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If you only have most of your discs, that's an issue, but if you contact SC first (before they've expended funds on an investigation) they will usually allow you to resolve it simply by deleting the material you don't have discs for.

HarringtonLaw wrote:

Seems to me the most revenue positive, and PR positive, would be for SC to sell the KJ the missing tracks. Win win!

I am NOT a Sound Choice representative, but I am a certified host.

It is pretty simple really. Contact Sound Choice to arrange for an audit.

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I'm curious how it typically works that someone gets challenged for copyright or trademark or whatever violations. Is it that a KJ is doing a show and a copyright monitor comes and notes all tracks that were played from the specific manufacturer(s) being monitored and then challenge the KJ produce the original discs containing those tracks? Is the KJ supposed to produce the discs right then and there? Would the monitor be able to impound the hard drive and search for any monitored tracks and then demand corresponding discs for all of them? How does a monitor prove that a violation has occurred? Would they go to court with a recording or video of the show and then the KJ would have to produce the original discs? If they did actually record the show, would that in itself be a copyright violation both of any other manufacturer's tracks and the performers?

Author:	picard [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:24 am ]
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I have most of my original disks and haven't been named yet. Clearly sc has no clue what a kj has so they are just suing everyone in hopes to get some cash. The problem is we arent rich and live show to show. Harrington, what do they want us to do to keep them happy? delete the sc directory? or pay a fee or what? I mean even if it were to go to court and they get some sort of judgement, I personally am disabled and live on social security and a few shows a month. I have nothing worth anything. Seems like a lot of bs from what im seeing on other sites that sc is pretty much suing everyone.

Author:	chrisavis [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:27 am ]
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I am NOT a Sound Choice representative, but I am a certified host. It is pretty simple really. Contact Sound Choice to arrange for an audit. Contact Info - http://www.soundchoicestore.com/certified_host_inq.html List of Certified hosts - http://www.soundchoicestore.com/certified-hosts.html

Author:	JimHarrington [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:35 pm ]
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If you have all of your discs, then SC doesn't want your money. There is normally a fee for the audit ($150) but if you are in reduced financial circumstances SC will usually work with you. If you only have most of your discs, that's an issue, but if you contact SC first (before they've expended funds on an investigation) they will usually allow you to resolve it simply by deleting the material you don't have discs for. The key here is to contact SC first. Don't wait to be sued. The outcome is always better for a KJ who contacts SC first.

Author:	kwp99 [ Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:42 pm ]
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I'm curious how it typically works that someone gets challenged for copyright or trademark or whatever violations. Is it that a KJ is doing a show and a copyright monitor comes and notes all tracks that were played from the specific manufacturer(s) being monitored and then challenge the KJ produce the original discs containing those tracks? Is the KJ supposed to produce the discs right then and there? Would the monitor be able to impound the hard drive and search for any monitored tracks and then demand corresponding discs for all of them? How does a monitor prove that a violation has occurred? Would they go to court with a recording or video of the show and then the KJ would have to produce the original discs? If they did actually record the show, would that in itself be a copyright violation both of any other manufacturer's tracks and the performers?

Author:	Robin Dean [ Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:43 am ]
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HarringtonLaw wrote: If you only have most of your discs, that's an issue, but if you contact SC first (before they've expended funds on an investigation) they will usually allow you to resolve it simply by deleting the material you don't have discs for. Seems to me the most revenue positive, and PR positive, would be for SC to sell the KJ the missing tracks. Win win!

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Author:	chrisavis [ Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:14 am ]
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Robin Dean wrote: HarringtonLaw wrote: If you only have most of your discs, that's an issue, but if you contact SC first (before they've expended funds on an investigation) they will usually allow you to resolve it simply by deleting the material you don't have discs for. Seems to me the most revenue positive, and PR positive, would be for SC to sell the KJ the missing tracks. Win win! They effectively do this now with having plaintiffs pick up a GEM license. Although it will likely not have all the tracks in question since SC doesn't have license to distribute many tracks from the back catalog.

Author:	rickberry [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:49 pm ]
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chrisavis wrote: I am NOT a Sound Choice representative, but I am a certified host. It is pretty simple really. Contact Sound Choice to arrange for an audit. Contact Info - http://www.soundchoicestore.com/certified_host_inq.html List of Certified hosts - http://www.soundchoicestore.com/certified-hosts.html Simply enough put, I am sure they are busy with that audit list... It must be immense. But it is not so easy to get it over with apparently. It has been awfully quiet in the 3 years since I had contacted them. Not really in any hurry to go thru all that BS, but nonetheless it has been almost 3 years since my last contact with Kurt and Chris. I think they have probably taken the time in those few years to send out inspectors and check me out ...maybe, who knows. Till then I just keep buying and working in good faith. *********** RE: Sound Choice audit Chris Emrie 3/14/12 To: Rick Berry Rick, We did receive your audit paperwork and I turned it over to the guy that schedules audits. We are still ironing out the bugs in our audit system and hopefully he will be contacting you soon. ************ From: Rick Berry [mailto:rickberry_rse@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:40 AM To: Chris Emrie Subject: RE: Sound Choice audit A few weeks ago I sent you the paperwork priority mail. I just wanted a confirmation that you received it. ... I have not heard from anyone since this letter from you. Take you're time , I am in no hurry, don't know when I'll find the time anyways..sooo busy. I am working 7 nights a week now. Ugh, I need a clone. I have had several of the Kj's ask to see copies of the paperwork.... Thanks for your time Mr. Emrie Rick Berry ************* From: chrise@soundchoice.com Subject: Sound Choice audit Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:35:24 -0500 Hello there, This is Chris from Sound Choice. A couple of weeks ago you requested to be shceduled for a Sound Choice audit. So I sent ou an email with attachments containing the paperwork. The reason I ma contacting you is we have not received anything back form you. If you still would like to be scheduled for an audit, please let us know by sending in the filled out paperwork. If not just send an email letting me know you no longer want to be audited. We look forward to doing business with you. Thanks, Chris Sound Choice 800-788-4487

Author:	jdmeister [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:12 am ]
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I suggest "Return Receipt Requested"..

Author:	JoeChartreuse [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:52 pm ]
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kwp99 wrote: I'm curious how it typically works that someone gets challenged for copyright or trademark or whatever violations. Is it that a KJ is doing a show and a copyright monitor comes and notes all tracks that were played from the specific manufacturer(s) being monitored and then challenge the KJ produce the original discs containing those tracks? Is the KJ supposed to produce the discs right then and there? Would the monitor be able to impound the hard drive and search for any monitored tracks and then demand corresponding discs for all of them? How does a monitor prove that a violation has occurred? Would they go to court with a recording or video of the show and then the KJ would have to produce the original discs? If they did actually record the show, would that in itself be a copyright violation both of any other manufacturer's tracks and the performers? Excellent post. Good luck on getting a comprehensive and straightforward answer.

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