laptop too.. (Just in case.. ) I just built my system and my suggestion is to stay away from 2U. I built mine with 3U, which allowed a full PCI/PCI-X cards to be installed verticalled, not horizontally using stacker card. It's too much pain to do it. Here is what I used to build mine: - My 3U case. This case is perfect because it's made from aluminum, which cuts down the weight of the system. It also conducts heat well so it stays cooler. It's a bit noisy but I am planning on replacing the fans with the super quiet 28db fans in the future. About $200, higher cost but better case than most. - AMD 64 3500+ CPU with 512k cache. About $100 - Asus A8N-VM 939. Has only 2 PCI and 1 PCI-X slots and two memory slots but more than enough for me. Has built in GeF6100 PCI-X Graphics. About $65 - Patriot 2x1GB 400MHz DDR with heat sink. About $105 with rebate ($50 rebate) - Airlink Gigabit Ethernet card $20 - Maxtor 300GB, 7200RPM SATA drive, $80 - Plextor PX-760A DVD/CD Writer $120 - ESI Maya44 PCI sound card About $100 - Gyration Wirelss compact keyboard/mouse combo $99 - Gem 17" LCD screen $99 after rebate ($60 rebate) - I bought a Viewsonic Q7 17" monitor earlier for about $130 for the singer screen - My expensive venture - Infrant ReadyNAS 1U NAS system $500 barebone with 3x Maxtor 300GB 7200 RPM SATA drives $79 each. - Compact NETGEAR 5 port Gigabit Ethernet Switch $60 I also have AMD based eMachines laptop as my back up system. Both my systems and NAS gets plugged in to the switch. I am thinking of adding a wirelss so I can access the entire system from my office while it's in the garage. EBEN, you da man!
It sounds like you really did your homework when you speced out your machine!
I agree with you totally on the full size PCI stuff. No onboard sound and video can do it as good as even the cheapest add-on cards....The onboard stuff is intended to serve a server that streams media via the web, not provide clarity and oomph to an outboard pro PA in a live environ.
Yes, fersure go wireless!......don't leave that beatiful beast unlinked and sitting out in the garage....Patch it into your world where you can reach out and touch it constantly....Once it is in reach like that, it will benifit from your attention....It's a work in progress and should remain so.
I'm glad to see you stopped whining about finding a date. You are best left to yourself right now.....Keep focusing on you and your interests for now.....Be very good to yourself my friend....I swear to you that love will appear....You will notice it when it tears you away from the most demanding of your indulgences....Then turn away and make it tear you away again.
Hey, when that happens, please remember me and accept my first offer on your music machine, ok? :D :hug:
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jdmeister
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:21 am |
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Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2002 4:12 pm Posts: 7709 Songs: 1 Location: Hollyweird, Ca. Been Liked: 1091 times
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Keith02 @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:52 pm wrote: eben @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:48 am wrote: jdmeister @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:58 pm wrote: I'm building a 2U rack computer for karaoke.. Pentium 4, 3.0 gig CPU, ECS motherboard, (with s-video and composite out) 2 gig of DDR2 ram, 500 gig Hd for data, 160 for the OS.. Motherboard and CPU, $119.00 Ram $149.00 500 Seagate Hd 5 year warr. $199.00 160 gig, 49.00 Other parts off the shelf.. Picked up a Toshiba laptop too.. (Just in case.. ) I just built my system and my suggestion is to stay away from 2U. I built mine with 3U, which allowed a full PCI/PCI-X cards to be installed verticalled, not horizontally using stacker card. It's too much pain to do it. Here is what I used to build mine: - My 3U case. This case is perfect because it's made from aluminum, which cuts down the weight of the system. It also conducts heat well so it stays cooler. It's a bit noisy but I am planning on replacing the fans with the super quiet 28db fans in the future. About $200, higher cost but better case than most. - AMD 64 3500+ CPU with 512k cache. About $100 - Asus A8N-VM 939. Has only 2 PCI and 1 PCI-X slots and two memory slots but more than enough for me. Has built in GeF6100 PCI-X Graphics. About $65 - Patriot 2x1GB 400MHz DDR with heat sink. About $105 with rebate ($50 rebate) - Airlink Gigabit Ethernet card $20 - Maxtor 300GB, 7200RPM SATA drive, $80 - Plextor PX-760A DVD/CD Writer $120 - ESI Maya44 PCI sound card About $100 - Gyration Wirelss compact keyboard/mouse combo $99 - Gem 17" LCD screen $99 after rebate ($60 rebate) - I bought a Viewsonic Q7 17" monitor earlier for about $130 for the singer screen - My expensive venture - Infrant ReadyNAS 1U NAS system $500 barebone with 3x Maxtor 300GB 7200 RPM SATA drives $79 each. - Compact