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8) I'm not talking about the CAV's unit. Although it is possible to convert the SCDG and convert it to MP3G, Roxbox has a program to do that. If you wanted to go through the trouble you could put the SCDG material on regular discs and then download them to a hard drive Juke box, it would be a lot of work, but it can be done. Have a blessed day.

The Lone Ranger wrote:

Except that the SCDG are usually ripped at a low rate 96-128, and I believe someone had mentioned when you convert from SCDG to mp3g it's is actually reprocessing and further degrading the sound.

Same problem with the CAVS, the sync always seems to be slight to more than slightly off. Don't know if any of those units have on fly sync adjust like many of the software programs do.

I went to a show last weekend that was using an Acesonic hard drive machine. It was terrible. The host couldn't get the right tracks to load. When he loaded songs from the SCDG disc, that probably came with it, everyone complained about the synch being way off. By the end of the night, the guy was saying that he was going back to his old CDG machine. LOL

It also had a hard time playing some tracks from a CD-R disc. It would play some tracks but not others? Go Figure. It also seem to have a stall at times when it went from one page to the next. The half second pause was very disconcerting; especially not knowing when it was going to happen.

Piece of junk if you ask me.

We treat all non-original media on the same terms. PC, CAVS, RSQ, burned discs, thumb drive, or whatever. The policy applies regardless.

The CAVS machines could play cdg discs as well. So yes it was quite easy for anyone (or store) to preload those with anything since it could take the disc and drop it to it's own hard drive. Just like the other jukebox type players.

Lonman wrote:

It could play the disc but not in proper sync Lonman, that is why I took my SCDG and converted them back to single disc format. I still have an old CAVS machine I never use.

The Lone Ranger wrote:

Lonman wrote:

It could play the disc but not in proper sync Lonman, that is why I took my SCDG and converted them back to single disc format. I still have an old CAVS machine I never use.

That isn't what you said. You said it couldn't play SC music. It could - you could even import the SC tracks to the hard drive. NONE of it was in sync - didn't matter the manu, it just couldn't sync graphics - period.

I really would like to see more comments on that (jukebox style) We went from 6-pack players-to homemade compilations(from legal disks) in carousels--than to sd card readers.Our numbers match ftom one to the other.I will never go computer untill it is that simple.It really makes the average pirate with their stolen hardrives jaw drop when they see a system that simple and no computer.

Author:	The Lone Ranger [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:17 am ]
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A great deal has been said of the PC and the disc hardly anything has been said about the hard drive player that is not a PC. U-Best has a machine, Acesonic sells one, some are pre-loaded and some you load yourself. They can hold up to 50,000 songs and have a 2TB capacity. You basically punch the number and go. It is a lot of work for the host to download all of your discs on the hard drive, I don't see too many of these used. I'm wondering what hosts think of them? P.S. I don't recall James ever mentioning pre loaded Juke Hard Drives, either when suing hosts. I guess they are pretty rare, I have only seen one host use them. There must be more out here or why make them?

Author:	Lonman [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:30 am ]
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Nothing i'd want. I have seen a couple of them - but those were CAVS units. They suck. Because you do HAVE to punch in a number. I don't know about the others mentioned, but I prefer being able to search the song I want just by typing in the name or artist. As far as being preloaded - only legal if they get the original discs with the machine. Some stores did sell them that way, most did not.

Author:	The Lone Ranger [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:21 pm ]
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I'm not talking about the CAV's unit. Although it is possible to convert the SCDG and convert it to MP3G or CDG, Roxbox has a program to do that. If you wanted to go through the trouble you could put the SCDG material on regular discs and then download them to a hard drive Juke box, it would be a lot of work, but it can be done. Have a blessed day. P.S. The new U-Best 368 comes with a USB port and it can have a computer keyboard connected to program the hard drive.

Author:	Lonman [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:27 pm ]
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The Lone Ranger wrote: 8) I'm not talking about the CAV's unit. Although it is possible to convert the SCDG and convert it to MP3G, Roxbox has a program to do that. If you wanted to go through the trouble you could put the SCDG material on regular discs and then download them to a hard drive Juke box, it would be a lot of work, but it can be done. Have a blessed day. Except that the SCDG are usually ripped at a low rate 96-128, and I believe someone had mentioned when you convert from SCDG to mp3g it's is actually reprocessing and further degrading the sound.

