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Speaking of......I need to start writing my annual thank you letter to the Queen.

As far as I can tell all these artists are part of Universal record label so I suspect that it is currently just Universal that is not allowing karaoke.

Did anyone notice that there are only a couple of Country Artists on this list?

Someone noticed Country music? Wow.

chrisavis wrote:

Someone noticed Country music? Wow.

Yea being in the LARGEST country state in the union I'd say I noticed Country. At least with country music I can understand the words and it's not just a bunch or yelling, screaming, rapping, ear splitting music.

Other than country give me the oldies say early 80's and before. Yep I'm showing my age :wink:

I believe Jim said in the past that only one owner needs to give their approval.

Author:	MrBoo [ Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:20 am ]
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I am mainly asking James for his opinion on this, but anyone else in the manufacturing business that has credible knowledge is welcome to chime in. My question is, how did the No Fly List form? I know there have been a few no fly's for a long time but the list really took off of recent. It seems the Artists are across the board when it comes to publishers. Who is driving this and how does it work in general? Please provide adjusted question(s) if I failed to ask properly. This would be a great place to pose any related questions from those that wish to inquire but I would like to keep the answers to first hand and not second hand if at all possible.

Author:	TopherM [ Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:40 am ]
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Do you mean artists that do not allow their work to be licensed as karaoke? Where is this "No Fly List" located? I've never heard of such a thing. EDIT: Nevermind...I found it on the Digitrax site. The funny thing is that there are thousands of karaoke tracks available from the artists on that list.

Author:	MrBoo [ Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:45 am ]
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yes, Artists who do not want their works to be recreated and sold for karaoke. The overseas manufacturers are now honoring the list as far as downloads are concerned.. https://www.facebook.com/ZoomKaraoke/ph ... hoto_reply http://www.sunflykaraoke.com/content/faqs/6370835/

Author:	MrBoo [ Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:50 am ]
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Here is the list Sunfly has.. KARAOKE NO FLY LIST: ANYTHING WRITTEN OR PERFORMED BY: 30 SECOND TO MARS ABBA ADELE AMY FOSTER PREVEN, ANNE WHITE, BARRY BEE GEES BON JOVI BURT BACHARACH CARL STURKEN CHICAGO CHRIS ISAAK CHRISTINA AGUILERA THE CLASH COLDPLAY DAMIEN RICE DAVID BYRNE DAVID MATTHEWS BAND DIRE STRAITS / MARK KNOPFLER DON HENLEY DONNA LEWIS DONNA WEISS THE EAGLES ELVIS COSTELLO EURYTHMICS EVAN ROGERS FOALS FOO FIGHTERS FRENTE! GEORGE GERSHWIN & IRA GERSHWIN GREEN DAY HARRY NILSSON HOWARD GREENFIELD HUEY LEWIS IRON MAIDEN JACK JOHNSON JACK TEMPCHIN JACQUES BREL THE JAM JAMES HORNER JAY-Z JEFF BASS JOHN WILLIAMS JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE KATY PERRY THE KILLERS LED ZEPPELIN LINDA THOMPSON LINKIN PARK MADONNA METALLICA MGMT MUMFORD & SONS MUSE MUTT LANGE NATALIE IMBRUGLIA NEIL SEDAKA NEW ORDER NICKELBACK PAMELA TILLIS PARAMORE PAUL SIMON PAUL WELLER PETER YARROW PINK FLOYD (ROGER WATERS) PRINCE PRISCILLA RENEA R.E.M RADIOHEAD RAMMSTEIN RANDY NEWMAN ROD TEMPERTON SAVAGE GARDEN SCOTT CUTLER SNAP STEPHEN SONDHEIM STEPHEN STILLS STEVE WINWOOD STEVEN SATER SUZANNE VEGA SYSTEM OF A DOWN THE CARS THE RAMONES THE SWELL SEASON TOM WAITS U2 VAN HALEN VAN MORRISON WALLFLOWERS WAYNE HECTOR YES YOUNG THE GIANT

