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and we are back to 6 Pioneer laser discs. that makes things easy :lol:

What exactly does this mean? Are we supposed to remove these artists from our libraries?

WOW! Haven't seen a bigger pile of steaming manure in a LONG time.
LICENSING is PERMISSION GIVEN BY THE LICENSEE TO USE THERE PRODUCT OR TRADEMARK SC, of course,NEVER recieved that permission for the tracks noted above, and many others not mentioned. They merely payed off for the unpermitted usage to relieve liability.

Jim....REALLY? Your own credibility for the sake of SC?

Clark Music Australia?

So what sound choice songs do they have available for custom Discs? I just checked them out and cannot find anything sound choice I at all let alone any sound choice songs I want?

Music Maestro, Zoom, Easy Karaoke, Priddus.

But nothing Sound Choice?

Author:	gretchen [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:51 am ]
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For those of you who were looking for the list go to www.karaokecloud.info

Author:	MadMusicOne [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:02 am ]
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...Wow, that would kill most of the shows I do!

Author:	The Lone Ranger [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:43 am ]
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I guess there is an up side to all of this a host wouldn't have to carry around as many discs or have as big a hard drives as they are using now. If you don't have a song just say the artist doesn't want you to sing it. Simple right?

Author:	Lonman [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:47 am ]
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Yep that would destroy my show if I were not allowed to play those anymore. I noticed you missing several though. ALmost all the Seattle grunge bands (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and more), Heart, Jimi Hendrix

Author:	Paradigm Karaoke [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:19 pm ]
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and we are back to 6 Pioneer laser discs. that makes things easy

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Author:	Lone Wolf [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:28 pm ]
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WOW I guess it's crank up the Country as I didn't see many country stars that didn't want you to sing their stuff. There were a few but mostly older stars and none of the newer stuff.

Author:	Cueball [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:34 pm ]
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At least we still have The Beatles, Ringo Starr, Paul McCartney (and Wings), and John Lennon (unless Yoko Ono says otherwise).

Author:	jdmeister [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:34 pm ]
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I still have my Eagles disk.. (Still in the wrapper)

Author:	JoeChartreuse [ Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:03 am ]
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First, my thanks to Gretchen for supplyng the list. After looking it over, I note the following: Were I to remove the tracks from my OMD based show- which, of course, I wouldn't- for me it would be about 14 artists that mattered, 2 or 3 songs apiece. No real biggie. However, the principle sucks, and if Kurt can pull of what HE'S trying to do- awaken the giants- it will probably get a whole lot worse- especially for karaoke mfrs. who are still producing, unlike SC.

Author:	johnny reverb [ Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:06 am ]
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My message to those arteeests , is a quote from the Rolling Stones......"you can't always get, what you waaaahhhhant"...........

Author:	The Lone Ranger [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:43 am ]
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: and we are back to 6 Pioneer laser discs. that makes things easy Did you get permission to shift those 6 Pioneer lasers, just kidding.

Author:	dmmagic [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:29 pm ]
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What exactly does this mean? Are we supposed to remove these artists from our libraries?

Author:	Rockrz [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:47 am ]
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dmmagic wrote: What exactly does this mean? Are we supposed to remove these artists from our libraries? Apparently... or be considered a criminal... by some. Just call your show a religious worship event! Under copyright laws, songs performs as part of a religious worship are exempt from paying copyright royalties, but the lyrics cannot be posted for all to see.

Author:	mightywiz [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:20 pm ]
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dmmagic wrote: What exactly does this mean? Are we supposed to remove these artists from our libraries? if you own the original disc that included that artist, then it is legal to use. at the time of production of the disc they had a license to produce that karaoke version. just mean's you won't see any new music from those artists on karaoke. I watched all the karaoke summit video's and the big thing they mentioned is that some "iffy manu's" didn't place manufacturer info and copyright notices on the disc's so their stuff is not legal. ex: hot stuff karaoke, standing ovation. these are the 2 kurt slept mentioned in the video as "probably not legit"...

Author:	TedJankowski [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:43 am ]
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Boy I love this forum! I am amazed at all the people that spend more time pondering these questions than i do. And I do appreciate the information discussed. Enjoyable reading but I'll keep my two cents out of it as It is uninformed and probably isn't even worth the two cents. But these are some gems being posted here. Thanks guys for posting

Author:	doowhatchulike [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:54 am ]
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A lot of the information presented in the past few posts points out one major factor: there seems to be a lot of areas in the whole process that lack regulation. It would appear that, going by the actions of some of the viable manufacturers, they are vying for regulation on the user end, which some might seem as ironic. Given that many of these practices between publishers and users in movies, television and radio occur daily, if not hourly, and the regulation is not being pushed on them, it is hard to conceive that there is a priority level to do so in such a relatively miniscule, niche market as commercial karaoke. That is not to say it cannot happen, but the uphill climb seems pretty steep, and full of potential pitfalls, on the manufacturer AND the user end...

Author:	TedJankowski [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:39 am ]
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Wow, I see what you're saying. It almost looked exactly the same but was linked from SC. Cool thanks. http://www.mykaraokecdg.com.au/customer/home.php here's the link for others. First song I checked. Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Yes they have it. That disk just sold for over a hundred bucks on Ebay. Yet it can still be legally downloaded. I'm glad I read posts on this forum.

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Author:	JimHarrington [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:39 am ]
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JoeChartreuse wrote: WOW! Haven't seen a bigger pile of steaming manure in a LONG time. LICENSING is *PERMISSION GIVEN BY THE LICENSEE TO USE THERE PRODUCT OR TRADEMARK* SC, of course,NEVER recieved that *permission* for the tracks noted above, and many others not mentioned. They merely payed off for the unpermitted usage to relieve liability. Jim....REALLY? Your own credibility for the sake of SC? I have nearly fifteen years work in this area of the law and a degree from a top law school to back up my opinion. I have also reviewed the relevant documents before offering my opinion. You can't say the same, and you offer nothing to back up your opinion. It seems that my credibility is not at issue or, for that matter, in question. Please stop making false statements--and that includes the statement that the materials in question are not licensed or legitimate.

Author:	leopard lizard [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:35 am ]
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TedJankowski wrote: Clark Music Australia? So what sound choice songs do they have available for custom Discs? I just checked them out and cannot find anything sound choice I at all let alone any sound choice songs I want? Music Maestro, Zoom, Easy Karaoke, Priddus. But nothing Sound Choice? If you go to Clark via the link on the SC site for "Custom CDG" then you will get to the SC songs. I remember once seeing a Clark site that had MM and Priddis but it may be a different one. The one that you link to via SC will have SC and Abraxa songs on it.