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Ah, don't listen to what KURT said about me, hahaha. He just can't get the "Pocahontas mini skirt" out of his mind.  LMAO

But you know what? I had alot of fun at his venue that Halloween night. (from,er, what I recall anyhow)

Maybe... someday... when you're back visiting, we can hook up with you and your wife and go out. Maybe Kurt's venue again? Or maybe Tig will have one?

You'll just have to keep me posted when you're out here. (maybe someday also.... my situation will be different?) Who knows.

Anyhow, TY... And I hope you're liking it out there. It's good that you're back with your family, as you should be. That's what keeps me here. I have a bunch of cousins around St Louis too though, maybe they'll come into your shows when you get going.... haha. One of them, my cousin Connie, is almost my virtual twin. (except she's blonde... ) And she likes to sing.  So, if I get down there to visit them, I'll look YOU up. And who knows, I may just be headed south here soon....... Ya never know.  :wave:

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Strange that no one has mention the karaoke internet radio show that has a link on this web site.  They are very informative AND one episode has a person from Sound Choice on there and another episode has someone from Priddis.  What is really interesting is they are very different in their opinion on the legality issues.

Kelly

Hey, I listen to that show. I even got to be on it once.  :whistle:  (now.... aren't I the famous one?) hahaha....

They need to do a new one, it's been FOREVER.

What # show ya talking about Kelly? I've heard a few of them... the new ones since I joined the site. (which is not many) But I don't recall if I heard that particular one, seems like maybe I did.

(Do I sound confused? Yeah, I am)  :D  :wave:

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Kelly,

we talked about it back then when those programs were "aired"...

SC's position lately is that from their understanding of the legality of copying or "format shifting"... is that they can't give permission, because they don't own the real copyright. They only have a one-time license, and that covers the song in the format it's produced in and for that disc. If the song is released on three different discs, that's three licensing fees that they've paid the owner of the copyrighted material.

They are putting out a computerized format, but it's their own proprietary thing. And there's no understanding at this time if they're going to release their entire library this way!

And DUH once again.  It is not OPINION, it is fact.  What you are doing is illegal, and it makes you a criminal.

Call me all sorts of names, it dosen't hurt me, becasue that is not what I am, it only shows how weak your argument is.  If you can't win a argument on fact and debate, smaller people always turn to name calling.  You are the one that is a CRIMINAL (by your own admission).

You think you aren't hurting anyone but you are. Perhaps the reason that some disc manufactures don't give downloads of individual songs is beace of rampant piracy by people like Blue.  It would just make it easier for the pirates to continue their illegal actvity.  I would love to get songs that I want on an individual basis via a download.  I have spent $20 for 1 disc just becasue I wanted one song on the disc.  ANd perhaps the prices would be lower, if everyone was buying the songs they have, instead of stealing them.  I would love to see the cost of good quality CDG discs to be near the price od a regual CD instead of double or more.  But nahhhh, lets just use and share illegal copies, and drive up the prices for the honest, hard working people that actual pay for things, instead os stealing them.


And no, I don't need to go to Wal-Mart and buy myself a life.  But perhaps you could go there and STEAL one for yourself.

I think the main reason individual songs aren't available for download is because if they did that, a lot of songs would be pretty much ignored. So they put out discs with a couple things that people really want and the rest is pretty much filler. It keeps the whole business going anyway.

You seem to use that word alot. Perhaps you drool when you speak also?

I refuse to care. Good gosh...... here, you can have this thread Twans, maybe it'll get ya some of the attention you seem to be lacking...??
It's all yours.



Hey, now why didn't I think of that? I am looking for a new life matter of fact... does a new man come in that "life" package? Cause mine is starting to fail miserably, and it would save me some time if Walmart had them prepackaged.  Thanks for the heads up. (but hey, you really shouldn't be giving advice on how/where to steal things, that's illegal buddy)

I will be the bigger man, see ya........  :wave:


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There is no point in arguing, she "honestly" don't believe that she and those that think like her are harming the industry in any way.  That's why the RIAA has busted several thousands that have music they have no proof of "paying" (I guess you could think that once it's on YOUR hard drive you own it...another misconception) for through legal sources.

I guess live & let live...once the manufacturers quit producing music due to excessive theft (remember it's only 1 person here), there won't be anything more to steal.

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I really don't think anybody is going to quit putting out music.  Nobody's starving in the music production/manufacturing business.  There's still enough profit for the companies.  If anything, there's too much quantity and not enough quality out there.
A little downsizing on the artist roster may not be such a bad idea!

Haha........ Gawd, I'm bored...... Look what I found:



On the karaoke pirate blah blah site. (forgot to copy the link, but I'm sure anyone who wants to can dig for it)

So, according to this, ALL I have to do is clip a few seconds off the intro or outro to the song and I'm good to go?  

Because, when I sing them, I'm educating the listeners about a new song.  Pretty much.... if it's new to even one of them. Or if I throw in the statement "Okay, I'm gonna show ya how this song goes".


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Music Maestro is out of business - they claimed it was piracy - I think it was terrible tracks myself.  
Pop Hits Monthly quit producing the Rock series - they claimed it was due to piracy as well.  
Top Tunes is out of business due to piracy on their end (at least that's the forum scuttlebutt).  
Sound Choice has slowed down production of their discs considerably over the years from what they used to produce on almost a monthly basis - piracy is the reason they have claimed.

I would also have to agree that it is illegal to get a track/disc from someone (borrowing to listen to is different provided no copy was made).  You can't say that you wouldn't have bought the song if I hadn't got it from someone.  If you did pay for the song, then no harm no foul, if you weren't planning on buying it & didn't buy/download - no harm no foul.  But when you take it without paying for it - regardless of whether you were planning on paying for it or not isn't really an argument mainly because now there are 2 copies floating around rather than 1 original - that 2nd (and subsequent number of copies that may have been made/sent out) copy is technically revenue lost to the manufacturer, artist &/or copyright holder.

But on the flipside to all that, people have been making copies since the advent of tape - be it reel to reel, 4 track, 8 track, cassette, I am willing to bet that no one in here can't say they don't have something they recorded (album, tape, radio) from a friend on tape of some sort.  The only difference now is that the technology has advanced enough that the copy can usually mimic the sonic clarity of the original & can be freely distributed to the masses.  Recording on tapes from friends was usually just that, a couple people may have a copy.  Today, all someone has to do is put their copy on some file sharing site & now millions now have access.

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Well, obviously the internet and computers has made the whole idea of sharing music of all kinds a lot easier.  You don't have to make a cassette copy in real time anymore -- it can all be done in a few blinks of the eye.  So what is the solution to all of this?  I don't think people will ever adhere to all the copyright laws.  I don't see any easy answer out there.  So will the battle just continue on and on?

That's why it's going to hurt in the long run because the manufacturers will just eventually give up making anything new once a point comes that they are losing a certain percentage.  There is nothing really that can be done except that enforcement such as the RIAA tracking IP's of everyone that goes to those types of sites - which they have & actively do these days.  I remember the one grandma that got fined over $10,000 for several hundred songs that were downloaded using her computer - unbeknownst to her it was her grandson actually doing it.  It may not stop that casual trader with a friend, but the bulk type sites.

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I remember that case!  Maybe it's possible to develope some completely unbreakable copy protection and/or mechanism that prohibits certain file transfers?
I don't know if such a thing is even remotely possible.

Whatever is made digitally, someone will be able to hack it - enforcement will be the only way & if fines get stiff enough, then that may shy people away from illegal downloads.  
Hell all it took to break the 'copy protection' on them multisession discs was a black permanent ink marker.

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