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Don, I think it is possible to do but also VERY difficult...and I know for a fact I will probably never be able to achieve it.  I just don't have the talent or skill required for most songs.  But...I don't worry about it.  For me singing is about having fun...expressing myself...and trying to do it in a way that won't damage too many eardrums.    There are songs I love that I can't sing worth a darn...doesn't mean I won't still sing 'em...just means no one will ever hear it but me.  

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Tammy, you seem to have a realistic attitude towards singing that works for you.  For you it's about haing fun and expressing yourself first.  I sure can't argue with that approach!!  :)

I also want to add that I have indeed heard songs on SS that I liked better than the original.  I do consider this a matter of personal preference though.  Everyone has different tastes...which I think is one of the most wonderful things about music.  There are so many genres...so many styles...so many talented voices...so many things you can DO with it...everyone is sure to find something they love.  :D

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I could post a perfect song, but then again I wouldn't want everyone else to quit.

Very well put Tammy. I did my serious thing and walked away from it. Now I just love to sing, even though I'm only so so - and with the music I sing, I'm sure I've damaged a few eardrums or at least made a few wince . But I know I can carry a decent tune and I have a blast doing what I do. That counts for something anyway. I know realistically, that with my voice I have many limitations and its kind of late in life to pick up where I left off with the sax....but hey - I just bought a new tenor not too long ago, so I'll have fun with it too.

Well I'm about to pour my first shot of tequila as my party will be starting soon....Cheers!!

Yep, well put Tammy!

Drea the older I get the more I have come to realize that if you aren't happy and and enjoying life, then it just ain't worth it...so it's best to do what you love, and not be afraid to take a chance if you think it'll make you happy!  I know I love your tunes...so keep singin'!!!  :D

Hey have fun tonight...and hide the paintball guns!!  

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Yeah this whole perfect song concept seems a bit complicated. I was thinking about it the other day, but Steven Kaplans refusal to post because his songs aren't "perfect" is what reminded me of it. See: http://www.karaoke-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7567. Guess I was wondering out loud 'what good is it if you don't sound as good as the original artist'?  For me, I know the answer. I sing because I like songs, singing, and relate to certain songs on content, style, and perhaps memories. Before I ever sang karaoke, I just sang around the house, and in the shower ~ like probably most of you.  Usually it is hard to beat the original artist, as obviously they are the ones that made the song popular, and everybody often hears them in their head as someone else sings the song for comparison. But every once in a while I do hear a singer at karaoke that really impresses me. Perhaps my memory isn't that good but often the live, emotional performance - some alignment of the planets seems they do sometimes sound better than the original or at least almost as good. For instance, happened the other day when a girl sang an Evanescence song - "Bring Me To Life". Beautiful, powerful song when you can get someone that can hit the highs with the sobering male duo lows. Another way I see is a remix of a song. As I recall that happened during the last idol competition when one of the male singers (I forget his name) did well at what was apparently "his interpretation" of the musical score. Everyone was really impressed, but they later learned he had taken the version from someone else.

Anyway I guess I was just wondering if many of you ponder this. As I mentioned in the Kaplan post I think perfection is a great thing to shoot for in singing or life, even if you never attain it. Perhaps the journey is greater than the destination. Hmmm...perhaps the journey is the destination. Ok, I'm getting a bit spooky - so I'll stop.

Out've due deference to that "Kaplan creep", I still think we should quote that blathering fool correctly.  This is what he originally stated.  It was how he was brought up. It's what our culture teaches many in the schools, "Strive for the A", turn in your BEST work. Some are trained to be "professional".  Other's have the option to view things quite differently.

