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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:58 am |
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From what I know about the man, that sounds like something he would have done. He was a great person.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:09 am |
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Well I've got the autograph of everybody in the Firesign Theatre comedy group and Jimmie Dale Gilmore singer/songwriter from Texas. That guy's great along with Texan's Joe Ely, Butch Hancock and Jerry Jeff Walker.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:20 am |
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I'm with YOU on this Babs.
I think it would be cool to meet certain famous people, just because I like and enjoy their talent, but I would never ooh and ahh over them like they were godly, and put them on some pedastal above myself.
Cause, you're right, they're JUST people like the rest of us.
ONE EXCEPTION: If I ever met George Jones, I'd most likely faint. Or pee my pants. Or... heck, pee my paints AFTER I fainted probably. But then when I came to my senses, I'd treat him like any other person.
I've only asked for and gotten one autograph in my life, when I met Skip Ewing face to face at the Ryman Auditorium, and only because he signed my brochure I had in my hand, it kinda commemorated the trip there, since meeting him was a part of it. I'd never lower myself to beg and plead for an autograph, or lll, yank a piece of hair out. (unless, it was Simon Cowell, and I'd do it on the pretense of being a fan, when in actuality, I'd do it just to yank his dayum hair out...) LOL
But, as Kappy said.... had I of ever gotten the chance to meet Bill Monroe, and had my mandolin on me, I for dang sure would have asked him to sign it. But only to "be cool" when playing my mandolin. :D
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:28 am |
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For years, when I worked at Pillsbury's R&D facility in downtown Minneapolis I used to take the shuttle from their headquarters location to the R&D facility a bit further down the road. Almost every morning, I road the elevator with Walter Mondale, who was then an attorney Dorsey & Whitney in the same building. Never said a word to the guy. It was weird! That time of the morning, he would have had to do something like spin his head 180 degrees to get my attention....
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:01 am |
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Babs @ Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:51 am wrote: When it comes to movie stars, famous singers and bands I've never understood going crazy over getting autographs etc....
Sure I'd love to meet and have a conversation with certain famous people because they've lived interesting lives or have knowledge I could learn from, but to want a lock of their hair, autograph, piece of clothing or swoon just to get a glimpse of them - I don't understand. They are just people. I feel like I am in the minority feeling this way. I know people who have stood in line for 4 hours just to get an autograph from a movie star. I'm not judging them - I just don't get it. I spent 20 years locked away on submarines.....I counted it as a lucky day when I would find just a single strand of my distant wife's hair embedded in some corner of my locker, or somehow still stuck to a piece of clothing I had washed a dozen times since leaving her.....But a strand of hair from some famous movie star?, what's the value in that?
Do I get star struck?....Yeah.....But only everytime I look at my wife....Sometimes I have to squint.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:10 am |
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Quote: But, as Kappy said.... had I of ever gotten the chance to meet Bill Monroe, and had my mandolin on me, I for dang sure would have asked him to sign it. But only to "be cool" when playing my mandolin.
While I could have Leslie sign another guitar at anytime, I wonder how badly Pete Townshend signed Stratocasters took a dive over the course of the past few years LMAO.. I suppose a michael jackson stuffed chimp with his signature on it, isn't worth quite as much as it would've been up until the early 1990's either !
It's AMAZING what signed cheap guitars sell for these days. Yep, regardless of how good a violin is, I'd likely not think twice about having Nigel Kennedy, or Perlman sign the thing.. It'd likely be in a discreet area of the back anyway.. Not fat magic marker on top of course ! Another problem of course might be, How can we prove the signatures are authentic ? While it appears collectors pay ALOT for these, I never did look into whether or not people need certificate of authenticities, such as signed original artwork, etc... Not sure how things end up, when you do in fact try to sell the instrument as "Official, or actual autograph".. What type of evidence you might need to provide along with the signature.. I'd image it takes more than burdon of proof that it IS NOT in fact authentic... Interesting topic.. When you think about it, WHY would people pay so much, if the seller can't provide evidence of authenticity ?