Author:	kjflorida [ Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:15 am ]
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Yes the list is increasing exponentially it is over twice the size it was a bit over a year ago. Artists from all publishers are included and until recently it applied to Us here in the USA only (due to our opt in licensing) recently much to the dismay of the PRS licensed (UK) manufactures the publishers have begun filling out the paperwork to opt out of licensing in the UK as well. Opt in licensing requires an agreement for tracks to be made for karaoke and negotiation of fees involved... this is the USA licensing model. Opt out licensing has set fees and allows any track to be produced for karaoke unless the publishers fill out paperwork to exclude the tracks... this is the licensing model that the rest of the world as a whole uses

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Author:	Smoothedge69 [ Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:04 pm ]
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Thankfully, KV is still selling "NoFlies". I was able to get Wasted Years, from Iron Maiden. Had my eye on it for a while, figured I better get it quick.

Author:	MrBoo [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:59 am ]
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Sunfly has their stuff still up as well. Or they did yesterday. I think the deadline is July 1. I don't know what that means but I have seen two people (Zoom and Customburn) use that date.

Author:	chrisavis [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:55 am ]
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Probably because July 4th is Independence Day and the publisher will be celebrating their break from the UK and securing their draconian rule over what we can and can't use for something as benign as karaoke. Speaking of......I need to start writing my annual thank you letter to the Queen.

Author:	Cueball [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:15 pm ]
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chrisavis wrote: Speaking of......I need to start writing my annual thank you letter to the Queen. Why? Did you get invited to her Birthday Party again? My invite must have gotten lost in the mail

Author:	Gnome Karaoke [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:35 pm ]
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As far as I can tell all these artists are part of Universal record label so I suspect that it is currently just Universal that is not allowing karaoke.

Author:	Lonman [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:52 pm ]
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Gnome Karaoke wrote: As far as I can tell all these artists are part of Universal record label so I suspect that it is currently just Universal that is not allowing karaoke. Karaoke downloads is just part of Universals thing, they are also going after sites that sell regular music by those artists/writers in download & digital streams as well.

Author:	Lone Wolf [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:30 am ]
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Did anyone notice that there are only a couple of Country Artists on this list?

Author:	Smoothedge69 [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:25 pm ]
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Lone Wolf wrote: Did anyone notice that there are only a couple of Country Artists on this list? Yes, I have noticed that!!

Author:	chrisavis [ Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:55 am ]
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Someone noticed Country music? Wow.

Author:	Paradigm Karaoke [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:59 pm ]
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Here is a question I think Jim is best suited to answer... does it take only one of the writers to make a sing not usable for karaoke,or just one writer to override that and make it ok? for example hotel California... does it only take Glenn Frey to make it not usable even if the others were ok, or does Don Felder giving his permission make it ok even if the others say no.

Author:	Paradigm Karaoke [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:00 pm ]
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KV just sent an email about their acoustic versions including Hotel California....

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Author:	Lone Wolf [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:59 am ]
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chrisavis wrote: Someone noticed Country music? Wow. Yea being in the LARGEST country state in the union I'd say I noticed Country. At least with country music I can understand the words and it's not just a bunch or yelling, screaming, rapping, ear splitting music. Other than country give me the oldies say early 80's and before. Yep I'm showing my age

Author:	chrisavis [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:30 am ]
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Lone Wolf wrote: chrisavis wrote: Someone noticed Country music? Wow. Yea being in the LARGEST country state in the union I'd say I noticed Country. At least with country music I can understand the words and it's not just a bunch or yelling, screaming, rapping, ear splitting music. Other than country give me the oldies say early 80's and before. Yep I'm showing my age See this post..... viewtopic.php?f=24&t=30020

Author:	timberlea [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:05 pm ]
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I believe Jim said in the past that only one owner needs to give their approval.

Author:	Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:59 pm ]
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timberlea wrote: I believe Jim said in the past that only one owner needs to give their approval. That would explain Killing The Blues - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss. Plant doesn't want his precious Zeppelin music or his poor quality solo music to go the Karaoke route, but suddenly this one comes out. I guess Alison has a more favorable outlook on Karaoke.