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Thank you jazzy.  It's been at least 35 years since I studied any of this, and come to think of it,  I might NEVER have learned or questioned the actual derivation of the Perfect 4th and 5th.  Although I do recall why they are the Sub Dominant, Dominant, etc.. It would make ALOT of sense to me if Pythagorus and Aristotle had ALOT of bearing on classical styles... Because even in the older days, Music being an "Aesthetic" area, European, or ancient Greek belief still was prevalent during the Baroque period (at least I think it was) and you DID in fact hear the goal was often to compose the "Perfect style" of music... The philosophy of Aesthetic areas..

Here, let me enter a quote from an excerpt that discussed "styles" of music during the older period..  It just makes alot of sense to me that THAT would've been the actual reason for the terms Perfect 4th and 5th.. Thanks Jazzy..

Here's the quote:

"It was the aim of Classical composers to achieve "perfect" music. That is, music that was completely perfect from a technical standpoint. This restriction led to very conservative music, strong but not really emotional. This is how most of Classical style music went and how the composers composed it (with the notable exception of Beethoven). Don’t get the wrong idea about this; the music Mozart gave us is beautiful and moving, and he was a born and bred Classical composer. Conservative does not mean boring. There are many notable examples of the Classical style, including the musical stereotype that is Beethoven’s 5th symphony."

One other question.  Is the 7 tone scale also referred to as the "Diatonic scale" which is also Greek ?  Another thing I forgot. I've so often heard kids on the piano being told  "Diatonic" or just the white keys...Which I think technically is quite inaccurate... I assumed the Diatonic scale to be the term for the 7 tone scale..

Chuck,  That's undeniably true.  One problem I have with that line of thought, is that similarly when Money and business is what rules the path an Aesthetic area takes.. It's at the expense (IMHO) of the quality of the art-form... You compromise the art to "get rich", and personally I feel this is horrible.  However this is just my opinion... I separate the two areas... If I don't enjoy I type of music... MONEY will not get me to perform it... Honestly... Business is a whole different area however... and the dollar is powerful  

on the flipside of my train of thought however, there IS a positive aspect to this.. The music world now acknowledges a form of music *I* liked... So in reality this becomes SO totally subjective... All we know is that change, and evolution is inevitable... and much of what we do like is based upon our conditioning, and that which we become used to !

If you think about trying to sing a straight tone, your chords are a little more tightly adducted (held closed).  This is not to say that you put undue stress or "squeeze" the chords, but liken it to  holding a cup firmly (not tightly) in your grasp.

I had a math teacher that made life even more difficult when he told me that how could somebody that played Bach so well be so pathetic in math....real inspiration that bozo.

Mozart was known for eating while performing--in fact, it was a "selling" point with him.

Karaoke Kelley started a thread "warm up songs" over in the Discussion Forum. I figured I'd steal it, and bring it over here, because quite honestly, I think it's an excellent thread that's important to consider.  How many do "warmup songs" or warmup exercises before singing ?  What is the importance of warming up first ?  and most importantly HOW should/does a vocalist "warm up" ?

What does a warmup routine consist of ?   How long should a person "warmup" ?

How does a new singer, with no prior formal training, establish his/her proper singing range ?  How could I know what my correct vocal register is ?  There often is a tendency for those of us that like the rock genre, to hear our actual voice lower than it actually sounds, You may have noticed that many inexperienced male rock vocalists have a tendency to try to push their singing range up into a tenor range. That's not always natural for a person that might be a baritone, or bass.