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:19 am |
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As an autograph collector (old movie stars and musicians), one should realize that often signed photographs were usually signed by the celebrity's secretarial staff or often by their wives (and sometimes husbands). Therefore, signed photos are something to be carefully scrutinized! Autographs, taken from autograph books are more than always likely to be the genuine article because the celebrity HAD to sign them in plain sight of the autograph hound. I have several one page letters written by a few famous people and these were authenticated by their recorded history starting from when they were first sold or came into the dealer's possession.
I saw some fool buy an autographed picture of John Barrymore for something like $750 on e-bay. It clearly had been inscribed with a Sharpie or magic marker--things that did not exist in Barrymore's lifetime! What a chump!
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:26 am |
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Quote: I have several one page letters written by a few famous people and these were authenticated by their recorded history starting from when they were first sold or came into the dealer's possession.
I saw some fool buy an autographed picture of John Barrymore for something like $750 on e-bay. It clearly had been inscribed with a Sharpie or magic marker--things that did not exist in Barrymore's lifetime! What a chump!
Yeah, Some of these people are really foolish.. I have a great autographed photo I bought on ebay that was signed by "Hans List" himself on my "Hungarian Rhapsodies for Dummies" series.. You should see the prestine condition of his kitchen appliances in the background, the closed-top range in his kitchen is meticulous !
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:49 am |
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Steven Kaplan @ Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:10 am wrote: Yep, regardless of how good a violin is, I'd likely not think twice about having Nigel Kennedy, or Perlman sign the thing.. It'd likely be in a discreet area of the back anyway.. Not fat magic marker on top of course !
At Weiser Idaho, 6 years ago, at the National Old Time Fiddlers contest & festival, I came face to face with Mark O'Connor, he was just milling about the camp, playing fiddle with groups of people. Not sure if you know of him, but he's very famous in my world of fiddling anyhow. (which is a world, that does not include Nigel Kennedy or Perlman, lll)
I could have had him sign my fiddle, but I didn't. I did take a pic with him, just to show my dad. And I listened to him play fiddle a while.... I just don't know if I could really have someone sign an instrument. I say I would with Bill Monroe and my mandolin, but then again Mandolin=Bill Monroe=Mandolin. He just fathered the instrument, and IMO there is no better.... I'm kinda particular about what instruments I do have. With my fiddle, I'd most likely yank it back out of his hands and say "No, don't sign it, this is MY fiddle, keep your hands off". LOL
I'd never in a million years BUY a "famously signed" instrument. Good lord, I could make a killing selling bogus autograph instruments, I'm VERY good at copying and forging signatures. I do my husbands all the time, used to do my mom's and dad's when I was in school too. But, I'd never do that. Just... knowing how easy you can be fooled, I'd never.... play the fool.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:59 am |
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Quote: I just don't know if I could really have someone sign an instrument. I say I would with Bill Monroe and my mandolin, but then again Mandolin=Bill Monroe=Mandolin. He just fathered the instrument, and IMO there is no better.... I'm kinda particular about what instruments I do have. With my fiddle, I'd most likely yank it back out of his hands and say "No, don't sign it, this is MY fiddle, keep your hands off".
Actually you have brought up an excellent point now that I think of it. The ALREADY collectible vintage guitars I wouldn't allow even a famous guitarist to sign.. These are "My babies", and they don't NEED anybody's signature.. I don't think of them in terms of resale, IN FACT, if you already have an antique desirable wooden instrument, or extremely valuable limited edition instrument DOES having it signed always increase it's value ? PROBABLY not ! Unless of course it was OWNED and played by the artist, and sold to you with a certificate of authenticity, not just "autographed"... This area of buying and selling fascinates me, but to be quite honest, I personally DO NOT want some signature on a guitar, violin, etc.. That isn't supposed to be on the original, come to think of it, I wonder if in certain respects this would make a high end instrument appear as a "Modified" instrument, lower it's value cosmetically.. I don't know, it's quite an intricate area of this market, an area I'm curious about.. My guess is as Michael brought up, people are paying money ONLY because they are confused, they might just believe that the signature actually appreciates investment value, yet does it always ? I haven't a clue !!! Perhaps an autographed photo of Les Paul, in the case with a Les Paul is worth more than Les Pauls added signature on my Les Paul....
