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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:40 am 
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I get carried away in here flirting. I hate when my wife feels that I am more popular here than she is. If she didn't have a life and a real job, she would be much more popular than I am.

I don't think I've gone too ar in flirting with anyone here but I still have to watch myself on occasion.

Are there rules to this that I just don't know about? Where I grew up any form of communication between a male and a female was often considered flirting. All I know is what I learned from that environment was all wrong and I have to make up my own rules.

When does flirting go too far?


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I should also add that I don't want anyone to get the idea that I am coming on to them. As we all know, some things can come pretty close, then it is a matter of interpretation.

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I never took your playing around seriously. My goodness like
I'd really think you'd date Cookie.  LMAO

I suppose if someone came right out and pm'd you they wanted to get together they'd be crossing the line.

Other than that I think most people are just having fun.

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Babs @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:48 am wrote:
I never took your playing around seriously. My goodness like
I'd really think you'd date Cookie.  LMAO

I suppose if someone came right out and pm'd you they wanted to get together they'd be crossing the line.

Other than that I think most people are just having fun.


Quite true Babs. There is a little grey area in between i think.

I know I need to get out and have a life. For now, KS is a very big part of my social environment, a little too big actually. I prefer to hang out with people I have somehing in common with. This website gives me a lot of those to choose from. Another thing is the fact that the people here are a lot friendlier than the "performers" I have met recently. Actors can have such big egos and so can musicians. Unfortunately those are the people that I prefer to hang out with. Singers fall into that catagory but karaoke people tend to be a lot more down to earth.

I am actually a social creature. Growing up in theater, we had cast parties all the time. I dreaded the end of every show because There was always the chance that I would never again see the friends I just made over the last few months.


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Babs @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:48 am wrote:
I never took your playing around seriously. My goodness like
I'd really think you'd date Cookie.  LMAO

Well I would! :D


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This is only type in here. There's no reason people can't play. Flirting doesn't mean dishonesty.. There's a difference IMHO..There are degree's of being flirtatious.  Personally, to me it's really boring, it doesn't improve my real life, it doesn't fulfill anything in real, I can't feel anything when it's just "type" unless there's already a strong bond in real... That's just me... I don't find romance in "type".  (but I'm not moved by poetry either, so maybe I'm just hardened like that, words don't mean much to me, I've seen too much word-play and lying)..If people can't tell the difference between typed flirting/ head-games using words only (however the person has never encouraged you to call them, has never given their address, and has kept a distance) and just is writing creatively, the people getting taken in by "online flirting" are the ones with the problem. It's easy to flirt without being dishonest, there's always been a difference (to me at least) between online playing, and real life "leading on". To me among adults it's harmless play, and if two adults can't differentiate between typed play, and REAL life, that's their own problem..  I wouldn't want to lead on a YOUNGER person (teenager) with anything that might be misinterpretted, I also feel that there's a difference between 'flirting" and dishonesty.. In type, I think just about all that's not deliberate, or overt selfish dishonesty (AMONG ADULTS) goes. It's my responsibility to take care of ME emotionally, no-one else should be expected to treat me in a guarded fashion. This is ONLY type. Depends on what a person means by "flirtatious" too of course.  I think there's also a responsibility if things get out of hand for one or both parties to put an end to it.  A person is pretty weak if they fall head over heals for the first person who show's compassion in writing only. But there's nothing saying emotionally unstable people, and hustlers/con-artists alike aren't allowed on the internet.

Adults have a responsibility for taking care of themselves and knowing to keep a safe distance in certain instances.  We are responsible for US... To protect our CC info, to know the internet, and to know what's real,  not to fall in love with "Tiffany" and "amber" because they personally have invited you to their nudie pages. If lonely, lost souls think the internet is a safe, totally risk-free environment to search for love, and to supplement what they can't find in real,  they have some SERIOUS learning to do..

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I need to get out more too. I'm such a home body when I'm not
working.

It's funny I'm not a phone person at all! But I'll sit and chat on the computer for hours.

I've decided to go out on my off night and do karaoke with a bunch of my regulars. That should be fun.

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Flirting has gone too far when......

A. Your attraction slaps you with a large dead fish in public

B. When they slam dunk you by french kissing a stranger/passerby in front of you.

C.  When they pour an expensive drink they paid for over your head.

D.  When you look up to discover you are surrounded by large bouncers and none of them are related to or boyfriends with your target.

Please feel free to add to this list.


