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I wonder if the Mt. St Helen activity has anything to do with triggering activity in Mt Hood. If nearby activity trigger's other activity within a certain proximity... Perhaps the seismic activity changes Caldera formation, and now there's a massive Caldera under the Cascades ???  Dunno. Not sure how large a Caldera there is under the Cascades.  The Volcanology folks should know about that stuff

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our neighbour used to do that when he got drunk... I don't think I have ever heard of anyone else doing it  



"Real men" don't need alcohol to be masculine like that !


LOL real men huh? I dunno about real men....dogs have better control!


Our neighbor used to do WHAT when he got drunk?  I think I'm missing the point here.  Can somebody elaborate?  LOL


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Go back a few posts Don.   I was quoting her response to this sequence of posts.

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sometimes when i have to go to the potty, sharon will open the back door to our house so i can go on a tree!!

life is great!!


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This is one of the nicest things about being a batchelor,  no woman around to  at me when I spray furniture marking my territory with urine.... It's a guy thing...

Lisa:
our neighbour used to do that when he got drunk... I don't think I have ever heard of anyone else doing it .



(this is what led up to my "real men" post)

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Just another typical erudite KS discussion

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AtM @ Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:33 pm wrote:
Sometimes when the dog comes to the door that cat will sound the "Angel Alarm". That is when pepper the cat, sits at the door and meows. He is trying to get me to come let Angel in. I stil let him open it at times just to see if he'll do it. When Angel comes in she steps right over Pepper.

Pepper really used to try to emulate a dog when he was a kitten because he was being raised by an Aussie, Angel.

It's fun to have smart pets. Sometimes I wonder if they're smarter than me, other times I know they are.


Yeah, but can they wear a thong?  LOL

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Jeffieoke @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:16 am wrote:
AtM @ Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:33 pm wrote:
Sometimes when the dog comes to the door that cat will sound the "Angel Alarm". That is when pepper the cat, sits at the door and meows. He is trying to get me to come let Angel in. I stil let him open it at times just to see if he'll do it. When Angel comes in she steps right over Pepper.

Pepper really used to try to emulate a dog when he was a kitten because he was being raised by an Aussie, Angel.

It's fun to have smart pets. Sometimes I wonder if they're smarter than me, other times I know they are.


Yeah, but can they wear a thong?  LOL
Well, yes they are allowed to but niether has made any attempt to drive to the store and pick out a single article of clothing.


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Steven Kaplan @ Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:09 pm wrote:
I wonder if the Mt. St Helen activity has anything to do with triggering activity in Mt Hood. If nearby activity trigger's other activity within a certain proximity... Perhaps the seismic activity changes Caldera formation, and now there's a massive Caldera under the Cascades ???  Dunno. Not sure how large a Caldera there is under the Cascades.  The Volcanology folks should know about that stuff


Duh, everyone knows that all of this activity, as well as all of your tornados can be explained by one thing: EL NINO!!!!

One day we'll have to catch that wrestling bastard and beat the ever living crap out of him.

On a side note, the furthest I've ever dived into water was about 30 feet. Used to do alot of bridge jumping when I was in college. My motto was always "don't go first."

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TopherM @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:44 am wrote:
Steven Kaplan @ Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:09 pm wrote:
I wonder if the Mt. St Helen activity has anything to do with triggering activity in Mt Hood. If nearby activity trigger's other activity within a certain proximity... Perhaps the seismic activity changes Caldera formation, and now there's a massive Caldera under the Cascades ???  Dunno. Not sure how large a Caldera there is under the Cascades.  The Volcanology folks should know about that stuff


Duh, everyone knows that all of this activity, as well as all of your tornados can be explained by one thing: EL NINO!!!!

One day we'll have to catch that wrestling bastard and beat the ever living crap out of him.

On a side note, the furthest I've ever dived into water was about 30 feet. Used to do alot of bridge jumping when I was in college. My motto was always "don't go first."


I used to play basketball with a bunch of high school kids when I lived in Lockhart Texas. In the summer (I was about 20-21) they would try to get me to take them to San Marcos (where I live now) so we could all go swimming in the river or to Martindale where there was a small pond/lake.  One day we all decided to jump off the railroad tressel on the river that had about a (not good at judging distance) 70 foot drop to the water.  The first two went in with a cannon ball and then the next with a dive. Being the super cool guy that I am ("this means ...stupid") I could not do less than that so I put my swim team skills to work and did a pretty decent dive into the water. At least i think it was water, because I almost broke my friggin' neck when my head hit it. I came up with a screaming headache that did not go away for the entire day. I could have knocked myself out and then I wouldn't be here writing this without divine intervention.