These might be questions for the ebay community collectors bboards ???
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:06 am |
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When I was in a band I can remember signing autographs on
peoples hats, clothes, arms etc....
It was fun for me, but I always thought it was crazy. I'm nobody
special. I'm just a college kid that sings on the weekends. Nobody was ever
going to make any money from me signing my name on their arm. LMAO
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:09 am |
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I just remembered, when I was a kid I had a lead role in a play. People actually asked me for my autograph. After we apeared in the paper, I actually had people in the doctor's office asking me. I was 9 years old. That was a trip. I don't think my mom had anything to do with it but she was pretty sneaky.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:17 am |
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Even off of Ebay, I think I'd have to have a PIC of the person signing the instrument, and know dang well it was the same one.
But then again.... I don't think I'd buy it anyhow. (even if I COULD afford it) I mean, to me, a "signature" in itself would mean nothing at all. I mean, wow, something somebody scribbled in ink? No matter their fame. To me, a signature would be a "remembrance" of meeting and/or spending time with that person only. Something more along the lines of being sentimental.
But, then again (again), I'm an idiot when it comes to buying instruments. Do you recall the link I gave you a while back to a Marcus Martini blue sunburst F style mandolin? Well, I bought one. LOL I couldn't resist. I'm not a great enough player to warrant having a REALLY nice one, but I do play it alot, and I had an A style, which.... I hate. So, I bid on it and bought it. And, amazingly, it's a very nice instrument. I did check out the buyer, and he seems to sell a hell of alot of instruments there, so I figured I'd take my chance. It's nowhere near a GIBSON F5, but dream on...... I think, actually, the only downfall with buying instruments like that are that the wood is not good and seasoned like a vintage would be, and they use cheap hardware. But that one is an easy fix, I can always replace the hardware. Great thing is, it's NICE and loud, and notes very well. So I'm happy. It's along the bottom line of Mandolin's, but plays better than Johnson, Rogue, and those el-cheapo ones do. Beats the hell out of my other one. And I look MUCH cooler holding a new *blue* F style anyhow. And that's what really matters, right?
*kidding, of course*
I did recently happen to land myself with a local band, kind of as just an extra singer when they're playing gigs that want country music...... But anyhow, I went to band practice, didn't take my old beat up cheap guitar, out of embarassment (it has several cracks on the front).... So, she let me play hers. She has 3 Gibsons, 2 of which are vintage. So, I got to play a 1946 Gibson guitar. (first time for me) What a rush. To me, when I get my hands on something like that, it's almost like I'm being allowed into a sacred circle, I was almost afraid to hold it. LOL
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:24 am |
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Quote: Do you recall the link I gave you a while back to a Marcus Martini blue sunburst F style mandolin? Well, I bought one.
I don't recall the Marcus, however I do recall the company in Taiwan that had extremely attractive instruments that were selling for around $500 or-so ? I had mentioned that I was curious about this company, and likely would be reticent buying such a costly instrument from Taiwan without knowing ALOT about the actual construction, wood, and shipping process, return policy etc... "Marcus" for some reason I do not recall. I never did get around to researching the company that had the VERY attractive instruments from Taiwan however, never did a websearch on those makes... I'm going to look up Marcus now... Really all that matters, is how happy you are with your purchase, the return policy (which of course I can never actually follow thru with ) I can get attached to ANYTHING wood with strings .. I just look at them as living things, with emotions...crazy, yep ? (but this should come as little surprise).. If I felt I could return something once I bought it, I'd own ALOT more, and take certain risks... As long as a company is known, and respected for their liberal return policy, honors warantee... That's great ! Nothing wrong with making purchases assuming you'd wish to try something... I just don't have it in me to sell ANYTHING musical....sort of sick, I know... but "I'm taking it all with me" anyway.. So getting stuck with too much or too many, is an unfounded concern when all is said and done !
