Ah yes, the old "I'm just providing a conversion service" scam.
Well I guess that means HE has the original discs for all 250,000 songs...right?
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| Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
Here is their disclaimer - Legality: This material is being offered for conveyance and conversion convenience only. Be sure to obey all laws and rules regarding performing karaoke shows. You can have digital music on a hard drive, Karaoke Producers insist you buy the original materials before doing karaoke shows. Never pirate materials and pay proper royalties. Be sure to find and review valuable legal information at ASCAP, BMI and KIAA. Please also visit the individual karaoke sites for additional information. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/4317921575.html Also listed here - http://www.usfreeads.com/2125363-cls.html |
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| Author: | Kuelman1 [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
$159.00 for a 2tb hard drive and lifetime updates....He is the Karaoke King! No wonder some of these guys do shows for less then $75.00. |
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| Author: | MadMusicOne [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:58 pm ] |
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Kuelman1 wrote: $159.00 for a 2tb hard drive and lifetime updates....He is the Karaoke King! No wonder some of these guys do shows for less then $75.00. ...This looks like the same guy they've been chasing for years and NOTHING happens... so to add salt to an open womb, making $50.00-$75.00 per HD, it's No Wonder this guy continues to sale them. ...and we get laughed at by his pirate KJ customers who buy from him. ...Like I've said for years now, unless the copyrights holders, KJs, karaoke manufacturers and venues come together, nothing will happen. The same small percentage of legal hosts, that purchase tracks legally, will be the ones holding supporting the industry for others to abuse. Kind of like the way the U.S.A. operates now. |
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| Author: | Bazza [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
Ah yes, the old "I'm just providing a conversion service" scam. Well I guess that means HE has the original discs for all 250,000 songs...right?
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| Author: | toqer [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
Nobody could ever agree on what to do. That's why this still happens. A lot of you were shills for the manu's, and let's face it, the manu's had the wrong strategy from the start. When laws need to be changed, you take it to your local political representative, you bring a lot of money and signatures. Until we knock this off, we're doomed. There won't be any US manu's left. Karaoke needs to be afforded the same copyright protection that is given by the licensing agencies. SC/CB/STLR need to get their cut from ASCAP/BMI/SESAC, and let those agencies go after the unlicensed. This won't happen without an act from congress. |
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| Author: | BruceFan4Life [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
Well, at least you have rid the karaoke Forums of these hard drive sellers. But the karaoke Bars are full of them. How's that working out for your bottom lines? |
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| Author: | Paradigm Karaoke [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
If only there was some entity that wanted to shut these sellers down. Maybe buying a drive or two as evidence of commercial use (resale) of trademarked and copyrighted material without paying the rights holders for those licenses. Perhaps some entity that is specifically in the business of suing over karaoke piracy, I would find this a hard case to lose. |
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| Author: | rickgood [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:04 pm ] |
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Then there goes the new customer base, that would be stupid. |
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| Author: | TopherM [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:37 am ] |
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If you wanted to tie up some of your own money and lots of your own time, I bet you could win an "unfair practices" lawsuit against this guy. You would have to be in his actual market, and have to come up with some compelling MATH of how much $$$ his activity has personally caused you. Just a vague "he hurts the whole industry" isn't going to cut it for a civil suit. |
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| Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
 The fact is there is a never ending supply of illegal HD material constantly available if a customer wants to purchase it. Despite efforts to control and stop this illegal trade it still continues. For the most part private libraries are not being pursued by law enforcement because they would have to lock up at least 50% of the public at large. If you cannot stop the source of the supply the illegal trade will continue, that is just one of the facts of life. Just like the war on illegal drugs has been lost so has this war on trying to stop illegal hard drives. The solution is to regulate it like they have decided to do with some recreational drugs. Until we devise some system to deal with this problem, the only thing the average commercial host can do is focus on his own show and try to make it the best he or she can.
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| Author: | jclaydon [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:53 am ] |
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The solution is fairly simple, in my opinion. Do EXACTLY what the music industry has done. Offer your product in an affordable manner, in the format that people want. Itunes makes hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars, so they must be doing something right. some companies seem either unwilling or unable to do this, altho I don't really understandwhy. -James |
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| Author: | Paradigm Karaoke [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:10 pm ] |
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jclaydon wrote: The solution is fairly simple, in my opinion. Do EXACTLY what the music industry has done. Offer your product in an affordable manner, in the format that people want. that is exactly what Digitrax, All Star, Sunfly, Zoom, Mr Entertainer, SBI, DK, Priddis, Tropical Zone, Music Factory, Stagestars are doing and it does seem to be working. |
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| Author: | toqer [ Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:46 pm ] |
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jclaydon wrote: The solution is fairly simple, in my opinion. Do EXACTLY what the music industry has done. Offer your product in an affordable manner, in the format that people want. And provide an API that any software maker can access. 163 songs bought on one of my systems in just the last 2 weeks alone. |
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:32 pm ] |
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toqer wrote: jclaydon wrote: The solution is fairly simple, in my opinion. Do EXACTLY what the music industry has done. Offer your product in an affordable manner, in the format that people want. And provide an API that any software maker can access. 163 songs bought on one of my systems in just the last 2 weeks alone. What is an API?? |
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| Author: | Cueball [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "New" Hard Drive Pirate out of AZ... |
Smoothedge69 wrote: What is an API?? In computer programming, an application programming interface ( API) specifies how some software components should interact with each other
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| Author: | Smoothedge69 [ Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:49 pm ] |
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cueball wrote: Smoothedge69 wrote: What is an API?? In computer programming, an application programming interface ( API) specifies how some software components should interact with each otherThank you, very much. |
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