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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:47 am 
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It may be a bit stale but I just came across it.

http://www.lawsuitdata.com/lawsuit-data ... documents/

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Most of what you post has become a bit stale to me.


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Insane KJ wrote:
It may be a bit stale but I just came across it.

http://www.lawsuitdata.com/lawsuit-data ... documents/

You are the ONLY one I know who would actually pay for legal documents. You post this crap as if you think everyone wants to waste money buying these things. Do you make money off this?? I mean really??

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These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......

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Insane KJ wrote:
It may be a bit stale but I just came across it.

http://www.lawsuitdata.com/lawsuit-data ... documents/

You are the ONLY one I know who would actually pay for legal documents. You post this crap as if you think everyone wants to waste money buying these things. Do you make money off this?? I mean really??

I gotta ask, so you think the lawsuits are "crap" or that the posting of the lawsuit links here are "crap". One answer tells me you don't want to be aware of lawsuits and the other tell me that you are ok with possible stealing of another's property (Note: I did not call the named a pirate just so we are clear and that is for them to determine and not me or you). A clairification of you position will help with future discussions. Some of do care what is going on in the Karaoke world aside from our own little towns and villages.

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Kuelman1 wrote:
Most of what you post has become a bit stale to me.


Regardless of the source, I hardly find the listing of a new suit as stale. I goes to show that there is actions continuing in our industry (wrong right or otherwise)

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These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......


And if they were found to be "damaged" by the court...........

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rumbolt wrote:
JoeChartreuse wrote:
These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......


And if they were found to be "damaged" by the court...........



8) It's hard enough collecting as the primary damaged party, just how hard is it going to be playing second in line to get compensation?


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rumbolt wrote:
Kuelman1 wrote:
Most of what you post has become a bit stale to me.


Regardless of the source, I hardly find the listing of a new suit as stale. I goes to show that there is actions continuing in our industry (wrong right or otherwise)


As I said it has become stale to me.
Yes I know about lawsuits going on.
No I am not a pirate.
Nothing ever seems to get done if you do report them.
Yes I am tired of the same old group and their anti pirate crusade posts.
The OP never contributes to any other subject.
No I do not hate Sound Choice.
Give us a break already!

Ok rant over.

Continue on with the crusade!!!!!


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What amazes me is that there are some with no skin in the game get so riled. To me I don't care what company sues who. It is their business. Businesses sue and get sued all the time. It is nothing new or nefarious. It's a part of doing business.

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The Lone Ranger wrote:
rumbolt wrote:
JoeChartreuse wrote:
These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......


And if they were found to be "damaged" by the court...........



8) It's hard enough collecting as the primary damaged party, just how hard is it going to be playing second in line to get compensation?


And you suppose this how?

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rumbolt wrote:
The Lone Ranger wrote:
rumbolt wrote:
JoeChartreuse wrote:
These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......


And if they were found to be "damaged" by the court...........



8) It's hard enough collecting as the primary damaged party, just how hard is it going to be playing second in line to get compensation?


And you suppose this how?


Oh come on now....are you really asking how Lone Ranger comes up with his opinions? He is probably the guy that taught yetis how to schlap.....

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timberlea wrote:
What amazes me is that there are some with no skin in the game get so riled. To me I don't care what company sues who. It is their business. Businesses sue and get sued all the time. It is nothing new or nefarious. It's a part of doing business.


Tim, I agree with most of your post. I really do not know why I still care who is getting sued. I really don't. But it's a lawyer's world where getting sued is just a part of doing business. It's a world I really don't agree with. Lawyers make it out like it's no big deal. But to average folks it seems like a life changer. Lawyers know that. Lawyers thrive on it. I hate it. Now I guess we know why this stuff matters to me. Rant over.


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rumbolt wrote:
JoeChartreuse wrote:
These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......


And if they were found to be "damaged" by the court...........


I would figure that either the defense lawyer or the judge was drunk.

Of course, I would enjoy reading how WDE could have been damaged. Their job is to be used to add credibility to a weak case. Any WDE claim should - in the real world - be seen as a joke. That 8s, of course unless someone can come up with the slightest connection that WDE could claim?

On the other hand, I also believe PR has an even weaker (non-existent) case than SC in regard to damages. Yup, they own the CB trademark, but as non-producers and non-distributors, proving actual damages will be incredibly tough to do. They can't claim loss of sales, nor an attempt to mis-represent product, nor loss of any royalties, etc.. They might pull off a technical win, but any award should be miniscule.

Then again, as another IP troll like SC, the intent is to intimidate a settlement, not go to court.

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A clairification of you position will help with future discussions. Some of do care what is going on in the Karaoke world aside from our own little towns and villages.

You want clarification?? Here it is.............I really DON'T care about every little lawsuit out there. Many of them ARE just witch hunts looking for those who just media shifted the products they have purchased. You know it, I know it, we all know it, and many of us disagree with that practice. As has been stated before, NOTHING has been done to those who sell loaded hard drives, or those who run sharing sites. But how many people who just shifted their own, purchased content have gotten in some sort of trouble over it, have had their reputations ruined, have lost shows because of that?? As Joe mentioned, what does Piracy Recovery have to gain by suing people?? They didn't create anything?? Their IS NO damage done to them.

As for whether or not I care if someone is stealing music, as long as they aren't stealing mine, I really couldn't care less. It just doesn't effect me, or anyone else. I have KJs in my area who have loaded drives, I have a one or two that are disc based, and then there is me, who does the hybrid method. I put everything that nobody cares about on my computer, I use my SC discs as discs, (though that gets annoying because they are really old, so some of them are starting to wear,), and I buy everything else as single song downloads. I have two regular shows, one that I just started two weeks ago, and my Friday night show, which is quite successful. I am doing it with about 4,400 songs, though the collection grows a bit each week. People come to my show because they like ME, and the bar, not because of how many songs I have. So, the guy down the block can have 100,000 songs, and it doesn't effect me, in the least.

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Smooth, it affects you if you buy your music and he doesn't buy his.


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Smooth, theft affects EVERYBODY. It makes products more expensive as retailers have to charge more to recover their losses due to theft and we the consumer pays for that cost. It costs taxpayers more money because of the loss of tax revenue from the products being sold, thereby forcing higher taxes and the requirement of more LEOs, courts, and prisons and the extra costs of expanding and running them. And let's not forget insurance costs of higher premiums and payouts. So Smooth your statement that theft doesn't affect you is patently false, unless you have never bought any items, paid taxes, or gotten insurance.

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Smooth, it affects you if you buy your music and he doesn't buy his.

I hasn't so far. I run my show, they run theirs, and ne'er the twain shall me, except at each others shows. LOL

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rumbolt wrote:
JoeChartreuse wrote:
These folks are roaming around NJ as well. I expect the same results as SC's. Blah....

No need to buy documents, basic info free on Justia.

I enjoy that WDE is filling it's only purpose as a second "damaged party ". Seriously.......


And if they were found to be "damaged" by the court...........

PRLLC was created by Norbert to sell the trademark to after the demise while he moved over to work in WDE.
no different than if I bought the Music Maestro trademark (ala PRLLC) and then began suing for my damages.
I can't legally do that, so why can they?

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