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karyoker
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:27 pm |
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Thats alright Matt I started this thread for sevral reasons First I felt some questions in this area and in regard to bar operation or should I say sucessful bar methods...My first mistake was calling it handling drunks I should hav called it public relations or something. But anybody that works in bar or depends on the totals on the z tape for a livlihood or for whatever reason needs to understand bar operations. There are 2 things I wouldnt a bar or a dairy herd. Managing or tending a bar or lounge now with the laws we have is not easy. Here in co any disturbance requires calling the cops right now I dont know if its a state law but in lar county if somebody gets hurt or requires first aid emt's have to be notified in 3 minutes. If anybody gets a dui out of that bar then it is watched more and more busts means trouble. Anything to with hustling rolling or drug dealing is a major shutdown.
What does this have to do with us? All the above can cause a temporary shutdown and even a few days is over the weekend. No gig no money... Also when a bar is at this point customers are in an exodus to a more stable bar. It takes a team effort...
Just as it takes special people to do certain jobs it takes special people to make a bar tick. It is an atmoshere that requires special public relations knowing when to be stern knowing when to go with the flow. Everybody there has to be aware of whats going on with the other employees and knowing if they are having problems. This is in addition to being aware whats going on with the crowd. Sometimes hosting karaoke can be funnest night ever but there are times when the sound or rotation and all others things are immaterial. There are other things more pressing that have more of an effect on your success. And it usually involves a problem thats requires quick wits and knowing how to deal with everybody from cops to inebriated assholes..
These thoughts are borne out not an abundance of knowledge but many years of experience. Also yesterday Ihad the need to tell a couple of sea stories and they wernt exaterated one bit. But if anybody gleaned at least one idea out of this thread then it was worth it
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Chuck2
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:48 pm |
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knightshow @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:24 pm wrote: your post about TYPES of alcohol and how the various types affect people was WELL founded. Thanks Matt, it seemed to support the topic. I still like your post about the handles and am studying it. karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:27 pm wrote: :) Also yesterday Ihad the need to tell a couple of sea stories and they wernt exaterated one bit. But if anybody gleaned at least one idea out of this thread then it was worth it I did,the stories in this thread were very interesting.
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a10cgirl
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:20 pm |
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xxKevinxx @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:14 pm wrote: Ya'll got me in a drinkin' mood now....
I'll have a shot of tequila! LMAO
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karyoker
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:24 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:43 pm Posts: 6784 Location: Fort Collins Colorado USA Been Liked: 5 times
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Quote: Post Re: Handling Drunks Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:20 pm xxKevinxx @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:14 pm wrote: Ya'll got me in a drinkin' mood now.... I'll have a shot of tequila! LMAO
See!! We are attracting customers already... LMAO
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a10cgirl
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:26 pm |
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karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:24 pm wrote: Quote: Post Re: Handling Drunks Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:20 pm xxKevinxx @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:14 pm wrote: Ya'll got me in a drinkin' mood now.... I'll have a shot of tequila! LMAO See!! We are attracting customers already... LMAO
I didn't see any female drunks in here....Ya'll know how we can spoil (or liven up) a party....
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fiery
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:46 pm |
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Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:08 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Kitchener Ontario Been Liked: 0 time
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a10cgirl @ August 8th 2006, 19:26 wrote: karyoker @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:24 pm wrote: Quote: Post Re: Handling Drunks Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:20 pm xxKevinxx @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:14 pm wrote: Ya'll got me in a drinkin' mood now.... I'll have a shot of tequila! LMAO See!! We are attracting customers already... LMAO I didn't see any female drunks in here....Ya'll know how we can spoil (or liven up) a party....
Hi Rita! Uhmm I'll have a fireball
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Guest
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:41 pm |
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Few years back I was in this bar, when the owner(a big dude) threw this little drunk out the door saying "if you come back in here again, I'll beat your little a$$"....about 5 minutes later, here comes this drunk through the back door, owner throws him out the back door, warning him, that if he comes back again tonight, he is really gonna beat the heck out of him, and he's not kidding........10 minutes later, here comes this little sum bi$&ch back through the front door again.....he freezes in horror as the owner stands in his way and starts rolling up his sleaves stating " I warned you, now I'm gonna beat the living crap out of your drunken a$$"....the little drunk stammers to the owner.." now wait just a minute buddy................... how many bars do you own on this block?"..........
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a10cgirl
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:45 pm |
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Johnny Echo @ Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:41 pm wrote: Few years back I was in this bar, when the owner(a big dude) threw this little drunk out the door saying "if you come back in here again, I'll beat your little a$$"....about 5 minutes later, here comes this drunk through the back door, owner throws him out the back door, warning him, that if he comes back again tonight, he is really gonna beat the heck out of him, and he's not kidding........10 minutes later, here comes this little sum bi$&ch back through the front door again.....he freezes in horror as the owner stands in his way and starts rolling up his sleaves stating " I warned you, now I'm gonna beat the living crap out of your drunken a$$"....the little drunk stammers to the owner.." now wait just a minute buddy................... how many bars do you own on this block?"..........
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a10cgirl
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:47 pm |
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HEY LISA!!!!! One fireball coming up!!!!!!
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Guest
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:26 pm |
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Very troublesome, but most are drunk and drugged. Even worse.
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Guest
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:18 pm |
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Bigdog @ Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:26 pm wrote: Very troublesome, but most are drunk and drugged. Even worse.
Yes, and being just a Little Dog, I always party at a place called "The Big Rock Candy Mountain"........us little dogs always seem to have such a good time there, but for some reason, unbeknownst to me, big dogs don't seem to enjoy the place...........could be the buzzing of the bees, or maybe the blueberry trees....
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Babs
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:16 pm |
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The worst drunk to deal with at karaoke is the in between drunk. Not
bad enough to kick out, but annoying enough to make your night miserable.
The night the AC went out in the bar I had a bad woman drunk. It was rotten
hot to begin with, then I had to deal with her. She stands in front of the stage heckling every singer. She throws her purse on the slip and pencil table knocking
things over, puts her drink on othe books, and yells at the top of her lungs at the singers. At one point she yells "you can't sing that song" and comes on stage pulling the mic out of the singers hand. I went and got some help because I was ready to come unglued at this gal. I already forcably escorted her off stage twice. Her response " what did I do?"
I told the bouncer she was not aloud to sing and I would not respond to her if she spoke to me. She is now your problem not mine until you kick her out. She never did get kicked out. The bouncer basically babysat until she left.
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Guest
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:11 pm |
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Stupid on the part of the owner and the bouncer. She could have chased out many good paying customers. Why did they feel the need to let her stay? Makes absoultely no sense to me. Lose good money for bad. :shock: :O
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Chuck2
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:13 pm |
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Bigdog @ Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:11 am wrote: Stupid on the part of the owner and the bouncer. She could have chased out many good paying customers. Why did they feel the need to let her stay? Makes absoultely no sense to me. Lose good money for bad. :shock: :O ...and with the fklag of Scotland, thismakes sense. cousin
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:02 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:48 pm Posts: 13645 Been Liked: 11 times
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He's in Rayshavikczhqtxsda (SP) now
(you know, the Capital of Iceland)
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Chuck2
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:12 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:35 am Posts: 4179 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Been Liked: 3 times
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Good point, because of the Nordic influence on the British Isles, he's still a cousin.
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:44 am |
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Oh
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