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Steven Kaplan @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:08 am wrote:
This is only type in here. There's no reason people can't play. Flirting doesn't mean dishonesty.. There's a difference IMHO..There are degree's of being flirtatious.  Personally, to me it's really boring, it doesn't improve my real life, it doesn't fulfill anything in real, I can't feel anything when it's just "type" unless there's already a strong bond in real... That's just me... I don't find romance in "type". If people can't tell the difference between typed flirting/ head-games using words only (however the person has never encouraged you to call them, has never given their address, and has kept a distance) and just is writing creatively, the people getting taken in by "online flirting" are the ones with the problem. It's easy to flirt without being dishonest, there's always been a difference (to me at least) between online playing, and real life "leading on". To me among adults it's harmless play, and if two adults can't differentiate between typed play, and REAL life, that's their own problem..  I wouldn't want to lead on a YOUNGER person (teenager) with anything that might be misinterpretted, I also feel that there's a difference between 'flirting" and dishonesty.. In type, I think just about all that's not deliberate, or overt selfish dishonesty (AMONG ADULTS) goes. It's my responsibility to take care of ME emotionally, no-one else should be expected to treat me in a guarded fashion. This is ONLY type. Depends on what a person means be "flirtatious" of course.  I think there's also a responsibility if things get out of hand for one or both parties to put an end to it...

JMO


These are good things to keep in mind. I'm guessing since you've "been around" you might be stating what is common knowledge amoung people of your internet background.

Babs @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:10 am wrote:
I need to get out more too. I'm such a home body when I'm not
working.

It's funny I'm not a phone person at all! But I'll sit and chat on the computer for hours.

I've decided to go out on my off night and do karaoke with a bunch of my regulars. That should be fun.


It's a good thing you got to riding a few days ago. If GiGi and I were dating again, we would probably do exactly the same things we did the first time. We usually went to the karaoke club where we met.


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E. when your wife leaves you for the milk man

F. When you get fired for sexual harrassment

G. When you come home with 2 black eyes

H. When you hate yourself in the morning

How'd I do?

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Babs @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:16 am wrote:
E. when your wife leaves you for the milk man

F. When you get fired for sexual harrassment

G. When you come home with 2 black eyes

H. When you hate yourself in the morning

How'd I do?
Very well but if this list gets too long I won't be able to write it on my hand.

Actually, I could extend it down my arm so that's not a problem now that I think about it.


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Babs @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:16 am wrote:
E. when your wife leaves you for the milk man

F. When you get fired for sexual harrassment

G. When you come home with 2 black eyes

H. When you hate yourself in the morning

How'd I do?
The voice of experience?....Keep talking least anyone miss what you got to say...you might save a few from serious embarrassment.

....and you might reveal how best to flirt with you! LMAO


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What if the guy brags about the size of his hands?

I do that a lot. Actually I complain that my hands are just too big often. ...Or I mention that I have a big nose for a gentile.


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Chuck,  The first few years I had an internet account (being the type of person I am) I became addicted to America Online Special interest rooms, Porn area's etc.. How we often work on the internet, what we gravitate towards, is usually a reflection of who we are in real.  I have a responsibility to know what my behaviour characteristics are, and to take care of ME..  IE...  IF I'm sexually compulsive,  falling for a nude webcam is because of MY illness,  it's MY OWN fault..  Plain and Simple.. When we play with fire, we risk getting burnt. WE ARE ADULTS. (supposedly) Online is only a type of real,  it's not our here and now real IMHO...

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sorry but an experienced woman would disagree with the whole
hand, foot, or nose theory.  LMAO

I find if a guy brags about it - he's all hot air. LMAO

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As a 50 year old,  If I go into an amusement park,  get on the "whip" or whatever it's called now.  I have no right crying and blaming anyone else for spending the rest of the day puking my brains out.  

This is how I see the internet,  if people can't handle certain things, THEY should avoid them.  We must know our own boundaries, people WILL play us here.

If we open up TOO much,  we risk getting stomped on too !  Never wise to say anything you aren't willing to defend.

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I never was a good flirter if I got to liking a gal alot I couldnt even talk to her ...


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Babs @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:24 am wrote:
sorry but an experienced woman would disagree with the whole
hand, foot, or nose theory.  LMAO

I find if a guy brags about it - he's all hot air. LMAO

So I've heard. Jut one more reason not to brag.

I just enjoy having big hands, and I like my nose.



...and Kappy, personal responsibility? In this day of convenience? If only personal responsibility where defended our upheld more often. I found that I gain self respect by taking responsibility for the things that I should claim.


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...and Kappy, personal responsibility? In this day of convenience? If only personal responsibility where defended our upheld more often. I found that I gain self respect by taking responsibility for the things that I should claim.



I know Chuck,  Not taking some personal responsibility, was never an option for me even as a younger kid.  I can't understand adults that believe there's ANY excuse for not taking responsibility for choices in life.  That doesn't mean we will always be correct, or make the correct choice, but it's OUR OWN doing as well when ANY relationship works, or doesn't work. How the heck can adults believe it's up to others on the internet to "watch over their best interest" ?   That eludes me. The internet is not a 12-step group for lonely hearts by any stretch of the imagination.

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karyoker @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:30 am wrote:
I never was a good flirter if I got to liking a gal alot I couldnt even talk to her ...


My girlfriends always knew when I liked a guy because i would get real
quiet and not say much. I get goofy. One time this gorgeous GQ looking guy walked
into the office. I saw him get out of his Lexus from my office window. I went out
to great him and when I was walking him into my office I walked into the wall.  LMAO  I'm so smooth.

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