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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:51 am 
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SATA is fine.....the big recording studios use PC's with sata drives....If you want to have open tons of apps, then use plenty of ram and a fast CPU-maybe even a dou core.


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and a fast CPU-maybe even a dou core.



Yup keith this my latest one.. here But the fan is big as the electric fan in my van Well almost I run a 2 unit and had to cut a 3 "hole in the top of the case to exhaust the cpu.... Its fast Running roxbox and recording the cpu usage is idling at 2%  max peak 3%... So I need sata I was having trouble with the old Ati 7000 dual video locking up It hasnt lately....


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karyoker @ Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:14 am wrote:
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and a fast CPU-maybe even a dou core.



Yup keith this my latest one.. here But the fan is big as the electric fan in my van Well almost I run a 2 unit and had to cut a 3 "hole in the top of the case to exhaust the cpu.... Its fast Running roxbox and recording the cpu usage is idling at 2%  max peak 3%... So I need sata I was having trouble with the old Ati 7000 dual video locking up It hasnt lately....
2 MB L2 cache!...WOW! A music makers dream!

Is your video card AGP or PCI? If PCI you will never be able to do much with it...If AGP, is it 2x,4x, or 8x?

What chipset does you MOBO use? .,,And how is your ram busses set up?...


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karyoker @ Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:22 am wrote:
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win2k does support the dual and more video options...


Yea but it stretches the desktop screws up the resolution and doesnt allow true multiple display. Its not dual disply its stretched display... Neither win2k or xp will handle mulutiple bulky drives if you are running a program that it is stretching the limits off system resources. Its too busy looking for illegal crap and crap to report to big brother.
I think either you're mistaken buddy, or I'm still not grasping at what you're talking about. I've been utilizing the dual (and TRIPLE) display mode for many years!! The resolution is entirely dependant not only on your computer, but also the type of video devices you use. I've had good and bad results with a number of video cards vs the motherboards/chipsets.

Or are you talking dual display with independant backgrounds?


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What I mean Matt 2k doesnt have 2 different desktops it stretches the desktop and actually stretches the wall paper across both screens With XP you click extend this desktop and it puts another with no icons Then you drag any window to it and size ..


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and that's exactly the way MY desktop looks for my 2nd window.

Not a clone.
not the same desktop stretched where your window pops up it's directly in the middle...
a true 2nd window, where you drag and drop, increase or decrease size, etc.

with 2k!


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:) I know Matt Ive done it too and change the ini file in winamp to read only..My bro had a gal working for him and half the time one of us would have to go down and setup her windows before the show..more often me because Lanny lives 30 miles out of town.

We started with 89se and cavs pe player.. That really had her  buffaloed LOL


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knightshow @ Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:37 pm wrote:
and that's exactly the way MY desktop looks for my 2nd window.

Not a clone.
not the same desktop stretched where your window pops up it's directly in the middle...
a true 2nd window, where you drag and drop, increase or decrease size, etc.

with 2k!
How are you doing that Matt? I have nothing that will let me manage the two screens independantly. On the three computers I use for karaoke they all stretch the desktop. Two of them are running XP, the other is 2K.

Do you have to install another app to get this to work?


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Win2K DOES have an issue seeing the secondary monitor if it's not hooked up and powered up when you boot the computer. Otherwise it'll default to the single mode. Now XP on the other hand, will automatically sense a new device hooked up to it.

it depends on your video card... the make and model. But they all follow a basic ability to go to work thru the desktop properties, Display, settings or backgrounds, click on advanced, and in those tabs you'll see a tab specifically for your video card, like Nvidia, GEForce, Radeon, Althon, or whatever. PCI or AGP, it shouldn't matter.

In most cases, the instructions that come with the card that has a dual display capability will walk you though doing it.

You'll see the various options to identify your devices. With some software you CAN force the connection, but I never liked doing that. At this identify screen, you have the options to see the various video formats you want to use.

Found this... it may help:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... nitor.mspx

The only thing I could find at microsoft.com for win2k support on multimonitors as that the third party video cards have instructions on how to set them up! LOL!

Sorry... if you give me your video card info (make and model no), I might be able to help!


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That's perfect Matt. It points me in the right direction. As I was considering the possibilities where, settings in XP or 2K, settings in the card firmware, or finally the bad one, installing a third party software to do this.

I am using a GeForce FX 5500, AGP 8x, 256MB DDR, latest driver and firmware.