NETGEAR 5 port Gigabit Ethernet Switch $60 I also have AMD based eMachines laptop as my back up system. Both my systems and NAS gets plugged in to the switch. I am thinking of adding a wirelss so I can access the entire system from my office while it's in the garage. EBEN, you da man! It sounds like you really did your homework when you speced out your machine! I agree with you totally on the full size PCI stuff. No onboard sound and video can do it as good as even the cheapest add-on cards....The onboard stuff is intended to serve a server that streams media via the web, not provide clarity and oomph to an outboard pro PA in a live environ. Yes, fersure go wireless!......don't leave that beatiful beast unlinked and sitting out in the garage....Patch it into your world where you can reach out and touch it constantly....Once it is in reach like that, it will benifit from your attention....It's a work in progress and should remain so. I'm glad to see you stopped whining about finding a date. You are best left to yourself right now.....Keep focusing on you and your interests for now.....Be very good to yourself my friend....I swear to you that love will appear....You will notice it when it tears you away from the most demanding of your indulgences....Then turn away and make it tear you away again. Hey, when that happens, please remember me and accept my first offer on your music machine, ok? :D :hug:
Maybe true ten years ago, however things have changed here in L.A.
My mobo has ATI Radeon video, and 8 channel surround sound..
SATA hardware raid and support for DDR2 or DDR memory..
Yes, it is equipped with wireless to connect here with my Netgear RangeMax 240 MIMO router.
Gotta keep the updates good..
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Flipper
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:51 am |
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ok keith you can't have braggin rights without pic's LMAO
so let's see some pictures of your pride and joy LOL
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karyoker
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:12 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:43 pm Posts: 6784 Location: Fort Collins Colorado USA Been Liked: 5 times
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Quote: Gotta keep the updates good..
I went wireless and got all the windows updates now I cant even change a hard drive or video board without YOU HAVE 3 DAYS TO ACTIVATE
I got mine all tore apart now and when I get it back together I'll Have to go Back on the phone and re-activate. Jd do you have the phone number handy to activate linux?
If it wasnt for the dual display bs in 2k Id go back to it.
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jdmeister
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:49 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2002 4:12 pm Posts: 7709 Songs: 1 Location: Hollyweird, Ca. Been Liked: 1091 times
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Quote: Jd do you have the phone number handy to activate linux?
No activation required for Linux..
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eben
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:01 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 3:42 pm Posts: 1395 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Been Liked: 0 time
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Keith02 @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:52 pm wrote: EBEN, you da man!
It sounds like you really did your homework when you speced out your machine!
I agree with you totally on the full size PCI stuff. No onboard sound and video can do it as good as even the cheapest add-on cards....The onboard stuff is intended to serve a server that streams media via the web, not provide clarity and oomph to an outboard pro PA in a live environ.
Yes, fersure go wireless!......don't leave that beatiful beast unlinked and sitting out in the garage....Patch it into your world where you can reach out and touch it constantly....Once it is in reach like that, it will benifit from your attention....It's a work in progress and should remain so.
I'm glad to see you stopped whining about finding a date. You are best left to yourself right now.....Keep focusing on you and your interests for now.....Be very good to yourself my friend....I swear to you that love will appear....You will notice it when it tears you away from the most demanding of your indulgences....Then turn away and make it tear you away again.
Hey, when that happens, please remember me and accept my first offer on your music machine, ok? :D :hug:
Thanks Keith. Yeah, given up on women for a bit. Just left my last job also so I have a lot of time on my hand right now. I am trying get my system up to snuff and doing some upgrades. I have done completely digital on both KJ and DJ side. I have a laptop for a back up and put all music on my NAS so either machine can access at high speed.