I have an almost identical story to this one where the same group went to the little falls on the river in San Marcos and I got up on top of the metal fence and dove in. You see, they put that fence there to keep idiots from diving in because the water was not deep enough. So naturally I climbed on top of it to dive in and promptly hit my head on the bottom, almost breaking my neck. I remember everything going white for an instant and then I came up but dam if I wasn't a stupe when I was a kid, a teenager, a young adult and now ? Good thing I learned my lesson by almost dying about 100 times. It doesn't take me long to learn a lesson. (or not)  -duh :drool:

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AtM @ Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:59 pm wrote:
Texas Gigi @ Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:29 am wrote:
Chuck's truck blew up a couple of years ago. I will let him tell that story. The truly weird thing about it, to me, was when I saw the inferno in the driveway, I went in to wake him up and said, "Chuck, your truck's on fire" like I was saying good morning or something.
Yah, it caught fire in the driveway about 9 hours after I parked it.

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The story is here, http://www.sapphiremoon.us/burnt_truck/

Anyone is welcome to read it.


Could this be a biproduct of your winning that karaoke contest? Maybe there were some unhappy runners up?

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Odie @ July 16th 2006, 17:13 wrote:
fierynette @ Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:02 pm wrote:
Steven Kaplan @ July 16th 2006, 13:28 wrote:
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our neighbour used to do that when he got drunk... I don't think I have ever heard of anyone else doing it  



"Real men" don't need alcohol to be masculine like that !


LOL real men huh? I dunno about real men....dogs have better control!


Our neighbor used to do WHAT when he got drunk?  I think I'm missing the point here.  Can somebody elaborate?  LOL


LMAO uhm.... he would get drunk...then he would pee all over the place...what were YOU thinking????  LMAO

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Steven Kaplan @ July 16th 2006, 17:27 wrote:
I see,  Fiery has a new avatar

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I downloaded so many I will be constantly changing them :P (just to confuse people when someone makes a post like that one ;) )

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fierynette @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:55 am wrote:
Odie @ July 16th 2006, 17:13 wrote:
fierynette @ Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:02 pm wrote:
Steven Kaplan @ July 16th 2006, 13:28 wrote:
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our neighbour used to do that when he got drunk... I don't think I have ever heard of anyone else doing it  



"Real men" don't need alcohol to be masculine like that !


LOL real men huh? I dunno about real men....dogs have better control!


Our neighbor used to do WHAT when he got drunk?  I think I'm missing the point here.  Can somebody elaborate?  LOL


LMAO uhm.... he would get drunk...then he would pee all over the place...what were YOU thinking????  LMAO


Well the problem was, I didn't know what i was supposed to think.  But thanks Lisa for the detailed and vivid explanation!   LOL


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Odie @ July 17th 2006, 13:04 wrote:
fierynette @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:55 am wrote:
Odie @ July 16th 2006, 17:13 wrote:
fierynette @ Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:02 pm wrote:
Steven Kaplan @ July 16th 2006, 13:28 wrote:
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our neighbour used to do that when he got drunk... I don't think I have ever heard of anyone else doing it  



"Real men" don't need alcohol to be masculine like that !


LOL real men huh? I dunno about real men....dogs have better control!


Our neighbor used to do WHAT when he got drunk?  I think I'm missing the point here.  Can somebody elaborate?  LOL


LMAO uhm.... he would get drunk...then he would pee all over the place...what were YOU thinking????  LMAO


Well the problem was, I didn't know what i was supposed to think.  But thanks Lisa for the detailed and vivid explanation!   LOL


Hey what was I supposed to say? lol Anything except detailed might have been taken the wrong way ;)

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Steven Kaplan @ Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:00 pm wrote:
It's weird Chuck.  But it's still an area that's considered #3 in the states regarding such activity...  Central area's pretty bad, the Gulf area follows; However, in Southern New England, the Canadian and Atlantic air,  set up turbulent activity in a valley between the Adirondacks, and water (Atlantic)...  Here in Ct.  Twisters (although nowhere near as common perhaps as activity in your areas, or north of you in the central states) happen about once every year... PA, and Jersey too get twisters,  but one of the worst twisters hit Worcester mass.  I guess England, and Australia get Tornadic activity as well.. It's scary,  VERY few living in these area's ever have visibility to see these things, like some do in the flat plain states... We are due to get an ominous earthquake anytime... Ct river valley is a fault line.. At least a 7


Stephen nailed this right on.  Here are some amazing stats.  The state with the most Tornado deaths per 10,000 square miles?  Massachusetts!  States with the highest percentage of killer tornadoes compared to all tornadoes?  New York state and Massachusetts both make the top ten!

http://www.tornadoproject.com/toptens/topten1.htm

Here is a map based on weather service data if you scroll down this page on where tornadoes frequently happen - and as you can see all of southern New England and parts of New York state have a higher than average chance.  Amazingly, when you look at another chart for risk of storm intensity, the area of southern New York north of NYC and into western Massachusetts and to Connecticut about to Hartford has a risk that is as high as the Midwestern United States!

http://www.cdli.ca/CITE/tornadoes_alley.htm

As Stephen noted, the frequent collision of Canadian air with Gulf Air creates this phenomenon.  The tornadic season in the northeast is shorter - from about late May to mid-September, and those in the New England states know that violent thunderstorms are common around these times, as a signal of the beginning, and the end of the summer season respectively.  There is some speculation specifically to Massachusetts that the construction of the Quabbin Reservoir has further altered weather patterns specifically to central and eastern Massachusetts.