I will be able to get the info from what you posted above. Thanks a lot for the help.



On Topic, Dan, I don't disagree with your motivation for your stance in this thread at all. Since I am on a fixed income and trying to get off of it by starting a business, it would be nice if my OS didn't time out. I can't afford to buy another OS for some time and I believe self protection is not the best reason to back out of a contractual obligation on the part of Microsoft. Had this happened to me a year sooner, it would be a whole different ballgame.

Not to sound harsh but I disagree with the your position, Dan. I respect the fact that Microsoft needs to protect themselves from illegal use of their intellectual property. The burden is on Microsoft and not the consumer to keep the OS working.

If my car bursts into flames because of a design flaw, which has happened to me, I blame the company for that flaw. For example, forcing 15 amps into a circuit that is only desighned to have 1.5 amps in the cruise control shut-off circuit. Had it burned my house, I would have sued. I just droped it and chalked it up to experience. I will never own another truck or car by that company.


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now this has two or three video ports... with the right adaptors, you can put the image out to tv, other monitors, etc.

http://www.directron.com/howtovideo.html this looks like it's meant for the GeForce cards...


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Knightshow Is that a Radeon 9200? if so It is great for low profile computers as it comes with a conversion kit to make it fit in smaller spaces.

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Concerning WGA - sounds bad and stupid. Isn't all they need software that detects hardware change, and if it changes considerably and runs risk of being illegal then they have it disabled until re-activated. This should be a normal step without hassles if you install a drive or motherboard or anything. Basically it disables the old configuration in the database and enables a new one for you - your product id. Obviously there can't be more than one product id in the database. An additional one should be invalidated if one valid one currently exists. Am I missing anything? This doesn't seem like brain surgery or rocket science. I really don't care if Microsoft wants me to validate occasionally. I would be pissed though if they invalidated something legal though. So - have to agree Microsoft has the clowns role in this.


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Yeah, but no amount of hardware change should matter if they detect JUST ONE computer running that ONE product key......Duh, Microsoft!....I'm changing their name to Microflacid. LMAO


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Keith02 @ Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:10 pm wrote:
Yeah, but no amount of hardware change should matter if they detect JUST ONE computer running that ONE product key......Duh, Microsoft!....I'm changing their name to Microflacid. LMAO


That is absolutely true!!! How simple. What a joke. Well, apparently on us that is.


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Guess what? If you uninstall Windows XP and don't contact them about it for oer a year, they let you reactivate.

The free copy I got from MS themselves was on their bad list. I mentioned this earlier in this thread. It is not on their bad list anymore. I just reinstalled since I had to reinstall the OS I was using due to cheap memory filthing up my OS over the last two days. My OS was trashed so I figured what the heck, I'll back everything up and try installing XP and it letme keep it after installing SP2 and all of the security updates that apply.

There is still the chance that they are backing off on their WGA certs. I will see how this goes.

At the moment I'm a happy camper. :D


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The sad news is, they put the bad CD Key numbers in the Service Pack 1 and 2 updates..

Good luck on the one year deal.. :drums:


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Chuck2 @ Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:28 pm wrote:
Guess what? If you uninstall Windows XP and don't contact them about it for oer a year, they let you reactivate.

The free copy I got from MS themselves was on their bad list. I mentioned this earlier in this thread. It is not on their bad list anymore. I just reinstalled since I had to reinstall the OS I was using due to cheap memory filthing up my OS over the last two days. My OS was trashed so I figured what the heck, I'll back everything up and try installing XP and it letme keep it after installing SP2 and all of the security updates that apply.

There is still the chance that they are backing off on their WGA certs. I will see how this goes.

At the moment I'm a happy camper. :D
I don't understand how cheap RAM can filth up your OS...Porn sites do it quick fersure tho LOL ....Try installing all certified flash, java, Quiktime...ect...then setting IE to not allow drive-by installs of same...Bad RAM will cause stalls and sometimes lockups, but not filthup your OS.

...also upgrade IE6 to IE7 and turn on all filters provided. IE7 RC-1 was just released and so far it really goes a long way at keeping stuff working smoothly.


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Oh, ya.. Did I say "Linux"?


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jdmeister @ Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:50 pm wrote:
Oh, ya.. Did I say "Linux"?
Maybe ya did, but I ain't gonna listen about Linux unless you can ID Linux compatable software that will support typical KJ/DJ music machine....you know, hosting. songbooks, players and such. :D


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