Just got new front panel assembled so all my connections can be accessed from the front, except for the power. Working on the power cable too. That way I won't ever have to open up my case in the back to connect cables, all done in the front. I will post a picture soon.
I have gone flatpanel as well. Both my screen and singer screen in flatpanel. I have a picture of my singer flatpanel stand on one of other threads here. It works great.
Next, I need to get a skirt for my table and maybe a panel to hide my stuff on the table. I will be set then.
EDIT: Picture of my panel. Still not finished but it's close.
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jdmeister
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:48 pm |
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Quote: Next, I need to get a skirt
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Retronut
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:50 pm |
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Eben, if you get heels with the skirt be sure to post a picture of that too. :whistle:
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eben
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:29 am |
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All right wise guys. I knew I should have been more careful. LOL
I got my skirt for the table made by a local seamstress. It's going to cost me $40 plus $10 for the fabric. It will be ready this weekend. It's not too bad.
I got my rack almost finished. I will post the picture this weekend after getting one more thing finshed up, power connection.
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mroctober
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:04 am |
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Just hope your Rack is as nice as Crystal's
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Keith02
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:17 am |
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Flipper @ Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:51 pm wrote: ok keith you can't have braggin rights without pic's LMAO
so let's see some pictures of your pride and joy LOL Ok, OK!...I gotta pull it outta the rack in the next day or two anyway....No use sending pics with it racked cause all you would see is the front of it, you wanna see the guts, huh?...
Ok, I'll get a pic of it racked and then a few of the innards....
I am proud of the mods I had to do to the harddrive section...If you buy the same case you will want to do the same mod or the drives are impossible to get to and they will run extremely hot! I wish I had taked "before" pics of the harddrive section so you would better appreciate the mods I performed and why they are necessary.
Basically, you remove and toss all but one piece of the harddrive section...You only keep the stamped steel piece the drives mount to...then you turn it 180 degrees and remount it in ruffly the same location...The mod allows you to easily reach the connector ends on the drives and solves a very serious cooling problem.
The 5.25 drive section is perfect!....It pops out from the top and is shock mounted. It has room for 4 drives....The most you will install tho is 2 drives, so that means you have room for all kinds of nifty/handy stuff that will fit in the remaining 5.25 drive faceplates. You can find inexpensive 5.25 plates that contain all your rearmounted plugs n jacks from your sound and video cards...you can even mount a plate there with knobs and readouts to monitor and control your cooling fans.
I'm betting you too will remove the drop down key lock door like I did...It is not necessary and certainly a pain to leave it there.....Don't be afraid to remove it, the drives and leds/buttons it covers are recessed and not exposed to damage with the door gone....A locking door is good if you have a server that you want to protect from the casual/careless button pusher, but not required for the KJ who needs ready acess to his cd drives.
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eben
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:42 pm |
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Keith02 @ Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:02 am wrote: I must agree on that RACK!
Ok, you asked for it. Here are pictures of my rack. I must warn you, they are bigger than you have seen in the past. You may want the children to leave the room.
My rack next to my custom built LCD screen stand.
Close up of bottom section of the rack.
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Keith02
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:40 pm |
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I never thought i'd say this to a guy, but that's a nice rack Eben!
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:43 pm |
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OOOOO, does anyone get to show off their racks????
Decent little set-up, can make out pretty much everything except the unit 3rd down??
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Keith02
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:51 pm |
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Lonman @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:43 pm wrote: OOOOO, does anyone get to show off their racks????
Decent little set-up, can make out pretty much everything except the unit 3rd down?? List what ya got in there Eben....I'm curious which BBE you have.
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karyoker
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:55 pm |
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Eban ya got mic2 too hot...
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eben
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:26 pm |
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Lonman @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:43 pm wrote: OOOOO, does anyone get to show off their racks????
Decent little set-up, can make out pretty much everything except the unit 3rd down??
That would be my S-Video 4x4 switcher. I route my signal from my PC and convert it over to S-Video signal for any external TV.
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