Author:	The Lone Ranger [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:34 pm ]
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Lonman wrote: The Lone Ranger wrote: 8) I'm not talking about the CAV's unit. Although it is possible to convert the SCDG and convert it to MP3G, Roxbox has a program to do that. If you wanted to go through the trouble you could put the SCDG material on regular discs and then download them to a hard drive Juke box, it would be a lot of work, but it can be done. Have a blessed day. Except that the SCDG are usually ripped at a low rate 96-128, and I believe someone had mentioned when you convert from SCDG to mp3g it's is actually reprocessing and further degrading the sound. Like I have said I have only seen one of these machines and could tell very little difference between an original disc played on it and the downloaded product. In fact I have heard some people say they like the sound of the music on the Juke better than the PC. That can only be if the PC operator hasn't updated his sound card, and is only using the one that came with the laptop, I would imagine. Have a blessed day. P.S. Maybe it sounds better because the music is not compressed like in the MP3 files. After all you download the music from the disc directly on the machine, it is not the same as a PC and does not sound the same. Just my opinion of course.

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Author:	JimHarrington [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:22 pm ]
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We treat all non-original media on the same terms. PC, CAVS, RSQ, burned discs, thumb drive, or whatever. The policy applies regardless.

Author:	timberlea [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:23 pm ]
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I've seen at least one "advertised" on a show called "Bar Rescue". I would imagine it is from China and the quality would be iffy.

Author:	BruceFan4Life [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:41 pm ]
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I went to a show last weekend that was using an Acesonic hard drive machine. It was terrible. The host couldn't get the right tracks to load. When he loaded songs from the SCDG disc, that probably came with it, everyone complained about the synch being way off. By the end of the night, the guy was saying that he was going back to his old CDG machine. It also had a hard time playing some tracks from a CD-R disc. It would play some tracks but not others? Go Figure. It also seem to have a stall at times when it went from one page to the next. The half second pause was very disconcerting; especially not knowing when it was going to happen. Piece of junk if you ask me.

Author:	Lonman [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:47 pm ]
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Same problem with the CAVS, the sync always seems to be slight to more than slightly off. Don't know if any of those units have on fly sync adjust like many of the software programs do.

Author:	The Lone Ranger [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:00 am ]
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Lonman wrote: Same problem with the CAVS, the sync always seems to be slight to more than slightly off. Don't know if any of those units have on fly sync adjust like many of the software programs do. This U-best machine I saw does have on fly sync, maybe they have made some improvements, I know now they have the USB port and also a hook up to link it with the PC monitor. The operator I saw didn't seem to have a problem, maybe it depends on the experience of the person running the machine also. Have a blessed day.

Author:	Lonman [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:12 am ]
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The CAVS machines could play cdg discs as well. So yes it was quite easy for anyone (or store) to preload those with anything since it could take the disc and drop it to it's own hard drive. Just like the other jukebox type players.

Author:	mrmarog [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:03 am ]
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My first introduction into digital play was a JB99 player. It took me over a year to figure out how to get all my 1000+ cd's into that THING. The file naming process was extremely tedious, to say the least and the OS was Dr DOS. In 2000 I started and 1 year later they were finally "in there". There was a crude search feature, but your best bet was a well organized book. All songs were entered by keypad from 1 to 99999. The play was quick to come up but it had a "refresh" problem when switching pages of lyrics (such the way SC does them). Overall I liked the unit for simplicity of use, but the refresh problem was it's biggest flaw. Like Lon stated the JB99 would play cd's as well and it was real easy to program the next 10 or more singers songs, wether it was from the hard drive or cd..

Author:	Lonman [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:34 am ]
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The Lone Ranger wrote: Lonman wrote: The CAVS machines could play cdg discs as well. So yes it was quite easy for anyone (or store) to preload those with anything since it could take the disc and drop it to it's own hard drive. Just like the other jukebox type players. It could play the disc but not in proper sync Lonman, that is why I took my SCDG and converted them back to single disc format. I still have an old CAVS machine I never use. That isn't what you said. You said it couldn't play SC music. It could - you could even import the SC tracks to the hard drive. NONE of it was in sync - didn't matter the manu, it just couldn't sync graphics - period.

Author:	Lonman [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:58 am ]
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Again doesn't matter to me. I don't want a unit like that. I have my computer & software & like what it does. More than enough storage & easily upgradeable if I need more. I have other little bells & whistles built in those units can't even compare to. But yes for a host that isn't computer savvy, it could be a nice option.

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Author:	dave [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:09 pm ]
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I really would like to see more comments on that (jukebox style) We went from 6-pack players-to homemade compilations(from legal disks) in carousels--than to sd card readers.Our numbers match ftom one to the other.I will never go computer untill it is that simple.It really makes the average pirate with their stolen hardrives jaw drop when they see a system that simple and no computer.