The Great Worcester Tornado of 1953 was an F4 that killed almost 100 people and is considered one of the worst tornados in US history.  As someone who grew up in Worcester I can't think of any one meterological event, not even the Hurricane of 1938 that sparks emotion like the tornado of '53 does.  A bit of worthless trivia to add to all the other worthless trivia.  In the 1996 movie Twiester toward the end, when Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt's characters go to hide in a barn to find it full of farm equipment, decide not to and then run for their lives as the barn explodes behind them?  Impossible right?  That's what I thought too.  Turns out that the scene is inspired by a real-life survivor story of someone who was caught in the Worcester Tornado, sought shelter in a barn to find it full of dangerous equipment, decided heck no and as they ran through the front door of the barn the rear wall blew out as they ran for their lives across the field.  The eye-witness account even mentions that the farm house near by was basically untouched, and that the horses somehow survived - as shown in Twister.  The part that is just pure fantasy was them strapping themselves down and surivivng the tornado passing directly over.  Only a handful of people have survived this, almost all of them were below ground level at the time, and most were seriously injured.  The debris field of an F-5 would have pulverized them, and you would not be able to breathe when exposed to wind of that speed.

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Jeffieoke @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:58 am wrote:
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On a side note, the furthest I've ever dived into water was about 30 feet. Used to do alot of bridge jumping when I was in college. My motto was always "don't go first]."
At the Lake of the Ozarks there was a cave in a cove near my dad's house that a group of us would take the boats to, we would climb to the land above the cave and dive or jump..  Me, I just jumped; it was quite a distance up and water would go up my nose so I would hold my nose as I was jumping... One fateful day my arm was jarred when it hit the water and my fingernail cut into the area between my nostrils.. Ouch and... stupid!

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I have an almost identical story to this one where the same group went to the little falls on the river in San Marcos and I got up on top of the metal fence and dove in. You see, they put that fence there to keep idiots from diving in because the water was not deep enough. So naturally I climbed on top of it to dive in and promptly hit my head on the bottom, almost breaking my neck. I remember everything going white for an instant and then I came up but dam if I wasn't a stupe when I was a kid, a teenager, a young adult and now ? Good thing I learned my lesson by almost dying about 100 times. It doesn't take me long to learn a lesson. (or not)  -duh :drool:
I have a similar story, I went back to visit my dad (in the Lake of the Ozarks) when I turned 18 and went to one of the swimming areas.  I went out to the sun dock, not even the diving dock, and dove off.  I hit my head on the bottom of the Lake and scraped off a section of hair, I thought I was going to pass out and kind of drug myself onto shore.  Not only was I swimming alone but I dove without knowing the depth of the water!

As a side note, we had two swimming areas and the reason I chose this one is because during the short time I lived with this dad at the lake a neighbor, with whom we were friends, suffered an epileptic seizure and drowned.  I wasn't at the swim area when it happened but those that were formed a chain and walked through the water until they came upon his body... I never swam at that area again.

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Outdoorplaces.  You folks had a strange phenom up north in terms of winds in the early 1960's.  I don't think technically a pacific storm can be considered a Hurricane,  (cyclone, monsoon perhaps??) but you had a VERY fierce storm with winds that were extremely high... I think it was Columbus day..... Oregon had alot of devastation.  A VERY rare phenom especially for the US Pacific NW coast.

Aren't Pacific storms "Cyclones" ? While Hurricane is Atlantic Ocean in origin ?

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Steven Kaplan @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:01 pm wrote:
Outdoorplaces.  You folks had a strange phenom up north in terms of winds in the early 1960's.  I don't think technically a pacific storm can be considered a Hurricane,  (cyclone, monsoon perhaps??) but you had a VERY fierce storm with winds that were extremely high... I think it was Columbus day..... Oregon had alot of devastation.  A VERY rare phenom especially for the US Pacific NW coast.

Aren't Pacific storms "Cyclones" ? While Hurricane is Atlantic Ocean in origin ?


Yes, if it comes from the Pacific and hits the West coast, it's called a cyclone.  The Columbus Day storm happened in 1962. It was really very unexpected.  It just kind of crept up on us.  They gave us maybe a 4 to 6 hour warning.  The southern Oregon coast hit gusts of between 145mph all the way up to a brief hit of 180.  On the other side of the Oregon coast mountain range in Portland we hit gusts of 120.
This cyclone would have been comparable to a hurricane in the category 3 to 4 range.   Ha, ha I had just received my first bicycle and I had it outside under a tree.  Needless to say, I moved it in a hurry!


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