I believe this is what Kaplan stated, but I should let him speak for himself rather than speak 3rd person




Whether somebody is an 8 or 10 is usually subjective.  Some covers IMO are better than the original artist, however some still love Dylan despite his unconventional singing style. It's just THAT subjective. Many singers are just an acquired taste, first time we heard Jagger, Havens, C-ocker, many of us thought they stunk, we got used to them, and acquired a taste, even learned to consider it a :Standard:, or these people become in retrospect "Innovators"..  If you want to hear my idea of a "10" listen to Jeanne's rendition of "Heaven", assuming she still has the original version I thought was a "10", redoing a song likely will NOT be a "10"..  Such is life..  But this is MY opinion only..  THAT is the calibre of performance *I* don't forgot for "positive" reasons.  You material I hear DOES impact me if it's very good, or very bad... HOWEVER, for YOU,  you should always do as you please.  It's YOUR experience... DIfferent perspectives..  Yes, I'm a perfectionist, but EVEN if *I* was only a true 7 in this case, I might qualify my submission saying "OK, you asked for it, this is ME... I suck, laugh all you want, but you asked for it, and here it comes"... Sure I might submit, you don't have to be great at all to enjoy it... But I certainly would make some excuse for my subpar performance if I felt people are judging me as a musician, which some do... Others don't care...

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Right. "Perfect" was just a generalization. Anyway, I'm just saying it reminded me of the topic. A good topic - me thinks.

Incidently I had to hyphenate Joe C-ocker.... It's the site's censor software, otherwise this is how it would've appeared

Joe Cocker  (Whoa... It didn't say winkyer) this time  :shock:

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Yeah Planet_Bill,  I feel there are certainly exceptions, but I do believe many do judge and mock as well.  That people in an audience ARE in fact often harsh... If THAT doesn't matter to a person, by all means, they should submit to the world..I put more emphasis on being a "polished Musician", than I expect many others to do.. During touch football games, I stunk, and I was OK with it !  The QB of a football team would not be.. DIfferent strokes.


I find it sad however, that there exist some that DO believe their material in the Showcase is a 9 or 10, and it's often because those they trusted garnished them with flowers... EVEN though they asked for "C".. This is a problem *I* have. It's better to be honest even if a person is relatively insecure and needs a confidence push, assuming the :White lie: is setting them up to fail in competition down the road, and setting them up for a big fall... Some DO take what they are told they can do well seriously, and go into competitions...however some ARE in fact laughing behind their backs, while making them believe they are FABULOUS singers, it sickens me...Should it ?  Maybe not.  I prefer honesty rather than pushing a person that's not good to "Simon".. If I am a "2", and I admit I'm a 2, why fill my Rank and Critique page with perfect scores and gleaning commentary ? IS THAT FAIR ?... Why can't at least SOMEBODY say,  "Kappy,  this is what might help you improve, you are average I suppose" that would still be a :White lie: assuming I am a "2", (also assuming I ask for help or Critique)  

I do believe in general audiences can be harsh and many even in the Showcase ARE dishonest, it's up to the artist to know their limitations. I don't like to see people that are good people, made to look like fools, or see their friends encourage this...

JMO

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Kappy, I think you're full of #2.  You could improve by using a laxative though. I'm glad I could be so honest with you. I feel better now. Now we can be friends  :hug:

Isn't karaoke scene fun?   -okay..sorry (Kappy, yer not full of #2) -at least not completely, totally full...maybe sort of full of it though, you know...  :no:  :hi5:

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No No.... I'm a #2 for sure... In fact, I'm so full of it


C'MERE. I can use you for something    LMAO

<hey,  this way we both feel better>  LOL

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Well I wouldn't say that exactly.  :need hug:

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Sorry Bill,  back to your subject matter..

I think as long as a person is aware of what's real, and makes a determination based upon that alone... and their own feelings.. Essentially that's what matters.. To me being excellent when I perform is VERY important, I can have fun otherwise without making it a public performance.

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Welcome aboard the thread Jeffieoke! See what madness you got me started in?  Been here much of the day in search of my avatar. Trying to save it, post for it, BUY IT! Yeah I finally figured it out. Meeting quite a few people along the way though.

Hope the day is treating you well.

You have some decent points and I can really see it both ways. This kind of goes along with my topic on ratings though. So I may post more thoughts there on that subject.

Bill.....

Bill......

Use The Force, Bill    

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You are correct Bill, problem is because of rankings, and what's become a SS tradition, Rank and comment both create a cyclical pattern...

"9"

What a pleasure, you really do this song justice.  This is how it was meant to be sung, Keep up the great work.. I LOVE the way you sang this.


In reality...

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