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:48 am |
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I'm the same way....... I still have my 3/4 size fiddles, actually, if I count them all, including the ones in need of repair, I believe I have 6. And 2 that I play (only).
My old mandolin, which is a "piece" at best.... I'll never get rid of it. I always have the attitude of "I best hang on to that, never know when I might need a spare _ _ _"..... when actuality, I HATE letting any kind of instrument leave the house. There's really no harm in having them. I want a new (older) guitar, but I'll never get rid of the clunker I have now. It's an old applause, accoustic/electric.... and to be fair, it does have a good sound- and a small neck which suits my hands well- but, the blue top has some major cracks. (in the finish only, not the wood) and the pickup needs replaced.... But it's a cheapo guitar. I just love it. But because of the condition, I hate to play it out. And it's not worth the value of the guitar to pay someone to refinish it. So it will stay like it is. (except.. I'll replace the pickup) And someday (adding to the someday list again) I'll get one that will rock my world, and I'll quit biotching that I want a new guitar.
I'm NOT a great player, on any instrument that I have, I've never proclaimed to be. But, there's not an instrument in my house that sits idle even a full 2 days. (okay, maybe I've slacked on the fiddle lately... but that's the exception) My guitar is always played, on a daily basis. So, even though I'm not a pro player, why shouldn't I want a really good one? (see... I keep telling Lonnie that... but he just wont give, haha) No, serisouly, he bought me this one- about 8 years ago I think. I guess he'd get me a better one if he could, but it's not like I'm asking anyhow. (I'm begging...) No, kidding again. It's my personal goal to get MYSELF one. He doesn't even know my plans. I mean, he knows I want one, he just doens't know I'm saving up, and drooling over pics online, and pouring through a gazillion web pages of vintage guitars.
Cause I gotta tread lightly here.... someday, he'll see me playing a new one, and he'll say "Where did you get another guitar?".... and I'll say "Oh, from this dealer"..... and he'll say "Really, what did you have to pay for that one?"...... and as I run out the door and jump in my truck I'll yell back "Oh, only $3000". :D
Oy, I need some coffee. Trying to quit it (again), and it's not working. It's just making me tired AND goofie AND giving me a major headache.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:50 am |
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Like I said, I'm not too familiar with bluegrass, and traditional Western music, but I suppose for certain styles. These instruments suit a purpose...
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catal ... e=DDI+Link
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:55 am |
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LOL LMAO LOL
I was thinking "What? Neiman Marcus sells BLUEGRASS instruments... no way!!"
Though, hey, that looks handy too. :whistle:
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:04 am |
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Here's the one I bought:
Mandolin
But, no, that's not what I paid for mine. I waited on one to be open for bidding with no reserve and jumped on THAT one, hahaha.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:17 am |
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Are you KIDDIN' me? If I ever did meet someone famous...which I haven't really except for some jazz musicians like Ernie Watts, Ed Shaughnessy, Maynard Ferguson, Slide Hampton, and James Moody because I played with them with my jazz band, but even then was too shy to even say hello to most of them ...
but anyway if I did meet anyone famous, I'd probably become a jibbering idiot... look it's happening right now just reading about your experiences and thinking about it hehe. The closest I've come is when I met some vocal jazz idols of mine (The New York Voices) at a clinic. Darmon Meader who is a vocal jazz GOD to me, was standing at the door and I TRIED to say hello and ended up blubbering about something like how I was thier biggest fan and blah blah blah.. I could see myself from inside making a fool of myself, but still was powerless to stop . I did have a good time though and they were very kind!
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:25 am |
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@ Elisha.
Thing is, I'm a babbling idiot 99.9% of the time anyhow. So it would make no difference in my speach pattern to meet someone famous. To be knocked "speachless".... now, THAT would take some doing. LOL
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